The Official 2012 Topps Heritage thread

TNP777 · March 15, 2012 2:39PM

some SSP pictures

#29

#54

#15 Darwin Barney (missing position on front)

#113

#231

#341 black letters

#380 Carlos Pena (need picture still)

#454

#483 Stanton (need pictures)

Walt · March 15, 2012 2:47PM

<< Kevin/Jim,

I agree with you guys. If the Mays is short printed, $325 will be a steal for that card. Do you think Mays will have a red ink or will it be like the Koufax of 2011 with a blue ink only? >>

If Koufax and Mays had regular print runs we would of seen a lot more by now.

parker95 · March 15, 2012 10:39PM

Been to a Heritage ripping party and busy sorting. I should have a list of my hits soon!

The Heritage preview of the Koufax red auto was numbered to 10 instead of 63. I seriously doubt that Mays, Koufax, and Aaron blue autos have a 200 print run.

Craig from Texas

gopokes99 · March 15, 2012 11:10PM

I started my hobby case last night, and decided to see if there were any blasters at Wal-Mart. Here's my question: Does Target and Wal-Mart get blasters that have their respective short prints in it? The Wal-Mart I went to had 8 blasters, but the odds on the back made no mention of the blue borders. The rack packs above these had the blue borders listed odds at 1:4. I went with 12 rack packs instead of 3 blasters since they had the odds listed. Anyone know if the sealed blaster boxes should have been exclusive too?

magellan · March 16, 2012 2:23AM

The Walmart blasters definitely have blue borders.......the packs themselves say it but not the box.

Bubba is a very good choice Nick & Bubba !

Thanks for the variation pics Geordie. I have the #54 if you need the scan I posted it Monday night.

My case arrives today but "signature required" I'm going to be out later this afternoon, sure hope it gets here prior to that.

Griffins · March 16, 2012 4:05AM

My case just walked in the door! Got a pile of work I need to do first, but I have a feeling I'll stagger that with a box rip here and there

TNP777 · March 16, 2012 4:15AM

good luck, Anthony!

stormsurge · March 16, 2012 4:16AM

Good luck Griffins!

aconte · March 16, 2012 4:17AM

Hello.

Thought I was going to buy some boxes but the store was out already and decided I will just pick up Phillies.

I'm looking for two Heritage Phillies team sets with or without SP's. It does not matter. Would like in nm/mt or better shape.

Would also like to get leader card #'s 1, 5, 7, and 9. NAP Lee and Halladay. Then and Now - Lee/Spahn and the two Image reversal cards of Lee and Halladay.

If someone has all or most let me know what you want for the group. If not bites in a few days, I will go the ebay route.

Thank you,

Tony (aconte)

Any other Phillie not mentioned I might be interested in too....

Mick65 · March 16, 2012 4:24AM

Has anyone figured out what it cost (approximately) to get one of every card on the current checklist?

All the duel autos, clubhouse collections, black refractors.....etc

I guess you would exclude the the cut signatures and the buybacks.

I am looking at everything in this product....I'm not good with all the pricing and / or values but I wonder what the value of that set would be.

And that would be just for one year of Heritage...I would imagine that it would take a while, months or years.

$10K (?)

Walt · March 16, 2012 4:27AM

<< Has anyone figured out what it cost (approximately) to get one of every card on the current checklist?

All the duel autos, clubhouse collections, black refractors.....etc

I guess you would exclude the the cut signatures and the buybacks.

I am looking at everything in this product....I'm not good with all the pricing and / or values but I wonder what the value of that set would be.

And that would be just for one year of Heritage...I would imagine that it would take a while, months or years.

$10K (?) >>

If you could wait a while you might be able to do it for under 10K. The expensive cards will be the autographed dual patches and the three big autographs, which right
now look like big short prints. Here is a good place to be for starters!

bjbrall4 · March 16, 2012 4:27AM

Finally sorted my hobby case (NO AUTO, two black ref, two coins, two JFK, seven image variation, one color variation) and hope to trade for a master set:

High numbers I need: 429, 434, 436, 460, 475, 484, 488, 490, 493, 499;
High numbers to trade: 427(2), 428(2), 432, 433(2), 435(2), 437, 440(4), 443, 444(2), 445, 448, 449, 450(2), 451, 452, 454(4)(no ssp), 456, 457(2), 458, 462, 465, 467(2), 468, 471, 472, 473, 474, 478(2), 479, 480, 482, 483(2), 486(2), 492, 494(2), 496(2).

TAN need: TN-JM Marichal;
TAN I have to trade: KB (2), MB, YC (SIX!), KK(2), KV(4), MS(3), AB, SL.

BBFB I need: none;
BBFB to trade: AK (2), EW, EB(5), HA(5), JM(2), SK(3), SK, WM, SM(2).

NFB I need: MK
NFB to trade: A, JK(4), JKE(4), MKI, PS, PP(3), UA(2), UC(2), VT.

NAP I need: Jeter, Weaver, Bautista;
NAP to trade: Pujols(2), Lee(2), Votto, Beckett(2), Kemp, Cabrera(2), Cano, Halladay, Braun.

