<< <i>WIhtout taking sides, like me ask this.... For those saying that the seller is in the right, what about the buyer? If the buyer is being 100% honest on this (and no reason to think she isn't), why should she be out the $36? If the post office mistakenly did something and marked it as delivered, what makes the seller in the right (keeps the money) and the buyer in the wrong (out the money and the coin)? >>
Her beef is with her post office mailman. Post Office says delivered, she says not. Seller met his obligation. >>
Anyone who thinks the sellers responsibility ends when he drops it off at the post office is gonna end up disagreeing with me. So there. --jerry
<< <i>As this thread will not die, I did a google search. Images were available. This is a single family residence, built in the 1950's. No shared mailbox I would think. Appears to have a mail slot in the front door.
And if you checked feedback given, it seems she very recently had this problem before (December) and damaged another seller. But he was a "cooperative" seller, and only got a neutral. >>
Wolf based on your feedback I think we all agree you are an honest person but we also all see you are very stubborn. Some members have posted some good feedback that you have either ignored or just chosen not to reply.
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"I understand your frustration. In order for both of us to be covered and in order for the eBay system to work properly I need you to file a dispute with eBay so that the dispute resolution process properly runs its course through eBay."
You followed all the rules up to that point.
But, getting the case into eBay Dispute Resolution shifts the responsibility of solving the dispute over to eBay.
You almost certainly would have won the case and in certain circumstances eBay will eat the loss and cover the loss for either party. >>
<< <i>As this thread will not die, I did a google search. Images were available. This is a single family residence, built in the 1950's. No shared mailbox I would think. Appears to have a mail slot in the front door.
And if you checked feedback given, it seems she very recently had this problem before (December) and damaged another seller. But he was a "cooperative" seller, and only got a neutral. >>
Wolf based on your feedback I think we all agree you are an honest person but we also all see you are very stubborn. Some members have posted some good feedback that you have either ignored or just chosen not to reply. >>
Thank you, but you and others misunderstand. Where did I ask for anyone's advice? This thread is a warning about a problem buyer. Take it or leave it.
Now, to you all reading the thread. Stop baiting me to reply, stop making false accusations, and grow up and get a life. It's a simple eBay issue, and it's over and done.
<< <i>Thank you, but you and others misunderstand. Where did I ask for anyone's advice? This thread is a warning about a problem buyer. Take it or leave it.
Now, to you all reading the thread. Stop baiting me to reply, stop making false accusations, and grow up and get a life. It's a simple eBay issue, and it's over and done. >>
You see, when you choose to air your grievances on an internet forum that has thousands of members, you really don't get to control when the discussion ends.
<< <i>As this thread will not die, I did a google search. Images were available. This is a single family residence, built in the 1950's. No shared mailbox I would think. Appears to have a mail slot in the front door.
And if you checked feedback given, it seems she very recently had this problem before (December) and damaged another seller. But he was a "cooperative" seller, and only got a neutral. >>
Wolf based on your feedback I think we all agree you are an honest person but we also all see you are very stubborn. Some members have posted some good feedback that you have either ignored or just chosen not to reply. >>
Thank you, but you and others misunderstand. Where did I ask for anyone's advice? This thread is a warning about a problem buyer. Take it or leave it.
Now, to you all reading the thread. Stop baiting me to reply, stop making false accusations, and grow up and get a life. It's a simple eBay issue, and it's over and done. >>
I don't know about the "baiting"...but I do hope you can settle down and relax soon. It is very apparent that you are riled up and that is affecting you. It's also very apparent that not everyone agreed with you and that upset you.
I don't know about the "baiting"...but I do hope you can settle down and relax soon. It is very apparent that you are riled up and that is affecting you. It's also very apparent that not everyone agreed with you and that upset you. >>
Indeed, not good for your health.
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I don't know about the "baiting"...but I do hope you can settle down and relax soon. It is very apparent that you are riled up and that is affecting you. It's also very apparent that not everyone agreed with you and that upset you. >>
Indeed, not good for your health. >>
I agree, it is very bad for his health, feel sorry for him. Can't help to add some. LOL.
