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Is this toning worth the premium?

Spartcom5Spartcom5 Posts: 399 ✭✭✭
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They want $115 for this 1885 O MS62. I was curious if you guys thought this was way too much premium for the toning? I mean the toning is very nice IMO but $70 premium? Not sure! The reverse is blast white btw.


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  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,772 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass..

  • rln_14rln_14 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭✭

    yes, pass

  • BlindedByEgoBlindedByEgo Posts: 10,754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not a buyer for any premium - in fact, unattractive toning at that grade is a negative to me.

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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭

    ...puff puff...pass...........puff puff puff puff...what a second, I passed it to myself...puff puff puff passout ;)

  • CoinCrazyPACoinCrazyPA Posts: 2,899 ✭✭✭✭

    Pass,

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  • mannie graymannie gray Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I kind of like it but not at that price.

  • divecchiadivecchia Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would not even buy it at a discount, but then I'm not a fan of tarnish.

    Pass for me.

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  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice, but I'll pass !!! :)

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  • callawayc7callawayc7 Posts: 303 ✭✭✭

    Too dark for me. I would pass also.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ugly dark toning. Sell it to CAC. :s

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  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would pass.

  • MercuryBen1MercuryBen1 Posts: 72 ✭✭✭

    I'll be the contrarian. I believe the toning would look quite nice with better lighting and photography. The premium is still way too high though.

  • batumibatumi Posts: 841 ✭✭✭✭

    I won't pay a premium for toned coins-especially common dates-unless I see the coin in hand. I do like nice color, though the OP's coin is not attrative to me. jmo

  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,375 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Horrible coin.

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Well if that toning adds $70... Then the rim bump @ 9 o'clock subtracts $71 ;)

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  • david3142david3142 Posts: 3,584 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think the color is ok, but opinion could easily be positive or negative. I would value the coin around $50-$60.

  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass.... no premium for tarnish.... you could do it yourself and save money. ;) Cheers, RickO

  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,518 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The rim dings don't work for me. The toning may be unattractive due to the lighting. Pass overall.

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,614 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the green sticker is some if the premium, but if you are not interested why don't you just pass - there are billions of coins I am not interested in....

  • CameonutCameonut Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,685 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Huge pass. I don't how the coin even got a grade. If you look above the "M" in the word "UNUM", you will see a flat spot that looks suspiciously like a filed rim to me. In the old days that resulted in an instant “no grade” or body bag.

    As for the toning, it is too dark and unattractive.

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,136 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    Huge pass. I don't how the coin even got a grade. If you look above the "M" in the word "UNUM", you will see a flat spot that looks suspiciously like a filed rim to me. In the old days that resulted in an instant “no grade” or body bag.

    As for the toning, it is too dark and unattractive.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,599 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass. Poor eye-appeal.

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  • DollarAfterDollarDollarAfterDollar Posts: 3,215 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I can see where it takes a $35 dollar coin up to $50 for some. It's not beautiful, but it isn't plain white either.

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  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,777 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That's non-premium toning and then some. Some Ebay sellers would call this monster toning, with "L@@K!!!" in the title.

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  • BustyPotatoBustyPotato Posts: 81 ✭✭✭

    Those rim bumps on the sides should probably negate any premium for the toning, in my opinion.

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  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seems like he(or someone) has a lot "invested" in that coin with grading and CAC submission costs.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 16,257 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would be a real find at normal price, but not at that premium. Plus the rims are a distraction.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No premium deserved IMHO

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,236 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For my taste, the toning is neutral, but I don't like the coin. If you like the coin and like the toning, then you have to determine if you care that the sampling of the marketplace here would place no premium on it.

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  • brg5658brg5658 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hard pass...

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  • ColonialcoinColonialcoin Posts: 726 ✭✭✭✭

    The fact that you are asking the question tells me that you already know the answer. It is a very common coin in very common grade with unattractive toning. Pass, pass, pass. Just because a coin has a CAC sticker doesn’t mean much to me, nor should it to you. I have to like the coin. Someone else does not have to like the coin for me. I am sure that with patience you can find one of this date that will really appeal to you. Take your time and don’t rush it.

  • bolivarshagnastybolivarshagnasty Posts: 7,352 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lower graded toned Morgans can be difficult to move. Buy 64 up and you'll thank me when you sell one day.

  • goldengolden Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As they say in Texas... El Paso!

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,516 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Cool.... a place for ugly toning.

  • abcde12345abcde12345 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yabut if that there was an ms65 you'd all be singing a different song, fo shure.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 29,070 ✭✭✭✭✭

    pass

  • BullsitterBullsitter Posts: 5,837 ✭✭✭✭✭

    El Passo

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BillJones said:
    Huge pass. I don't how the coin even got a grade. If you look above the "M" in the word "UNUM", you will see a flat spot that looks suspiciously like a filed rim to me. In the old days that resulted in an instant “no grade” or body bag.

    As for the toning, it is too dark and unattractive.

    But it has a sticker... >:)o:):D

  • JcldJcld Posts: 449 ✭✭✭

    For me I would pass, but I don't collect toned Morgans, so the toning doesn't really sway me. I have been known to pay more for a coin that I had been hunting, and really liked, so if this one fills a hole for you in a collection or you find it attractive then it may be a buy for you. I don't find the toning attractive to buy it at all.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 35,815 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you have to ask, the answer (for you) is "no".

    If you love that toning, you would already have jumped on the coin.

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,042 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t find the toning on this piece attractive in any way. No, no.

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