Stickers I need: 1, 5, 11, 13, 21, 28, 33, 35, 38, 40, 41, 43;
Stickers to trade: 14, 17, 22(2), 31, 37, 42, 45(2), 46.

Thanks for looking.

Mick65 · March 16, 2012 5:02AM

I wasn't considering doing it, just didn't know if anyone does.

I guess if I own a card shop and access to wholesale pricing...it would be fun.

But for $700 a case you can't even get a "master set" together (not even the basic subsets), it seems like a long shot (they added a lot variations)....maybe something to think about for '65 or '67 set.

Mick65 · March 16, 2012 5:15AM

I mean are Image Swap relic variations necessary?

The coins and the stamps and JFKs,.... I mean there are seven sub groups of autographed cards, do they do focus groups and test markets on this stuff

Edited to include.................but they're still the only thing I enjoy collecting....

cone10 · March 16, 2012 5:45AM

So how many sets 1-425 can you get from a case? Since the cards are a little thicker, what size box do you use for the base set 1-425?

I busted 5 blasters from Walmart, my best pull JFK: A Profile In Courage.

Mick65 · March 16, 2012 6:07AM

<< So how many sets 1-425 can you get from a case? Since the cards are a little thicker, what size box do you use for the base set 1-425?

I busted 5 blasters from Walmart, my best pull JFK: A Profile In Courage. >>

I can't see more than one full base set. But I'm not the expert on that.

The autos are being pulled with some frequency in the retail, so I'm disappointed that the case didn't have any.

magellan · March 16, 2012 6:11AM

hobby.case.received, rippage.commencing

zep33 · March 16, 2012 6:18AM

Good luck!!!

parkerj · March 16, 2012 6:20AM

Good luck Dave!

You'll get about 3 or more base sets from a case. Should get a full "mini master" set from a case

Mini master being. 1-500 nap, t&n, fb, news. No stickers JFK or variations

Heritage cards fill boxes at about 70% of the stated capacity

So 660 ct holds around 450 cards

TNP777 · March 16, 2012 6:27AM

good luck, Dave!

Jim, I haven't ever seen a full "mini-master" set from a case. Now, if you're talking about it being complete after trades, then yes. But right after ripping? I don't think it's possible - the collation has always stunk.

fur72 · March 16, 2012 6:33AM

<< hobby.case.received, rippage.commencing

>>

Good luck Dave, I see a Mays auto in your future.

Walt · March 16, 2012 6:34AM

Got this today. Maybe my best pull this year!

magellan · March 16, 2012 6:36AM

Thanks for the well wishes guys,
1st box:
8 SP
1 ref, D. Espinosa
2 chrome
2 NAP
2 TN
2 BBF
2 NF
3 stickers
1 CC, Texieria

so-so

magellan · March 16, 2012 6:42AM

<< Got this today. Maybe my best pull this year!

>>

I hope not Walt. I didn't get a box topper in the 1st box, is that normal? Last year pretty sure I got someyhing in every box.

TNP777 · March 16, 2012 7:02AM

<< I hope not Walt. I didn't get a box topper in the 1st box, is that normal? Last year pretty sure I got someyhing in every box. >>

Buyback or ad panel in every box, right? Six of each per case?

magellan · March 16, 2012 7:05AM

2nd Box:
1 ad panel
8 SP
3 chromes
3 stickers
1 CC-Carlos Gonzalez
1 NAP
2 TN
2 BBF
2NF
1 image swap-Lincecum

In both boxes, the checklist cards have been in every pack-5th row down, the chromes, refractors in every pack 6th row down, the stickers in every pack bottom row.
No idea if there are any color swaps until sorting.
Dog break time

magellan · March 16, 2012 7:09AM

Were baseball bucks boxtoppers too or were they in packs? Anyway I figure Topps owes me a buyback.

prthd · March 16, 2012 7:30AM

Im sure I missed it somewhere in this thread but what autos are available in the retail boxes? Relic autos, red autos etc?
thanks

zep33 · March 16, 2012 7:53AM

the baseball bucks were boxtoppers too

fur72 · March 16, 2012 7:54AM

Two final boxes for the year (hopefully) from Blowout in hand, rippage coming.

magellan · March 16, 2012 8:00AM

Good luck Cory !!

Walt · March 16, 2012 8:01AM

Did I miss Nick's cut auto pull?

magellan · March 16, 2012 8:05AM

Box 3:
1 buyback
8 SP
3 chromes
3 stickers
1 CC- Holliday
2 NAP
1 TN
2 BBF
2 NF
1 image swap-Texieria

zep33 · March 16, 2012 8:14AM

<< Two final boxes for the year >>

lies

fur72 · March 16, 2012 8:17AM

The first box was interesting to say the least. Didnt follow any pattern of my first 3 but simular to Daves. Top row middle pack was ink, second row all three packs had a refractor.