<< <i>As this thread will not die, I did a google search. Images were available. This is a single family residence, built in the 1950's. No shared mailbox I would think. Appears to have a mail slot in the front door.
And if you checked feedback given, it seems she very recently had this problem before (December) and damaged another seller. But he was a "cooperative" seller, and only got a neutral. >>
Wolf based on your feedback I think we all agree you are an honest person but we also all see you are very stubborn. Some members have posted some good feedback that you have either ignored or just chosen not to reply. >>
Thank you, but you and others misunderstand. Where did I ask for anyone's advice? This thread is a warning about a problem buyer. Take it or leave it.
Now, to you all reading the thread. Stop baiting me to reply, stop making false accusations, and grow up and get a life. It's a simple eBay issue, and it's over and done. >>
Sorry man, but you published this on an internet forum, so it is not over until we say it's over.
Next time, post on a personal blog where you get to control or limit the conversation.
<< <i>Anyone who thinks the sellers responsibility ends when he drops it off at the post office is gonna end up disagreeing with me. So there. --jerry >>
As a seller, I wouldn't say my responsibility ends when I drop something off at the post offce. On the other hand, if the post office shows a package as delivered, I would figure my responsibility to include cooperating with the buyer in contacting the post office to see what might have happened to it, and any refund would be predicated on the insurer covering the loss.
Everybody has to make up their own minds, but I'm not necessarily refunding for a "lost" package that the post office says they delivered without more evidence that it wasn't received than just the buyer's say-so. Sorry about that, but there are (IMO) too many scammers on the buying side on eBay, too.
<< <i>I cannot help but think that the tone of your replies contributed to the neg.
"Don't contact me further." ???
How about: "I will check with the post office and get back to you"
or
"I will check with ebay and get back to you"
Maybe there is no possible resolution, no happy ending, but the guy clearly communicated that he did not get the coin and wants to be made whole. I cannot blame him, and after "Don't contact me further.", I would have also left a neg. >>
seems fair to me, the seller has delivery confirmation, i say refund the buyers money, and send him a few more coins as well. should ask if you can send him a case of his favorite beer
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
offer to clean his house (trailer) as well, may as well fix the washer and do some laundry too. who knows maybe his ol lady aint bad lookin, she may need help with a few things too.
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
Hi I won a 1964 Kennedy sample slab back in November, I have sent the seller a dozen or more emails, he just wount replay. I have never had this problem it the 7 years on EBay. That is when I learned that after 45 days nothing can be done. My emails were polite as possible and he finally answered one, said he would look into it never heard back.
I am out the coin and the money, lesson learned. Maybe If I was rude to him he would have done something, I will never know. He is still selling I phoned EBay they said all they could was send a email after the 45 days, and still nothing. You see some times we really don't get the coin. just a though Alan
why would you wait 45 days to email the seller ?? two weeks is plenty for something to arrive, except when paid for with an E check, and actually, you have 90 days to give him a neg. and if you paid with paypal i believe you have 60 days to file a dispute, 45 through ebay but 60 through paypal, but again, why the wait ?
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
and if you paid with a credit card through ebay you can ask for a chargeback for up to up six months after you get the coin (maybe more) and paypal will gladly agree to that chargeback. of course there is no way for a seller to opt out of any of this "seller protection"
regardless of how many posts I have, I don't consider myself an "expert" at anything
<< <i>I won a 1964 Kennedy sample slab back in November, I have sent the seller a dozen or more emails, he just wount replay. I have never had this problem it the 7 years on EBay. That is when I learned that after 45 days nothing can be done. My emails were polite as possible and he finally answered one, said he would look into it never heard back. >>
If you used a credit card through PayPal, you can still likely file a chargeback through your CC company. What does the tracking info for the coin say?
It's laughable that some here imply that they include signature confirmation regardless of value. The reality is that 99.X% of auctions under $50 are sent with delivery confirmation and/or insurance and that's it. He77 if you want to be all high and mighty why not ridicule the seller for not sending $36 parcels via registered mail on his dime ?
