1872 10 piece proof set (All coins now numeric graded slabs, grades on last page)

michiganboy · April 14, 2012 1:14PM

Worked a deal on part trade and cash and now just have to go see them, also got price down a few grand below auction start price.

AnkurJ · April 14, 2012 1:16PM

Thats a lot of dough for raw coins.

michiganboy · April 14, 2012 1:24PM

I like to gamble myself and buy most of my coins raw. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, not trying to make a living of coins myself I buy for the pleasure of ownership.

MrEureka · April 14, 2012 1:29PM

Thats a lot of dough for raw coins.

Would it be "a lot of dough" if they were slabbed?

CircOnly · April 14, 2012 1:37PM

<< Thats a lot of dough for raw coins. >>

Luckily for you, it's not in NGC slabs....

AnkurJ · April 14, 2012 1:49PM

<< Thats a lot of dough for raw coins.

Would it be "a lot of dough" if they were slabbed? >>

It still would be a lot of dough, but it would be much easier to buy as there would be less risk involved.

Broadstruck · April 14, 2012 1:54PM

Seller has no coin selling history (leather goods) yet is confident enough to state all are proof 63-65 but allows no return for refund

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michiganboy · April 14, 2012 2:17PM

<< Seller has no coin selling history (leather goods) yet is confident enough to state all are proof 63-65 but allows no return for refund

>>

Yeah I went through a few pages of his feedback too no coins, but looks like a various assortment of stuff not just a few bolo ties. One thing I noticed about people who just turn up selling a coin once out of the blue is either its a high jacked account or sometimes its a really nice coin from an old time collection.

Broadstruck · April 14, 2012 2:24PM

<< or sometimes its a really nice coin from an old time collection. >>

For what it's worth not every old time collection is really nice coins

Justlooking · April 14, 2012 2:32PM

He does say returns are accepted. There will be a wax seal on the screws to prevent tampering.

Interesting ...

MsMorrisine · April 14, 2012 2:48PM

is it common for Capitol Plastics to spell bronze "BRQNZE?"

and I don't think wax will stay on metal screws in transit to the buyer.

bestclser1 · April 14, 2012 4:10PM

Dont look PR 63 or higher to me,JMHO!

stealer · April 14, 2012 4:15PM

<< is it common for Capitol Plastics to spell bronze "BRQNZE?"

and I don't think wax will stay on metal screws in transit to the buyer. >>

I didn't notice that until you pointed it out.

I wouldn't gamble on that set...I'd just buy a really nice proof of the same date graded.

fivecents · April 14, 2012 10:31PM

Why wouldn't he just pay to have them all slabbed?

The shield nickel and three cent nickel don't have the same patina as the rest of the set.

roadrunner · April 15, 2012 12:00AM

How many different ways can you spell BURIAL?

Those coins have lived a tuff life. Look at the rubbing on the reverse of the seated quarter and half! PF58?
The lighter toned spots on the central obverse of the dollar, half, and quarter seem to be missing patina....or even metal. Most of the coins show this feature.

They might be worth half or less of what the seller is asking. And if in holders.....they wouldn't be worth any more money.

You'd be better off sending a $5,000 check to your favorite charity. You'd feel good about your deed and get a tax break.

shorecoll · April 15, 2012 6:24AM

The coins may have been in a cabinet, but the screws in that holder are not original...why would they change those if it had been together all that time?

reddwing · April 15, 2012 7:16AM

I'd be very careful about this set. It seems like quite a bit of wear on these puppies and another good reason to go with a slabbed (PCGS) perspective.

BillJones · April 15, 2012 7:21AM

I don't know how anyone could bid intelligently on a set of Proof coins from those pictures. In my dealer days I bought raw coins a number of times and had them slabbed. Even if they didn’t work for some reason I made sure that I kept the price at an “exit strategy” level. Now that I don’t have shows as a sales outlet, I’ve got to be more careful. Maybe if I saw these coins in person I’d get involved, but not like this.

DIMEMAN · April 15, 2012 7:32AM

Run Forrest Run!!

michiganboy · April 18, 2012 9:08AM

Well I made a part cash part trade deal with this guy and am waiting for a call to set up a time to look at these and make a deal. I know a lot of people said its to much and not without looking at them well I worked on both of these aspects and am hoping for a good result. Wish me luck. I will post my own pictures if I end up with these coins.

