The 1872 is too dark to see on my ancient monitor (which is too dark despite having the brightness maxed out)... but strongly suspect.
Edit: let me amend that, since I can't see either very well considering the poor pictures and my poor monitor, so I'll just say the obverse of the 1845 throws up some red flags to me and leave it at that. I do not know for sure because of the aforementioned challenges.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
I Took them to a coin dealer today he said there the real coin i hadother emails asking the same thing. he set them on a digital scale and checked them with a small magafing glass
- rustyoldmodels
Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
The 1872 has no motto so clearly a fake, as for the trade dollar he has up the date is to round or pillowy not sharp as well as rim is off. Personally I'm reporting these auctions.
Both are Chinese counterfeits and not very good ones at that.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
<< <i>I don't understand the point of these threads Rich?
These are your typical chinese counterfeits which easily >75% of active numismatics could ID instantly >>
It's still good to educate the other 25%.
And sadly given my experience with many collectors I've met at the clubs over the years, I think that your 75% estimate is high. It might be 75% or more among the people who post on this board, but spread over the entire collector population, you would surprised at how little many collectors know about 19th century U.S. coins.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Yes, it looks like it's no good to me. Maybe that's why they keep photographing these things at the wierd angles.
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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The 1872 is too dark to see on my ancient monitor (which is too dark despite having the brightness maxed out)... but strongly suspect.
Edit: let me amend that, since I can't see either very well considering the poor pictures and my poor monitor, so I'll just say the obverse of the 1845 throws up some red flags to me and leave it at that. I do not know for sure because of the aforementioned challenges.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
<< <i>The '45 dollar is off. Gross uneven wear from obverse and reverse. >>
Exactly. That was the main thing that triggered my red flags.
It just looks wrong.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.
<< <i>Both fake >>
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<< <i>Both fake >>
me 2.
bob
PS: sent a note to the seller indicating my concerns and suggesting he get them looked
at by a dealer.
"Fake. Fake. Fake, fake, fake."
Dear bobandlinda1,
I Took them to a coin dealer today he said there the real coin i hadother emails asking the same thing. he set them on a digital scale and checked them with a small magafing glass
- rustyoldmodels
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
He also has this fake up 1874
<< <i>Fake - look at the rims and no need to look further. >>
RMR: 'Wer, wenn ich schriee, hörte mich denn aus der Engel Ordnungen?'
CJ: 'No one!' [Ain't no angels in the coin biz]
type2,CCHunter.
Common everyday fakes with the common everyday excuse. (You know--The They are a friends and I don't know anything about coins bit.)
The car is real though-someone can make some money on scrap metal. Bob
<< <i>What's the TV espisode?
"Fake. Fake. Fake, fake, fake." >>
Gold old Seinfeld. Hopefully Rich finds the real and fantastic ones on ebay after passing on the fakes.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
What happened to the motto on that 72 ??? LOL !!!
These are your typical chinese counterfeits which easily >75% of active numismatics could ID instantly
"Barn find"?
<< <i>I don't understand the point of these threads Rich?
These are your typical chinese counterfeits which easily >75% of active numismatics could ID instantly >>
It's still good to educate the other 25%.
And sadly given my experience with many collectors I've met at the clubs over the years, I think that your 75% estimate is high. It might be 75% or more among the people who post on this board, but spread over the entire collector population, you would surprised at how little many collectors know about 19th century U.S. coins.
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
"I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
<< <i>RETURNS NOT ACEPTED>>>>
I'M LISTING THESE COINS THE BEST THAT I CAN AS I DONT KNOW MUCH ABOUT COINS >>
Run away from this. Every time.
So this is probably fake too...wonder if the car's fake too.
roadrunner