The reality as we know it is that the buyer has recent history of the same "non-receipt" story according to the OP. I don't know about you guys, but since the mid 90's I have had only 2 packages that seemed to be legitimately lost in the mail out of thousdands. Having said that though it's clear the OP could certainly use a dose of patience and a bit of empathy. After all even if the buyer is trying something shady you have to give them the benefit of the doubt at first. I would never tell someone to not contact me again until I had exhausted all other avenues. That should be your 20th e-mail to the buyer, not the 3rd or 4th.
<< <i>It's laughable that some here imply that they include signature confirmation regardless of value. The reality is that 99.X% of auctions under $50 are sent with delivery confirmation and/or insurance and that's it. He77 if you want to be all high and mighty why not ridicule the seller for not sending $36 parcels via registered mail on his dime ?
The reality as we know it is that the buyer has recent history of the same "non-receipt" story according to the OP. I don't know about you guys, but since the mid 90's I have had only 2 packages that seemed to be legitimately lost in the mail out of thousdands. Having said that though it's clear the OP could certainly use a dose of patience and a bit of empathy. After all even if the buyer is trying something shady you have to give them the benefit of the doubt at first. I would never tell someone to not contact me again until I had exhausted all other avenues. That should be your 20th e-mail to the buyer, not the 3rd or 4th. >>
Sadly, I see this all the time. A buyer will call up and want to exchange something. I say sure. I pay postage if it is my fault but if they just want an excahange on their own initiative I let them pay for it. Many time I'll receive at $20 coin in a priority mail box with signature confirmation--about $8.
<< <i>It might have been delivered to the wrong address. If I recall correctly, DC works by having the delivery employee scan the package at some point during the delivery process. It would be nice if all such scans were done at the moment the item was placed in the correct box, but from time to time items have been known to be delivered to the incorrect address yet they show up as delivered because they were scanned. >>
Right you are. Now my mailbox is a " scan " point. I can't tell you how many times this very same scenario occurred with shipments to me from auction firms. >>
This has happened to me as well...went to the post office, told them tracking showed a package being delivered to me that I did not receive, post office said they couldn't find it. next day the package is in my mail box so I believe the buyer was probably telling the truth but it is difficult for the seller to issue a refund on a coin that says it's been delivered...quite the pickle
i gotta say this has happened to me i had a gold $5 indian with conf showing delivered to me but im positive it was put in a neighbors mail this is why i put ins of 201 so they must sign for it if its very expensive
Similar thing happened to me with a GPS unit I shipped to the buyer USPS with signature confirmation. Long story short, with a number of calls to their local post office, the PO manager and I we were able to determine the mailman dropped it off with their neighbor and then the mailman signed the confirmation. And the neighbor had forgotten to give the buyer the package.
Taking a man at his word is essential. There were several ways that this could have been handled more diplomatically which would have likely avoided a negative.
And now mysteriously, the buyer has "lost" a third coin in the mail. Left a positive for the seller after leaving a neutral and a negative for me (I refused to refund her). This is a scam, as I warned you about.
<< <i>Correct response would have been: "I understand your frustration. In order for both of us to be covered and in order for the eBay system to work properly I need you to file a dispute with eBay so that the dispute resolution process properly runs its course through eBay." >>
<< <i>And now mysteriously, the buyer has "lost" a third coin in the mail. Left a positive for the seller after leaving a neutral and a negative for me (I refused to refund her). This is a scam, as I warned you about.
that is the exact reason i got out of the low-dollar sales via snail mail. not cost effective for tracking and no way to know for sure when something is lost if it is indeed lost or if the buyer just states it has been lost.
would be really sweet if a $0.25 tracking option could be implemented for all letter sized items under 2oz, or maybe even 1oz.
i'd probably triple my profits and sell thousands more items
I would call ebay. They will most likely remove the neg feedback since your tracking will show them a different outcome than the one claimed in the negative feedback.
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<< <i>I cannot help but think that the tone of your replies contributed to the neg.
"Don't contact me further." ???
How about: "I will check with the post office and get back to you"
or
"I will check with ebay and get back to you"
Maybe there is no possible resolution, no happy ending, but the guy clearly communicated that he did not get the coin and wants to be made whole. I cannot blame him, and after "Don't contact me further.", I would have also left a neg. >>
I agree, although I might have considered a neutral rather than a negative.