OPA · April 18, 2012 9:38AM

<< Well I made a part cash part trade deal with this guy and am waiting for a call to set up a time to look at these and make a deal. I know a lot of people said its to much and not without looking at them well I worked on both of these aspects and am hoping for a good result. Wish me luck. I will post my own pictures if I end up with these coins. >>

Wishful thinking and a waste of time on your part.

crypto79 · April 18, 2012 9:41AM

You know what, while I respect a few of the previous opinions that were given I am going out on a limb and say you should be happy. It is a lot of money but it looks like a original unprocessed set to my eyes and even if they grade all in the 63 range with no home runs you simply cant go out and buy an unprocessed set like that anymore for any amount. If they are all/the big ones prove gradable and you get them into plastic and give it a year and walk into a show you will be the bell of the ball. They look original and age appropriate and the set people are talking about getting for the money would be dealer circular stuff that doesn't look right. The holder alone is a tip you are headed for an old timers treasure. Good luck and let us know.... Life favors the bold

crypto79 · April 18, 2012 9:49AM

<< Why wouldn't he just pay to have them all slabbed?

The shield nickel and three cent nickel don't have the same patina as the rest of the set. >>

Why would they they are copper nickel?

Bochiman · April 18, 2012 9:54AM

<< Well I made a part cash part trade deal with this guy and am waiting for a call to set up a time to look at these and make a deal. I know a lot of people said its to much and not without looking at them well I worked on both of these aspects and am hoping for a good result. Wish me luck. I will post my own pictures if I end up with these coins. >>

So, you get to look at them before you pull the plug? I hope.
Good luck!

Pokermandude · April 18, 2012 9:58AM

If the deal goes through, I hope it ends up only being a lot of dough... with very little "d'oh".

michiganboy · April 18, 2012 9:59AM

Thanks Crypto, I actually looked up the guy who owns them and he's 60 years old and he told me he bought them from a family that had them for 50 years and he's had them for 20 and if they don't look right well home i'll come empty handed. I think this is gonna pan out for me and haters are gonna hate. They look original to my eyes to and I don't wear glasses and can read any line the DMV wants me to no problem.

darktone · April 18, 2012 10:03AM

Looks like it has potential to me. What the heck if you can view them in person and you know what your looking at there is no down side. Hope they are all super coins.

abitofthisabitofthat · April 18, 2012 10:13AM

<< Thanks Crypto, I actually looked up the guy who owns them and he's 60 years old and he told me he bought them from a family that had them for 50 years and he's had them for 20 and if they don't look right well home i'll come empty handed. I think this is gonna pan out for me and haters are gonna hate. They look original to my eyes to and I don't wear glasses and can read any line the DMV wants me to no problem. >>

So, he is not a coin dealer, but is taking coins in trade? Another red flag to me.

Based upon the best close up pics, I see AU coins. Even if they are proofs (maybe, maybe not) impaired proofs are a very hard sell. I really don't think that the relevant eye sight test is a DMV line. Have you bought, and then graded, hundreds or thousands of coins? If you bought raw proofs lately, did they grade the way you expected? I seem to recall another thread...

By the way - nice icon... Is that your coin?

michiganboy · April 18, 2012 10:17AM

By the way - nice icon... Is that your coin? >>

Nope found it right on top of the ones to choose. Is it your coin?

I'm not gonna buy these if I see any hairlines and yes I have plenty of luck picking out raw 19th century proofs.

edited to add no he's not taking coins he's taking bullion and cash and it was not an easy negotiation by any means.

michiganboy · April 18, 2012 10:24AM

Also if my last one graded au58 I doubt these will grade less then ms60 from the pictures to me they look a lot better then the one I justt got graded.

abitofthisabitofthat · April 18, 2012 10:26AM

<< By the way - nice icon... Is that your coin? >>

Nope found it right on top of the ones to choose. Is it your coin?

I'm not gonna buy these if I see any hairlines and yes I have plenty of luck picking out raw 19th century proofs.

edited to add no he's not taking coins he's taking bullion and cash and it was not an easy negotiation by any means. >>

Hairlines? Take another look at the dollar. It appears to have pretty obvious and significant wear on the high points of MS Liberty and even the shield. Possibly the same on the half, although it is harder to tell from the pics.

michiganboy · April 18, 2012 10:31AM

Hairlines? Take another look at the dollar. It appears to have pretty obvious and significant wear on the high points of MS Liberty and even the shield. Possibly the same on the half, although it is harder to tell from the pics. >>

Thats why I negotiated a deal, so I can view them in person as well I got my loupe in my pocket and am getting antsy just waiting for the call but hey lets not let me have a adventure in my life then I can go around and talk down everyones coins that are not graded just like some people, sticks in the mud I tell ya.

lasvegasteddy · April 18, 2012 11:57AM

best luck there michigan...sincerely and let us know the details...hopefully if your gut say's yup...you get some sweet grades too..