1 Add panel Molina, Abreu, Jennings
2 Chrome
1 Chrome Refractor
3 stickers
1 NAP
2 TN
2 BBF
2 NF
1 image swap-Weaver
Kershaw auto, or I shold say cp44 auto because thats what it looks like.

zep33 · March 16, 2012 8:34AM

this guy's been signing Kershaw's autos:

fur72 · March 16, 2012 8:46AM

Ok this is kind of crazy. After I got ink in the first box just expected a relic which i got in the first row. Second row again contained the chromes. Then I pulled a blank white card.

1 Ad Panel
2 chromes
1 Chrome refractor
3 stickers
1 CC- Weeks
2 NAP
2 TN
2 BBF
2 NF
image swap-Didnt notice one.

The I pulled this, it had like a lottery ticket scratch off on the back, scratched it off and it says UGOTURHITS4DYEAR , not sure what to do with it...

ThoseBackPages · March 16, 2012 8:56AM

just got done sorting the base cards from my hobby case. was able to put two base sets sans SPs together, probably about 6 cards short of a third set.
i ranged anywhere from 2 - 9 of each base card.

Not sure if anyone but me cares, but there is a lot of snow and PD issues with the base cards, especially on the coloring. Being a "centering" guy, the surface issues were aggravating and i will have to go back and upgrade some of them at some point.

magellan · March 16, 2012 8:58AM

Box 4:
1 buyback
9 SP
1 BLK. REF.-Michael Young
1 Ref.-Braun
2 chrome
2 stickers
1 CC-Pence
1 NAP
2 TN
2BBF
2NF
1 image swap-Cliff Lee
1 coin redemption- Musial quarter

The best box to date & the patterns of the 1st 3 boxes didn't hold.

brian26 · March 16, 2012 9:41AM

<< Finally sorted my hobby case (NO AUTO, two black ref, two coins, two JFK, seven image variation, one color variation) and hope to trade for a master set:

>>

Good grief, it is scary that even with a case you weren't able to put together a master set.

brian26 · March 16, 2012 9:42AM

<< Has anyone figured out what it cost (approximately) to get one of every card on the current checklist?

All the duel autos, clubhouse collections, black refractors.....etc

I guess you would exclude the the cut signatures and the buybacks.

I am looking at everything in this product....I'm not good with all the pricing and / or values but I wonder what the value of that set would be.

And that would be just for one year of Heritage...I would imagine that it would take a while, months or years.

$10K (?) >>

I think the value of that set and the cost to put it together would be substantially different, as you'd never be able to sell it for even close to the money it would take to assemble it.

bjbrall4 · March 16, 2012 9:48AM

Good grief, it is scary that even with a case you weren't able to put together a master set.

The total: missing ten shortprints (426-500) and five inserts. I did manage two extra base sets.

zep33 · March 16, 2012 10:08AM

<< 

The I pulled this, it had like a lottery ticket scratch off on the back, scratched it off and it says UGOTURHITS4DYEAR , not sure what to do with it...

>>

LOL I like that. Got me at first.

Sportsamerica · March 16, 2012 11:00AM

Box 3 and 4 "Hits"

Chromes were:
36 - Kendrick
100 -- Rookie Stars
22 - Cabrera
78 - Refractor Beltran
44 - Scutaro

Arod Black is 61/63

magellan · March 16, 2012 11:38AM

Real nice box Cory from Jim Thorpe, PA!

parker95 · March 16, 2012 12:40PM

I am done sorting my case! Here are my hits out of a case and a couple of loose boxes:

At this time, I am ONLY trading for Heritage blue ink autos from any year as needed for my sets (no minor league please). The two autos shown are going in my collection. I just started this project a couple of months for my son who will be born in less than two months! So I still need a bunch and chances are I will need what you have. When he gets older I hope that he appreciates the collection. I hope you can help!

Here is what I have to trade:

Base: All of them available
SPs: A bunch -- just let me know who you need
Chromes: 37 different ones
Chrome Refractors: 6-29-43-44-45-74-82-88-99
Clubhouse Collection: AJ-DO-DPR-EL-IK-IK-JB-JR-JS-MB-MCA-NC-SC-YG
Image Swaps: 52-183-193-200-200-289-468-476-481-483-483-486-497
Black Chrome Refractor: #57 Jeremy Hellickson 18/63
Image Swap Relic: #ISR-TT Troy Tulowitzki 01/63
Image Swap Relic: #ISR-MS Mike Stanton 26/63
Flashback Relic: FR-HA Hank Aaron
The JFK Story: #JFK4 Jack and Jackie
'63 Mint Quarter: #63JM Juan Marichal
Color Swap: #277 David Price

Just send me a PM with a fair trade offer.

Thank you for considering a trade with me.

Craig from Texas

fur72 · March 16, 2012 12:41PM

Indeed Cory, 4 hits, very nice. Black A-Rod is rockstar.

ChasHawk · March 16, 2012 1:19PM

Great stuff guys!

Still looking for Nicholson buybacks!!

Walt · March 16, 2012 1:33PM

ok I just went to confirm again that retail packs suck. You can thank me later. Carry on.

Waalt

matthewbschultz83 · March 16, 2012 1:50PM

4 hobby boxes....here comes some late rippage!

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