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<< <i>And now mysteriously, the buyer has "lost" a third coin in the mail. Left a positive for the seller after leaving a neutral and a negative for me (I refused to refund her). This is a scam, as I warned you about.
<< <i>And now mysteriously, the buyer has "lost" a third coin in the mail. Left a positive for the seller after leaving a neutral and a negative for me (I refused to refund her). This is a scam, as I warned you about.
Regardless of what the problem might be, to have avoided the neg Wolf could have worked with the buyer beyond the "Don't email me again." point. As it was, he left the buyer high and dry and now believes that it was the buyers fault he received his well deserved neg.
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Clearly a scam. No one has 3 coins lost in the mail like that. He just extorts an occassional free coin and the OP didnt feel like playing. I also notice though that the OP has collected another Neg.
<< <i>Clearly a scam. No one has 3 coins lost in the mail like that. He just extorts an occassional free coin and the OP didnt feel like playing. I also notice though that the OP has collected another Neg. >>
Really? No one? So, a bad or dishonest postal employee couldn't have anything to do with it? It HAS to be a scam?
<< <i>Clearly a scam. No one has 3 coins lost in the mail like that. He just extorts an occassional free coin and the OP didnt feel like playing. I also notice though that the OP has collected another Neg. >>
Really? No one? So, a bad or dishonest postal employee couldn't have anything to do with it? It HAS to be a scam? >>
Correct. Its possible that the Loch Ness monster exists, but its far more likely that it doesnt!
At first glance it does look like a scam , plenty of buyers do this , just send a coin with no delivery confirmation to test these waters. But looking at the buyers track record he seems to buy from China on occasion and they never use delivery confirmation so if anyone is ripe for scamming its the Chinese sellers cos they will just send another no questions asked.Yet theres glowing feedback for those transactions.In my own opinion a scammer is a scammer and would be hitting the easier targets along with naive US sellers.
<< <i>Regardless of what the problem might be, to have avoided the neg Wolf could have worked with the buyer beyond the "Don't email me again." point. As it was, he left the buyer high and dry and now believes that it was the buyers fault he received his well deserved neg. >>
It is the buyers fault. Wolfe did all that he was required to do and thats that. You must have a problem with the op because you always think that you are right. Not this time!!!
<< <i>Regardless of what the problem might be, to have avoided the neg Wolf could have worked with the buyer beyond the "Don't email me again." point. As it was, he left the buyer high and dry and now believes that it was the buyers fault he received his well deserved neg. >>
How do you work with people that are trying to steal from you?
<< <i>Regardless of what the problem might be, to have avoided the neg Wolf could have worked with the buyer beyond the "Don't email me again." point. As it was, he left the buyer high and dry and now believes that it was the buyers fault he received his well deserved neg. >>
How do you work with people that are trying to steal from you? >>
How do you know it's not a mail carrier problem?
You may be right, and the buyer is trying to pull a fast one. You cannot, at least from where I sit, conclude the seller is trying to steal from you.
Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
Personally, I would have told the seller he/she needs to contact the postal service and resolve it with them. None the less, the buyer does seem to be irrational. The coin was delivered to the address the buyer requested. The seller is no longer responsible.
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<< <i>WIhtout taking sides, like me ask this.... For those saying that the seller is in the right, what about the buyer? If the buyer is being 100% honest on this (and no reason to think she isn't), why should she be out the $36? If the post office mistakenly did something and marked it as delivered, what makes the seller in the right (keeps the money) and the buyer in the wrong (out the money and the coin)? >>
Her beef is with her post office mailman. Post Office says delivered, she says not. Seller met his obligation. >>
Anyone who thinks the sellers responsibility ends when he drops it off at the post office is gonna end up disagreeing with me. So there. --jerry
<< <i>As this thread will not die, I did a google search. Images were available. This is a single family residence, built in the 1950's. No shared mailbox I would think. Appears to have a mail slot in the front door.
And if you checked feedback given, it seems she very recently had this problem before (December) and damaged another seller. But he was a "cooperative" seller, and only got a neutral. >>
Wolf based on your feedback I think we all agree you are an honest person but we also all see you are very stubborn. Some members have posted some good feedback that you have either ignored or just chosen not to reply.