ChrisRx · April 18, 2012 11:59AM

"Item location: Concord, CA, United States"

Thats only 32 miles away...

JamesMurray · April 18, 2012 12:11PM

<< He does say returns are accepted. There will be a wax seal on the screws to prevent tampering.

Interesting ... >>

It is indeed interesting , it does more than prevent tampering

michiganboy · April 18, 2012 12:14PM

<< "Item location: Concord, CA, United States"

Thats only 32 miles away... >>

Yeah and? What does that mean your gonna step on my toes?

ChrisRx · April 18, 2012 12:18PM

<< 

<< "Item location: Concord, CA, United States"

Thats only 32 miles away... >>

Yeah and? What does that mean your gonna step on my toes? >>

Absolutely not! That is ALL yours. Believe me.

michiganboy · April 18, 2012 12:22PM

<< 

<< 

<< "Item location: Concord, CA, United States"

Thats only 32 miles away... >>

Yeah and? What does that mean your gonna step on my toes? >>

Absolutely not! That is ALL yours. Believe me. >>

It just seemed like a odd statement to make, unless you wondered how close we live I guess.

Justacommeman · April 18, 2012 12:23PM

Good luck and I think you may score. You are doing all you can to put this in your favor. That is all you can do. MJ

crypto79 · April 18, 2012 12:25PM

<< 

<< "Item location: Concord, CA, United States"

Thats only 32 miles away... >>

Yeah and? What does that mean your gonna step on my toes? >>

Calm down I am sure chris was just making chat and dont worry about people here that always seam to known more until they don't. They look like coins that we're badly photographed to avoid glare/mirrors. A couple of hairlines aren't too bad with original skin just look for mirrors and rims and you'll be fine

stealer · April 18, 2012 3:46PM

<< 

<< "Item location: Concord, CA, United States"

Thats only 32 miles away... >>

Yeah and? What does that mean your gonna step on my toes? >>

Someone's feisty

In all honesty I think the silver coins in the set are going to be pretty well scrubbed albeit retoned nicely.

magikbilly · April 18, 2012 4:24PM

ah come on! I got up at 2 am for this with no link?

I am still working on the raw 19TH C Proofs bough in a "...deal on part trade and cash and now just have to go see them" from the seller with enough red flags to start...printing...red books (either kind). HOWEVER, as there has been a fat man down my chimney more than not, I wish good luck to the brave! Expect hairlines.

Best wishes,
Eric

mkman123 · April 18, 2012 5:09PM

your brave, let us know what happens

coinman23885 · April 18, 2012 5:42PM

<< Thanks Crypto, I actually looked up the guy who owns them and he's 60 years old and he told me he bought them from a family that had them for 50 years and he's had them for 20 and if they don't look right well home i'll come empty handed. I think this is gonna pan out for me and haters are gonna hate. They look original to my eyes to and I don't wear glasses and can read any line the DMV wants me to no problem. >>

Be careful about meeting him in person; they could be baiting you to rob you.

coinman23885 · April 18, 2012 5:46PM

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coinman23885 · April 18, 2012 5:46PM

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coinman23885 · April 18, 2012 5:48PM

<< I don't know how anyone could bid intelligently on a set of Proof coins from those pictures. In my dealer days I bought raw coins a number of times and had them slabbed. Even if they didn’t work for some reason I made sure that I kept the price at an “exit strategy” level. Now that I don’t have shows as a sales outlet, I’ve got to be more careful. Maybe if I saw these coins in person I’d get involved, but not like this. >>

coinman23885 · April 18, 2012 5:51PM

Here's a nice 1872 proof set if you're interested: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Proof-Set-1872-NGC-CAC-Proof-64-66-10-coins-Color-Proof-Mint-Sets-/170819880187?pt=Coins_US_Individual&hash=item27c5a884fb

magikbilly · April 18, 2012 6:19PM

Thanks for the link!

Looking for the update.

Best wishes,
Eric

UNLVino · April 18, 2012 11:35PM

I treat EBay like a casino, I never lay out more than I am willing to lose. High ticket like that I'd only do in person or BST and I have only had one bad EBay experience. Can't wait for results, I do want it to end with a "deal of the century" note!

1872 10 piece proof set (All coins now numeric graded slabs, grades on last page)

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