Just saw the "new" PCGS holder.....

DIMEMAN · June 22, 2011 11:43AM

on teletrade, I guess. Three huge prongs.......looks really stupid!!!! Hope you can still get the regular holder!!!

WTCG · June 22, 2011 11:49AM

Just received two submissions today with those new "holders". They look a bit different at first but overall I consider them an improvement.

Tiny · June 22, 2011 11:51AM

Pics or a Link Please

llafoe · June 22, 2011 11:58AM

Let's start a petition... ONE holder; ONE insert!

Tdec1000 · June 22, 2011 12:04PM

So it is really not a new holder just a new gasket with prongs for the edge viewing pleasure?

19Lyds · June 22, 2011 12:06PM

<< on teletrade, I guess. Three huge prongs.......looks really stupid!!!! Hope you can still get the regular holder!!! >>

A link or auction number and item would be helpful.

Does it look like the Presidential Dollar Insert?

TomB · June 22, 2011 12:06PM

Hadn't they been using prong style holders for a while now, at least on some coins? I ask because some UHR pieces were in prong holders a number of months ago, if I recall correctly.

DIMEMAN · June 22, 2011 12:08PM

STUPID is what it is. I won't be submitting any coins until they change it back or let you choose between the old and new!!!

I can't believe it!!!!

blu62vette · June 22, 2011 12:10PM

<< Hadn't they been using prong style holders for a while now, at least on some coins? I ask because some UHR pieces were in prong holders a number of months ago, if I recall correctly. >>

They used the for some edge view coins, also in Paris.

pocketpiececommems · June 22, 2011 12:12PM

It seems that it will be more difficult to check the coins at a glance in the blue boxes.

ColonialCoinUnion · June 22, 2011 12:16PM

Here's the "new' holder at Heritage in February of 2008.

airplanenut · June 22, 2011 12:16PM

<< It seems that it will be more difficult to check the coins at a glance in the blue boxes. >>

Presidential dollars often come with special labels, which is why the details are on the reverse side.

<< 
STUPID is what it is. I won't be submitting any coins until they change it back or let you choose between the old and new!!!

I can't believe it!!!! >>

Zoins · June 22, 2011 12:27PM

Edgeview holders seem to be the way the world is going. People like seeing the 3rd side!

Additionally, they are nice from a TPG validation perspective because the prongs show up in in-slab photos. This way you can just look at a photo and tell if it's in a top TPG slab and which TPG slabbed it.

I will say I feel the PCGS holders are generally nicer than the ones from ATS due the the translucent (vs. white) ring.

Spooly · June 22, 2011 12:31PM

PCGS clear looks better than NGC white.

WTCG · June 22, 2011 12:36PM

Products evolve and change is a fact of life. I cannot believe people get so hung up on the idea of change and can't fathom anything but the "good 'ol days". If people stop submitting because of a new holder then coin grades do not mean much to them.

I've seen the new inserts on non-modern coins and I believe they are an improvement over the current product.

keyman64 · June 22, 2011 12:41PM

I imagine that holder is only getting used for coins with edge detail. Just write a note at the bottom of the form requesting that the 3 prong edge view holder NOT be used. I would imagine they would do that for you. Call to confirm first obviously.

DIMEMAN · June 22, 2011 12:51PM

>>>I cannot believe people get so hung up on the idea of change and can't fathom anything but the "good 'ol days". If people stop submitting because of a new holder then coin grades do not mean much to them. <<<

I don't have anything against change for the better, but I have always believed in "If it's not broke don't fix it".

DIMEMAN · June 22, 2011 12:57PM

Does anybody know if this new holder is optional or if all coins will come back in them now???

tcmitssr · June 22, 2011 1:25PM

The details are at the bottom???

I have boxes of coins from PCGS with the grades and details at the top. Now my new coins will be "upside down?"

LanLord · June 22, 2011 1:31PM

I actually think I like it. I might have a different opinion if I see it in hand, but it looks pretty good.

keyman64 · June 22, 2011 1:35PM

<< Does anybody know if this new holder is optional or if all coins will come back in them now??? >>

PCGS has made no announcement to indicate such a thing. These holders have been around for a couple of years now and you have not received one yet...so it is my guess that you are not submitting special edge/error detail coins. Here again, call them and write a note at the bottom of the form and you should be just fine.

19Lyds · June 22, 2011 1:45PM

<< The details are at the bottom???

I have boxes of coins from PCGS with the grades and details at the top. Now my new coins will be "upside down?" >>

Only for the Presidential Dollars which get slabbed in all sorts of different ways.

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DIMEMAN · June 22, 2011 2:05PM

I will definitely call before I send any coins in!

jayPem · June 22, 2011 2:54PM

I can understand not wanting pronged gaskets for small coins such as dimes....
But imagine how many collectors there are out there who don't even realise that Early Dollars have lettering on the edges ?
It's a seriously important detail IMO that collectors seem strangely content to do without .
Not to mention mushy gaskets that in some cases are squished so far down the sides of the coin that the dentils get covered.
I'm not so into that.
Bring on the prongs !

ecichlid · June 22, 2011 2:58PM

<< I will definitely call before I send any coins in! >>

I'm sorry, but you being so mad about this makes me laugh.

Chump4Change · June 22, 2011 3:07PM

To me it makes every coin look like it has the radioactive sign as the backdrop...

ChrisRx · June 22, 2011 3:10PM

I am all for it for any coin that has edge lettering. Other than that I would rather not have it.

MrEureka · June 22, 2011 3:31PM

determined · June 22, 2011 7:15PM

I haven't seen one in hand but from the pics I like it. I like being able to see the edge. And the clear prongs are less distracting than the white ones.