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<< <i>Correct response would have been:
"I understand your frustration. In order for both of us to be covered and in order for the eBay system to work properly I need you to file a dispute with eBay so that the dispute resolution process properly runs its course through eBay."
You followed all the rules up to that point.
But, getting the case into eBay Dispute Resolution shifts the responsibility of solving the dispute over to eBay.
You almost certainly would have won the case and in certain circumstances eBay will eat the loss and cover the loss for either party. >>
Best advice in the whole thread.
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<< <i>As this thread will not die, I did a google search. Images were available. This is a single family residence, built in the 1950's. No shared mailbox I would think. Appears to have a mail slot in the front door.
And if you checked feedback given, it seems she very recently had this problem before (December) and damaged another seller. But he was a "cooperative" seller, and only got a neutral. >>
Wolf based on your feedback I think we all agree you are an honest person but we also all see you are very stubborn. Some members have posted some good feedback that you have either ignored or just chosen not to reply. >>
Thank you, but you and others misunderstand. Where did I ask for anyone's advice? This thread is a warning about a problem buyer. Take it or leave it.
Now, to you all reading the thread. Stop baiting me to reply, stop making false accusations, and grow up and get a life. It's a simple eBay issue, and it's over and done.
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<< <i>Thank you, but you and others misunderstand. Where did I ask for anyone's advice? This thread is a warning about a problem buyer. Take it or leave it.
Now, to you all reading the thread. Stop baiting me to reply, stop making false accusations, and grow up and get a life. It's a simple eBay issue, and it's over and done. >>
You see, when you choose to air your grievances on an internet forum that has thousands of members, you really don't get to control when the discussion ends.
I cannot help but side with my customer in order to solve a problem.
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<< <i>As this thread will not die, I did a google search. Images were available. This is a single family residence, built in the 1950's. No shared mailbox I would think. Appears to have a mail slot in the front door.
And if you checked feedback given, it seems she very recently had this problem before (December) and damaged another seller. But he was a "cooperative" seller, and only got a neutral. >>
Wolf based on your feedback I think we all agree you are an honest person but we also all see you are very stubborn. Some members have posted some good feedback that you have either ignored or just chosen not to reply. >>
Thank you, but you and others misunderstand. Where did I ask for anyone's advice? This thread is a warning about a problem buyer. Take it or leave it.
Now, to you all reading the thread. Stop baiting me to reply, stop making false accusations, and grow up and get a life. It's a simple eBay issue, and it's over and done. >>
I don't know about the "baiting"...but I do hope you can settle down and relax soon. It is very apparent that you are riled up and that is affecting you.
It's also very apparent that not everyone agreed with you and that upset you.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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I don't know about the "baiting"...but I do hope you can settle down and relax soon. It is very apparent that you are riled up and that is affecting you.
It's also very apparent that not everyone agreed with you and that upset you. >>
Indeed, not good for your health.
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I don't know about the "baiting"...but I do hope you can settle down and relax soon. It is very apparent that you are riled up and that is affecting you.
It's also very apparent that not everyone agreed with you and that upset you. >>
Indeed, not good for your health. >>
I agree, it is very bad for his health, feel sorry for him. Can't help to add some. LOL.
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<< <i>As this thread will not die, I did a google search. Images were available. This is a single family residence, built in the 1950's. No shared mailbox I would think. Appears to have a mail slot in the front door.
And if you checked feedback given, it seems she very recently had this problem before (December) and damaged another seller. But he was a "cooperative" seller, and only got a neutral. >>
Wolf based on your feedback I think we all agree you are an honest person but we also all see you are very stubborn. Some members have posted some good feedback that you have either ignored or just chosen not to reply. >>
Thank you, but you and others misunderstand. Where did I ask for anyone's advice? This thread is a warning about a problem buyer. Take it or leave it.
Now, to you all reading the thread. Stop baiting me to reply, stop making false accusations, and grow up and get a life. It's a simple eBay issue, and it's over and done. >>
Sorry man, but you published this on an internet forum, so it is not over until we say it's over.
