How do you think this Franklin proof will look after a dip? Updated with "after" pictures!

coinkid855 · May 23, 2011 1:14PM

I've been meaning to dip it with Ezest after an unsuccessful attempt with acetone. I just ordered some, and I'll post results when I get them. You guys think the obverse will come out as nice as the reverse? (which still will benefit from the dip, I think)

These are straight from my camera...Feeling too lazy to edit them atm.

-Paul

TomB · May 23, 2011 1:18PM

I think it would look quite a bit better to most folks, but I hope you can get those pesky spots out of the obverse field, too.

AMRC · May 23, 2011 1:44PM

Like a proof coin with spots for no good reason.

coinkid855 · May 23, 2011 1:47PM

<< Like a proof coin with spots for no good reason. >>

LOL. I certainly hope not!

-Paul

SanctionII · May 23, 2011 2:57PM

I predict that a dip will remove bpth obverse and reverse haze that has built up on the coin [but maybe not all of the obverse haze, some of which may have eaten into the metal], but the coin will have many spots and impaired fields after the dip.

In other words, a dip may will probably not result in a pristine black and white, high grade cameo proof half.

coinkid855 · May 23, 2011 3:04PM

<< I predict that a dip will remove bpth obverse and reverse haze that has built up on the coin [but maybe not all of the obverse haze, some of which may have eaten into the metal], but the coin will have many spots and impaired fields after the dip.

In other words, a dip may will probably not result in a pristine black and white, high grade cameo proof half. >>

Well, you're definitley the expert. I'm still gonna give it a go anyways. It can't get much uglier, and I picked this up in a set a while back for like, 12 bucks. I figured it was worth a shot!

-Paul

ricko · May 24, 2011 12:10AM

Interesting... keep us posted. I do not think the spots will be removed - or if they are, something will remain..... Good luck, Cheers, RickO

BillJones · May 24, 2011 12:24AM

The coin could be a cameo on the obverse, but it is not an ultra Cameo. Sadly I think that the spots in front of Franklin's face will still be there after the dip.

coinkid855 · May 24, 2011 12:57AM

<< Interesting... keep us posted. I do not think the spots will be removed - or if they are, something will remain..... Good luck, Cheers, RickO >>

I definitley will. It won't be until next week though, unfortunately!

-Paul

ibex66 · May 24, 2011 1:09AM

Don't know much about ezest and acetone is useless for getting rid of milk spots and discoloration like your coin exhibits. Have you considered cloudy ammonia, ie ammonia with a soapy detergent in it. I'm gonna give that a try on some RCM maples that are badly milk-spotted, acetone did zero for that.

relicsncoins · May 24, 2011 1:15AM

That looks like a good canidate for MS70.

coinkid855 · May 24, 2011 1:32AM

<< That looks like a good canidate for MS70. >>

I only bought Ezest...You don't think that'll work?

-Paul

relicsncoins · May 24, 2011 1:41AM

<< 

<< That looks like a good canidate for MS70. >>

I only bought Ezest...You don't think that'll work?

-Paul >>

There is always a bit of uncertainty with any "dipping". MS70 is not an acid and the manufacture clains it will not remove any metal.

GMan · May 24, 2011 2:54AM

I use MS-70 with great results sometimes. It's almost like dish soap. Removes lots of grime and PVC as well. You should give it a try as it's really helped some coins for me, and sometimes, with the right coin, the results are striking. To me it's a great product.

coinkid855 · May 24, 2011 3:14AM

<< I use MS-70 with great results sometimes. It's almost like dish soap. Removes lots of grime and PVC as well. You should give it a try as it's really helped some coins for me, and sometimes, with the right coin, the results are striking. To me it's a great product. >>

Sounds like I'll have to pick some up! I'm assuming after a dip in anything (MS70, Acetone, Ezest, etc.) you should rinse the coin in distilled water, correct?

-Paul

coinkid855 · May 24, 2011 3:21AM

I actually just called up JP's Corner and added a bottle of MS70 to my order!! It should ship today! So you guys think I should give the MS70 a go first, considering it's less harsh?

-Paul

relicsncoins · May 24, 2011 3:58AM

<< I actually just called up JP's Corner and added a bottle of MS70 to my order!! It should ship today! So you guys think I should give the MS70 a go first, considering it's less harsh?

-Paul >>

Always use the least "intrusive" product first. I would go Acetone, followed by MS70 and then Ezest. Especially with the MS70 and Ezest, you should rinse the coin thouroughly. I typical hold the coin under running tap water for aound a minute on each side and then dunk it in fresh acetone and pat dry.

I don't dip coins a lot, but have dipped some. I have a few that I dipped 5 years ago, and following the rinse procedure above, none of them have changed color since the day they were dipped.

When you dip a coin, it exposes a fresh layer of metal that will be very conducive to toning and if you store it in environment that has excessive toning agents such as moisture and sulfur, it will tone quickly and likely not very astetic.

coinkid855 · May 24, 2011 4:07AM

<< 

<< I actually just called up JP's Corner and added a bottle of MS70 to my order!! It should ship today! So you guys think I should give the MS70 a go first, considering it's less harsh?

-Paul >>

Always use the least "intrusive" product first. I would go Acetone, followed by MS70 and then Ezest. Especially with the MS70 and Ezest, you should rinse the coin thouroughly. I typical hold the coin under running tap water for aound a minute on each side and then dunk it in fresh acetone and pat dry.

I don't dip coins a lot, but have dipped some. I have a few that I dipped 5 years ago, and following the rinse procedure above, none of them have changed color since the day they were dipped.

When you dip a coin, it exposes a fresh layer of metal that will be very conducive to toning and if you store it in environment that has excessive toning agents such as moisture and sulfur, it will tone quickly and likely not very astetic. >>

Thanks so much for the tips!! I already tried acetone on this Frankie, so I'll give the MS70 a go afterwards, and will definitley heed your advise on the rinsing!

-Paul

Kove · May 24, 2011 4:34AM

While I generally agree with the advice to use the least caustic substance first, the combination of issues with this coin (spots in addition to the toning) would cause me to do things in a different order.

In order to get a nice uniform dip on the toning, I would do the EZest first (I wouldn't want to risk the MS 70 causing uneven toning removal). After the toning is gone, I have had success in using MS 70 on a Q-tip and treating the white spots very gently (you don't want hairlines), but only applying the MS 70 as a localized cleaner.

As stated, rinsing afterward for 1-2 minutes is one of the most important steps.

AU58WALKERS · May 24, 2011 9:40PM

it will look like it has been dipped

TwoSides2aCoin · May 24, 2011 10:09PM

I see a CAC sticker in this coin's future.

coinkid855 · June 2, 2011 1:37AM

Ok guys, here it is...It didn't quite come out the way I hoped, but definitley looks better than it did....Then again, I don't know what the hell i'm doing when it comes to dipping. Lol.

Again, these images are straight from my camera.

-Paul

MercCrazy · June 2, 2011 1:42AM

Nice result... think it would Cameo?

coinkid855 · June 2, 2011 1:43AM

<< Nice result... think it would Cameo? >>

I don't think so. It looks better in the images than it does in person.

-Paul

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