MS63, over, under, or push?

killer26 · June 16, 2011 4:45PM

canadanz · June 16, 2011 4:50PM

62/63

How's the luster?

morgandollar1878 · June 16, 2011 4:58PM

Under... Way under, and looks cleaned too.

COALPORTER · June 16, 2011 5:00PM

au

Pokermandude · June 16, 2011 5:03PM

Looks AU to me. Lots of breaks in the luster, wear on the high points. Those hairlines on the cheek area aren't good either, possibly cleaned, possibly just from circulation though.

krueger · June 16, 2011 5:12PM

under, much greying of the fields plus hairlines---AU55

krueger

mkman123 · June 16, 2011 7:10PM

No way it could be ms63

killer26 · June 16, 2011 7:50PM

<< Under... Way under, and looks cleaned too. >>

I dont know if this coin has been cleaned, I know I havent, is it a bad thing to clean a coin?

PerryHall · June 16, 2011 8:42PM

Not MS. Looks AU55 and possibily cleaned.

OchoReales · June 16, 2011 9:22PM

AU58 from the picture.

slipgate · June 16, 2011 9:31PM

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<< Under... Way under, and looks cleaned too. >>

I dont know if this coin has been cleaned, I know I havent, is it a bad thing to clean a coin? >>

*It's ok as long as you use that special kind of brillo pad with the pink soap in it.

*disclaimer: comment made for humor only and should not be taken seriously. Never clean coins with brillo!

STONE · June 16, 2011 9:33PM

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<< Under... Way under, and looks cleaned too. >>

I dont know if this coin has been cleaned, I know I havent, is it a bad thing to clean a coin? >>

It's ok as long as you use that special kind of brillo pad with the pink soap in it. >>

Don't encourage the ignorant!

ambro51 · June 16, 2011 9:42PM

AU details cleaned.

killer26 · June 16, 2011 9:47PM

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<< Under... Way under, and looks cleaned too. >>

I dont know if this coin has been cleaned, I know I havent, is it a bad thing to clean a coin? >>

It's ok as long as you use that special kind of brillo pad with the pink soap in it. >>

Ur a real funny guy

hole

killer26 · June 16, 2011 9:53PM

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<< Under... Way under, and looks cleaned too. >>

I dont know if this coin has been cleaned, I know I havent, is it a bad thing to clean a coin? >>

It's ok as long as you use that special kind of brillo pad with the pink soap in it. >>

Don't encourage the ignorant! >>

Two class acts right here, guess u were just born with coin knowledge huh. Unfortunately i wasnt, so pardon me for being IGNORANT.

SilverAvalanche · June 16, 2011 9:55PM

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<< Under... Way under, and looks cleaned too. >>

I dont know if this coin has been cleaned, I know I havent, is it a bad thing to clean a coin? >>

It's ok as long as you use that special kind of brillo pad with the pink soap in it. >>

Yet another Fine example of " "humor" " when a newbie asks a question.
Sometimes Funny looks stupid on you.

BillJones · June 16, 2011 10:00PM

Sorry, the coin is not even Mint State let alone MS-63. It's an AU.

killer26 · June 16, 2011 10:06PM

Btw, by "clean" i meant an acetone bath.

slipgate · June 16, 2011 10:09PM

OMG! Lighten up folks! Can you imagine anyone actually cleaning a coin with a brillo pad with the "special pink soap" just because they read about it on the forums? It is Friday! Maybe some of you could use a sense of humor for the weekend.

killer26 · June 16, 2011 10:15PM

<< Sorry, the coin is not even Mint State let alone MS-63. It's an AU. >>

I honestly didnt think it was MS63, higher than AU yes, but no 63.
Thanks those of u who took my stupid question seriously.

ricko · June 16, 2011 10:17PM

AU55 at best....
and yes, it is a very bad thing to clean coins... an acetone soak is NOT cleaning in the bad sense... Cheers, RickO

SilverAvalanche · June 16, 2011 10:26PM

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<< Sorry, the coin is not even Mint State let alone MS-63. It's an AU. >>

I honestly didnt think it was MS63, higher than AU yes, but no 63.
Thanks those of u who took my stupid question seriously. >>

NO question is stupid, it just may be better to read the posts and find a member who you respect and send them a personal message with your questions. There are a lot of respectable members here that can help you without all the Fluff

Shamika · June 16, 2011 11:03PM

Looks like a "slider" which is a term used to describe a coin that might appear mint state to those not experienced in coin grading.

RedTiger · June 16, 2011 11:49PM

<< OMG! Lighten up folks! Can you imagine anyone actually cleaning a coin with a brillo pad with the "special pink soap" just because they read about it on the forums? It is Friday! Maybe some of you could use a sense of humor for the weekend. >>

Unfortunately yes. I'm sure it has happened. A lot of newbies read the forums and Internet search engines often find isolated comments out of context. Humor and sarcasm are difficult when facial expressions are missing. I'm sure more than a few newbies have done terrible things to their coins because some smart veteran forumite thought they were making a clever joke. Be careful what you write. If you must make such comments it is a good idea to add obvious disclaimers into the post such as <just kidding>.