Next time, post on a personal blog where you get to control or limit the conversation.
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I cannot help but side with my customer in order to solve a problem. >>
Now don't go dragin' me in to this.
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I cannot help but side with my customer in order to solve a problem. >>
Now don't go dragin' me in to this. >>
Do I sense television drama ?
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<< <i>...so it is not over until we say it's over.
"Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?!"
<< <i>Anyone who thinks the sellers responsibility ends when he drops it off at the post office is gonna end up disagreeing with me. So there. --jerry >>
As a seller, I wouldn't say my responsibility ends when I drop something off at the post offce. On the other hand, if the post office shows a package as delivered, I would figure my responsibility to include cooperating with the buyer in contacting the post office to see what might have happened to it, and any refund would be predicated on the insurer covering the loss.
Everybody has to make up their own minds, but I'm not necessarily refunding for a "lost" package that the post office says they delivered without more evidence that it wasn't received than just the buyer's say-so. Sorry about that, but there are (IMO) too many scammers on the buying side on eBay, too.
<< <i>I cannot help but think that the tone of your replies contributed to the neg.
"Don't contact me further." ???
How about: "I will check with the post office and get back to you"
or
"I will check with ebay and get back to you"
Maybe there is no possible resolution, no happy ending, but the guy clearly communicated that he did not get the coin and wants to be made whole. I cannot blame him, and after "Don't contact me further.", I would have also left a neg. >>
Bingo!
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I won a 1964 Kennedy sample slab back in November, I have sent the seller a dozen or more emails, he just wount replay.
I have never had this problem it the 7 years on EBay. That is when I learned that after 45 days nothing can be done.
My emails were polite as possible and he finally answered one, said he would look into it never heard back.
I am out the coin and the money, lesson learned. Maybe If I was rude to him he would have done something, I will never know.
He is still selling I phoned EBay they said all they could was send a email after the 45 days, and still nothing.
You see some times we really don't get the coin. just a though
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<< <i>I won a 1964 Kennedy sample slab back in November, I have sent the seller a dozen or more emails, he just wount replay.
I have never had this problem it the 7 years on EBay. That is when I learned that after 45 days nothing can be done.
My emails were polite as possible and he finally answered one, said he would look into it never heard back. >>
If you used a credit card through PayPal, you can still likely file a chargeback through your CC company. What does the tracking info for the coin say?
Russ, NCNE
The reality as we know it is that the buyer has recent history of the same "non-receipt" story according to the OP. I don't know about you guys, but since the mid 90's I have had only 2 packages that seemed to be legitimately lost in the mail out of thousdands. Having said that though it's clear the OP could certainly use a dose of patience and a bit of empathy. After all even if the buyer is trying something shady you have to give them the benefit of the doubt at first. I would never tell someone to not contact me again until I had exhausted all other avenues. That should be your 20th e-mail to the buyer, not the 3rd or 4th.
<< <i>It's laughable that some here imply that they include signature confirmation regardless of value. The reality is that 99.X% of auctions under $50 are sent with delivery confirmation and/or insurance and that's it. He77 if you want to be all high and mighty why not ridicule the seller for not sending $36 parcels via registered mail on his dime
The reality as we know it is that the buyer has recent history of the same "non-receipt" story according to the OP. I don't know about you guys, but since the mid 90's I have had only 2 packages that seemed to be legitimately lost in the mail out of thousdands. Having said that though it's clear the OP could certainly use a dose of patience and a bit of empathy. After all even if the buyer is trying something shady you have to give them the benefit of the doubt at first. I would never tell someone to not contact me again until I had exhausted all other avenues. That should be your 20th e-mail to the buyer, not the 3rd or 4th. >>
Sadly, I see this all the time. A buyer will call up and want to exchange something. I say sure. I pay postage if it is my fault but if they just want an excahange on their own initiative I let them pay for it. Many time I'll receive at $20 coin in a priority mail box with signature confirmation--about $8.