But I wish they would have made the prongs narrower and cover less of the coin.

ricko · June 22, 2011 9:31PM

Amazing....just freakin' amazing...another tempest in a teapot... Cheers, RickO

JJM · June 22, 2011 9:57PM

I dont like em

coindeuce · June 23, 2011 12:10AM

I posed the question to the operations manager through customer service by telephone over a month ago, and was promised an answer:

Will PCGS resurrect the edgeview holder for larger diameter U.S. coins? This was relevant to my dislike of the standard holder in which I have several Morgan's encapsulated, which have edge features related to their designation as Mint Errors (Partial Collar/Railroad Rim). I now have several of these in varying PCGS grades, for which I paid $50 each for the Mint Error designation,
yet the feature is obscured!

I'm still waiting for a response.

Bossman88 · June 23, 2011 12:16AM

I like the new holder.
Less chance of hidden rim dings.

Regards, Larry

Billet7 · June 23, 2011 2:37AM

I sent in a gaggle of coins recently, most seated and bust quarters a couple of large cents...but I did include a single Pres. Dollar. The dollar was the only one to come back with this type of holder, even though the large cents have a "third side."

3sidesofsilver · June 23, 2011 4:01AM

"People like seeing the 3rd side!"
Did someone say they like seeing my 3rd side? Believe me, you really don't want to see that side...

LindeDad · June 23, 2011 4:26AM

Don't know how anybody says they are new I have a George Washingington Missing edge lettering coin in one of those holders and it came out in 2007.
Been waiting on them to start using that prong insert before I send any more coins in.

mkman123 · June 23, 2011 5:28AM

I like this and the ngc pronged holders

HKstrongside · June 23, 2011 5:35AM

I hope the 4 I just sent in come back with pronged holders. I like being able to see the whole coin. My UHR is in a pronged holder which I really enjoy.

scottgardener · June 23, 2011 6:04AM

I, too, favor the pronged holders. I'd like to be able to read the rims of my Saint Gardens $10s and $20s.

Furthermore, I retract previous complaints from about a year and a half ago about the NGC prong holders and smaller coins. Indeed, the smaller coins need the pronged holders the most, because the big white field tends to make seeing near the rim of the obverse and reverse of the coin difficult. This is a bigger issue with smaller coins. Thankfully, PCGS holders don't have that problem, though I still welcome being able to see reeds, allowing the coin to be appreciated in three dimensions as a coin.

TexasNationals · June 23, 2011 6:24AM

At least they are clear so you can't hide huge rim dings on large BN copper?

mozin · June 23, 2011 7:37AM

I received a package of freshly graded Secure Plus Capped Bust Half Dollars yesterday, all with the regular holders. Capped Bust Half Dollars all have edge lettering. Guess they are not big enough to warrant the prong holders, or maybe Secure Plus does not use the prong holders.

From the pictures, the prong holders look strange, not really to my liking. In hand, they might look much better.

DIMEMAN · June 23, 2011 7:48AM

I emailed Peter Smith at PCGS and he replied that the prong gasket is used only on coins with edge lettering. But WTCG PM'ed me that he got the following coins back in the prong holders. Classic silver commens (GW Carvers, CA Jubilees, Bay Bridge) and foreign (Chinese, India) coins. These coins do not have edge lettering as far as I know.

I guess I will send some in and see. If they put them in the prong......they will go RIGHT back.

STONE · June 23, 2011 7:52AM

<< I emailed Peter Smith at PCGS and he replied that the prong gasket is used only on coins with edge lettering. But WTCG PM'ed me that he got the following coins back in the prong holders. Classic silver commens (GW Carvers, CA Jubilees, Bay Bridge) and foreign (Chinese, India) coins. These coins do not have edge lettering as far as I know.

I guess I will send some in and see. If they put them in the prong......they will go RIGHT back. >>

Do Bust Dimes have edge lettering? I've got several of those at PCGS right now!!!

DIMEMAN · June 23, 2011 8:16AM

>>>Do Bust Dimes have edge lettering? I've got several of those at PCGS right now!!!<<<

Not to my knowledge!!!

BlindedByEgo · June 23, 2011 8:59AM

Meh. No biggie.

illini420 · June 23, 2011 9:15AM

Have a 50-coin order that just shipped from PCGS today (should get it tomorrow)... now I'm wondering what sort of holders it will be... not sure which I'd rather have either until I'm able to see these in hand.

Dennis88 · June 23, 2011 9:36AM

It was about time PCGS introduced these...Not being able to view the edge is a major disadvantage of third-party grading, IMHO.

Dennis

ColonialCoinUnion · June 23, 2011 9:39AM

I got a bunch of world coins in the mail today. All of the small denomination pieces were in these pronged holders, while the dollar sized coins were in regular holders. None of the world coins had edge lettering.

golfer72 · June 23, 2011 9:54AM

Ah settle down everyone! i remember disliking the NGC prong holders initially but now I think they have the best holder in the business. Cant believe PCGS took so long. Also just think! Now all your old blue holders (OBH) will be worth more.

seateddime · June 23, 2011 10:14AM

I have 2 original proof sets there now a 1938 and 1939 that have been in a safe deposit box since 1980!

BigDowgie · June 23, 2011 10:31AM

I for one will welcome the new gasket. I'm pretty tired of getting coins back that look like this. I find this to be quite a pain to have to write a Service Rep and send them back to be reholdered. This happens more than I care to talk about! I think the new gasket will eliminate this problem. I will also appreciate seeing the rim! You will get a better all around look and feel for the coin. I'm now concerned about the cost of converting my main coins to the new gasket/holder!!!!

Just saw the "new" PCGS holder.....

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