SilverAvalanche · June 17, 2011 12:41AM

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<< OMG! Lighten up folks! Can you imagine anyone actually cleaning a coin with a brillo pad with the "special pink soap" just because they read about it on the forums? It is Friday! Maybe some of you could use a sense of humor for the weekend. >>

Unfortunately yes. I'm sure it has happened. A lot of newbies read the forums and Internet search engines often find isolated comments out of context. Humor and sarcasm are difficult when facial expressions are missing. I'm sure more than a few newbies have done terrible things to their coins because some smart veteran forumite thought they were making a clever joke. Be careful what you write. If you must make such comments it is a good idea to add obvious disclaimers into the post such as <just kidding>. >>

RedneckHB · June 17, 2011 12:58AM

<< Sorry, the coin is not even Mint State let alone MS-63. It's an AU. >>

NewRose · June 17, 2011 1:26AM

Geez, what just happened? LOL
Overreacting and humor...that's a coin forum for ya'

The coin is AU, as it shows signs of wear, and has been cleaned.
An acetone bath wouldn't help this coin, but acetone baths can help other coins. It depends on what is on the coin/what it looks like.
Killer26, if you have any questions on what coins you have that could use an acetone bath, don't hesitate to post them.

devious · June 17, 2011 2:15AM

Killer, I don't think STONE meant to call you IGNORANT as in stupid or anything. I think it was a general statement when referencing the joke of a brillo pad and the soap. Some new folks may actually take that as a serious action to follow.

And I know you may think of it as a joke, your thread title, knowing its not a 63, but if you knew that much, wouldn't you have known this is an AU details coin? It looks like it may have been cleaned, but the only real way to know is to have the coin in hand. I'd say AU53 and possibly cleaned. Can't say with absolute certainty in this case whether or not it has been cleaned.

We welcome the "ignorant" folks here. This is a place to learn and every poster on this forum is actually learning...every day they come here!

Welcome to the forums, by the way! I don't know (remember) if I've said so yet.

rhedden · June 17, 2011 2:49AM

I grade it XF45.

STONE · June 17, 2011 3:03AM

I just re-read this post and noticed my "ignorant" comment stirred up a few comments.

I apologize if it was offensive to the OP (or others posting after me), it wasn't meant to be be directed at
you per-se, but to the general public who are not involved heavily in coins and think that "improving" their
surface appearance will enhance their value.

But when you go on to say "should I clean the coin", and then specify "with acetone" those two have
widely different meanings, easily misunderstood on these message boards.

PerryHall · June 17, 2011 4:03AM

<< OMG! Lighten up folks! Can you imagine anyone actually cleaning a coin with a brillo pad with the "special pink soap" just because they read about it on the forums? >>

Yes. It's amazing what non-collectors will do to coins to shine them up to make them purdy and more valuable. Usually a pencil eraser or a polishing cloth is their first choice. I remember seeing a coin cleaning kit in a hobby shop many years ago that included a brass brush and chemicals in a neat little blister pack. A chill went up my spine when I saw that.

astrorat · June 17, 2011 8:13AM

The coin is not mint state, but has some circulation wear (as evidenced by some flat spots on the high points of the design elements). The coin has been cleaned at one time, likely to high the small amount of wear. The wear which shows on an original coin as flat spots of a slightly darker color. Cleaning the coin generally changes the darker "wear" spots to be consistent with the rest of the coin and with the intent of mimicking an uncirculated coin.

HKstrongside · June 17, 2011 8:40AM

Not MS, to much high point wear, looks low to mid AU to me. I would agree that it has likely been cleaned.

llafoe · June 17, 2011 8:44AM

Cleaning with pink soap in a Brillo pad... BAD

Cleaning with acetone... GOOD or BAD, depending on a lot of variables... if it needs it... it hasn't been over-dipped... or if you're getting ready to sell it to someone who just cleaned their other coin with pink soap in a Brillo pad!

Humor... ALWAYS GOOD!

People who don't like humor... ALWAYS BAD!

telephoto1 · June 17, 2011 9:19AM

XF45 cleaned

TomB · June 17, 2011 10:22AM

The coin is absolutely not mint state.

Raybo · June 17, 2011 11:58AM

<< I grade it XF45. >>

I just picked the first grade I agreed with...............63 is way OUT!

coinman23885 · June 17, 2011 12:42PM

AU details

Frankiefanatic · June 17, 2011 12:47PM

this is not an over/under, nor a 63 or push. Pull it from thought, and that ratty 2x2 and place it in a Taco Bell napkin, set it on the water heater or in your attic for the next 6-9 months, allow it to mature. Remove it gently from the wrap and view it with 2 fingers on the side (wash yer hands foist!) and give it a spin in natural light- it may show signs of advanced patina (aka- artificial toning from a napkin)- put it up on ebay as an old piece and you will triple your money in a heartbeat, so you can turn that $$ into a nice graded MS64 in an NGC or old Anacs holdered coin.

coindudeonebay · June 17, 2011 3:47PM

<< Under... Way under, and looks cleaned too. >>

I absolutely have to agree. Looks like it had a good wiping.

MS63, over, under, or push?

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