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Unopened 1953 proof sets on ebay.

What do the experts on the forum think of this auction? Who could the #1 expert be that the seller is talking about in the description?

Also, it seems like he could get more out of them selling them individually. I'd be interested in buying one, but not 5.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/250930074992?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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    MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    When it comes to proof sets my #1 expert (and personal hero) is Val Webb!!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

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    GManGMan Posts: 790 ✭✭
    I think I would have sold them as singles as well.
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    mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow pretty cool and price not too bad
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    CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    There is a single up for BIN on ebay at $325. What is the going rate for these sets?
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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Seller is OK. The sets are real
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have two1952 Proof sets that are in unopened boxes. I can almost guarantee you that none of the coins in there are cameo Proofs. They are quite the opposite. The three opened sets were bright heavily die polished Proof coins that long on brightness, but not sharp on details.

    Weak details were the hallmarks of many Proof coins from the early 1940s and early 1950s. Collector complaints about a lack of luster or brightness (e.g. They didn’t like the satin finish.) prompted the mint do excessive die polishing. The mint also did not change Proof dies as frequently as they should have.

    The 1953 Proof sets are a bit sharper as a general rule, but there are only a limited number of cameo coins, which are the pieces that really bring the big bucks.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I can almost guarantee you that none of the coins in there are not cameo Proofs. They are quite the opposite. >>

    Did you say that right, Bill?
    Lance.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,991 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I can almost guarantee you that none of the coins in there are not cameo Proofs. They are quite the opposite. >>

    Did you say that right, Bill?
    Lance. >>



    Corrected.

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    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭

    There is a known 1953 doubled date proof cent; that would also be the attraction.
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    WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
    First gut wrench opinion looking at only the first picture and not reading a single reply, NO, they are NOT original.

    Why?

    1. to pristine (unless they were just removed from a Mint shipping box

    2. only one band of tape, I was expecting to see the two bands crossing one another

    3. date stamp on edge instead of the top of the box, black was the only color I've ever seen

    4. or I could be wrong and they are all genuine, or they may be packed with the infamous washers.

    me, I would not invest money to see what's inside, only to re-sell them to some other curious collector.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,991 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Now that I’ve opened the link, I didn't remember seeing 1953 Proof sets that had the date stenciled on the edge of the box. I also recall double, overlapping tape on all boxes of this era except the 1955 box sets. I’d approach this lot with caution.

    Here is a picture of the group of 1952 sets that I have.

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    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    Not that I know anything about it, but I did look at completed auctions of unopened proof sets. The 50-52 had double tape and the 53-55 all had single tape.
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,991 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not that I know anything about it, but I did look at completed auctions of unopened proof sets. The 50-52 had double tape and the 53-55 all had single tape. >>



    You are correct. When I looked at my set boxes, the tape is you posted.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    The seller will sell them individually, so I bought one.

    Once I get it, I'll take some pics and post them here.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When it comes to proof sets my #1 expert (and personal hero) is Val Webb!! >>



    I have his book on cameo coins. He actually beat Tomaska to the punch.

    Russ, NCNE
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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>When it comes to proof sets my #1 expert (and personal hero) is Val Webb!! >>



    I have his book on cameo coins. He actually beat Tomaska to the punch.

    Russ, NCNE >>

    I actually thought Webb's book was a better read than Tomaska's too.
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    RarityRarity Posts: 1,464 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The seller will sell them individually, so I bought one.
    Once I get it, I'll take some pics and post them here. >>




    I did not see any note saying that the seller will see the set individually.
    If he does, I want to get one too image
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    << <i>

    << <i>The seller will sell them individually, so I bought one.
    Once I get it, I'll take some pics and post them here. >>




    I did not see any note saying that the seller will see the set individually.
    If he does, I want to get one too image >>




    He has more than 5. Send him an email through ebay.
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    shorecollshorecoll Posts: 5,447 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I got one, told him he might be getting more e-mails. image

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    He should be giving me a finders fee. image

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