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New early copper - 1793

BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Just got this 1/2 cent in the mail (not my pictures). Reverse is rotated (not shown rotated in the picture)
Thoughts?


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    rec78rec78 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice coin. I like those early mid grade half cents and large cents.
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    I think that half cent is freakin' gorgeous- i've had the notion that someday i need to do a set of half cents... what grade is this piece?
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    oh- and what degree is the rotation? i love the rotations!
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
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    DUIGUYDUIGUY Posts: 7,252 ✭✭✭
    I Like!


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    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly."



    - Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>oh- and what degree is the rotation? i love the rotations! >>



    Thanks. I traded in my VG08 for this one (I liked that one, considering the grade and the look it had for the grade, but liked this one a lot too!)
    Rotation is ~45% CW

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    MyqqyMyqqy Posts: 9,777 ✭
    45% is nice!
    BTW, Bochiman, i've always wondered- who is the asian woman in your avatar pic? image
    My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable !
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    thisnamztakenthisnamztaken Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A very tough (and special) coin in any grade. Cool "strings of berries" reverse, like the '93 Large Cent. Congratulations.
    I never thought that growing old would happen so fast.
    - Jim
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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great looking coin Ron... Early copper is really neat... Cheers, RickO
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    MidLifeCrisisMidLifeCrisis Posts: 10,618 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a very nice coin! image
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    jmski52jmski52 Posts: 24,021 ✭✭✭✭✭
    She's exquisite!image
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    I knew it would happen.
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,801 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice!
    My Box of 20: https://pcgs.com/setregistry/collectors-showcase/box-20/ryks-gold-box-20/17132
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    keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,650 ✭✭✭✭✭
    VERY NICE! I would be really proud to own something like that!
    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Not really looking for much these days but if I were, it might be a toner. :smile:
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭
    Planchet a tough on the rough side, but there sure is a lot of meat left on that bone! Excellent coin & congrats on the NEWP.
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice even color. A lot of history in that coin.
    MLAeBayNumismatics: "The greatest hobby in the world!"
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks guys.

    I've seen so many of these that don't have nice color, are really really rough, or have other problems, even in these grades, that when I saw this one, even though I was 100% fine with my previous one, I wanted to go after it. I was pleasantly surprised to actually win it.
    Mark Feld was great to work with as my man at the auction.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    etexmikeetexmike Posts: 6,852 ✭✭✭
    That looks like a great piece of copper.

    Congrats. image


    Mike
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    joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    Bochiman-
    A nice 1793 -- the roughness is certainly minor. Is the green stuff worrisome to you? I cannot disagree much with Mark's grade.
    I looked back in M&G auction records and this net grade is actually pretty scarce.
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    AnkurJAnkurJ Posts: 11,375 ✭✭✭✭
    Nice detail! I'm holding out for one with a smooth planchet.
    All coins kept in bank vaults.
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    Box of 20
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    BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    it's an infinite amount better than the one I don't have!

    very nice!!

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    RB1026RB1026 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭✭
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    Nice strike, pleasing color, good surfaces = GREAT coin

    So many of these you see have some sort of distraction as you say. I can totally understand why you grabbed this one. Well done!
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    MikeInFLMikeInFL Posts: 10,192 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've seen so many of these that don't have nice color, are really really rough, or have other problems, even in these grades >>



    You couldn't be more right about that, IMO!
    Collector of Large Cents, US Type, and modern pocket change.
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    TexasNationalsTexasNationals Posts: 3,837 ✭
    Well done Bochi!
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    that is a truly great coin and although I don't collect copper I would love that for my box of 20
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey Bochi
    That is an excellent coin.
    Congrats on the pick-up
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 34,581 ✭✭✭✭✭
    a very nice coin. i like image
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    btw...it is in our host's holder and does have a green sticker on it.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,984 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Nice detail! I'm holding out for one with a smooth planchet. >>



    Here's mine. It's got the surfaces and the color, but the rims aren't so hot. Back when I bought this in the late 1980s, that brought the price down a lot. It now resides in an NGC VF-35 holder. That's a little high for it IMO, but I could see it netting to VF-20 or so. The EAC guys would net it to Fine-12. Smooth, brown surfaces really drive up the prices in today's market.

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    The best one I ever handled was a "perfect" AU-50. I sold that one to favored customer for $48,000. It would be worth more than $100,000 today.
    Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Nice detail! I'm holding out for one with a smooth planchet. >>



    Here's mine. It's got the surfaces and the color, but the rims aren't so hot. Back when I bought this in the late 1980s, that brought the price down a lot. It now resides in an NGC VF-35 holder. That's a little high for it IMO, but I could see it netting to VF-20 or so. The EAC guys would net it to Fine-12. Sooth, brown surfaces really drive up the prices in today's market.


    The best one I ever handled was a "perfect" AU-50. I sold that one to favored customer for $48,000. It would be worth more than $100,000 today. >>



    Nice coin, Bill, as usually image

    Your points are, also as usual, pretty much dead-on. If you want "perfect", you will pay out the nose for something like this. I really liked the VG08 I bought earlier this year and traded back for partial credit. I paid up for it, and, sure, there is ALWAYS something that someone can nitpick on a 208 year old copper coin, but it looked better than many of the F/VF I have seen.

    If you don't have limitless funds, find one that meets your goals and looks good...but there will be "something" with it. Sometimes folks also forget that our pics blow things up much larger than a normal eye will see, so as long as it looks good, inhand, and with a loupe, to me, it's good image

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    coinnutcoinnut Posts: 1,434 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coin, Bochi. You gotta love early copper when they look like that!image

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