--Jerry
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<< <i>It might have been delivered to the wrong address. If I recall correctly, DC works by having the delivery employee scan the package at some point during the delivery process. It would be nice if all such scans were done at the moment the item was placed in the correct box, but from time to time items have been known to be delivered to the incorrect address yet they show up as delivered because they were scanned. >>
Right you are. Now my mailbox is a " scan " point. I can't tell you how many times this very same scenario occurred with shipments to me from auction firms. >>
This has happened to me as well...went to the post office, told them tracking showed a package being delivered to me that I did not receive, post office said they couldn't find it. next day the package is in my mail box so I believe the buyer was probably telling the truth but it is difficult for the seller to issue a refund on a coin that says it's been delivered...quite the pickle
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<< <i>Correct response would have been:
"I understand your frustration. In order for both of us to be covered and in order for the eBay system to work properly I need you to file a dispute with eBay so that the dispute resolution process properly runs its course through eBay."
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I am saving this one for the future!
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<< <i>And now mysteriously, the buyer has "lost" a third coin in the mail. Left a positive for the seller after leaving a neutral and a negative for me (I refused to refund her).
This is a scam, as I warned you about.
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that is the exact reason i got out of the low-dollar sales via snail mail. not cost effective for tracking and no way to know for sure when something is lost if it is indeed lost or if the buyer just states it has been lost.
would be really sweet if a $0.25 tracking option could be implemented for all letter sized items under 2oz, or maybe even 1oz.
i'd probably triple my profits and sell thousands more items
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<< <i>I cannot help but think that the tone of your replies contributed to the neg.
"Don't contact me further." ???
How about: "I will check with the post office and get back to you"
or
"I will check with ebay and get back to you"
Maybe there is no possible resolution, no happy ending, but the guy clearly communicated that he did not get the coin and wants to be made whole. I cannot blame him, and after "Don't contact me further.", I would have also left a neg. >>
I agree, although I might have considered a neutral rather than a negative.
<< <i>And now mysteriously, the buyer has "lost" a third coin in the mail. Left a positive for the seller after leaving a neutral and a negative for me (I refused to refund her).
This is a scam, as I warned you about.
Feedback here >>
For a $7 Barber Dime? Boy, she is really raking it in.
<< <i>And now mysteriously, the buyer has "lost" a third coin in the mail. Left a positive for the seller after leaving a neutral and a negative for me (I refused to refund her).
This is a scam, as I warned you about.
Feedback here >>
Could it be a mail carrier problem?
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<< <i>Clearly a scam. No one has 3 coins lost in the mail like that. He just extorts an occassional free coin and the OP didnt feel like playing. I also notice though that the OP has collected another Neg. >>
Really? No one? So, a bad or dishonest postal employee couldn't have anything to do with it? It HAS to be a scam?
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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<< <i>Clearly a scam. No one has 3 coins lost in the mail like that. He just extorts an occassional free coin and the OP didnt feel like playing. I also notice though that the OP has collected another Neg. >>
Really? No one? So, a bad or dishonest postal employee couldn't have anything to do with it? It HAS to be a scam?
Correct. Its possible that the Loch Ness monster exists, but its far more likely that it doesnt!
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<< <i>Regardless of what the problem might be, to have avoided the neg Wolf could have worked with the buyer beyond the "Don't email me again." point. As it was, he left the buyer high and dry and now believes that it was the buyers fault he received his well deserved neg. >>
It is the buyers fault. Wolfe did all that he was required to do and thats that.
You must have a problem with the op because you always think that you are right.
Not this time!!!
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<< <i>Regardless of what the problem might be, to have avoided the neg Wolf could have worked with the buyer beyond the "Don't email me again." point. As it was, he left the buyer high and dry and now believes that it was the buyers fault he received his well deserved neg. >>
How do you work with people that are trying to steal from you?
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<< <i>Regardless of what the problem might be, to have avoided the neg Wolf could have worked with the buyer beyond the "Don't email me again." point. As it was, he left the buyer high and dry and now believes that it was the buyers fault he received his well deserved neg. >>
How do you work with people that are trying to steal from you? >>
How do you know it's not a mail carrier problem?
You may be right, and the buyer is trying to pull a fast one. You cannot, at least from where I sit, conclude the seller is trying to steal from you.
Really?
How 'bout we all go to another thread to talk about coins.......