Is anybody here with ShawneeCoins on Ebay?

Hyperion · April 4, 2011 3:16AM

Link to Ebay

amazing how that toned up so quickly

commoncents05 · April 4, 2011 3:18AM

Hayden Tubbs (HTubbs) is Shawnee Coins on eBay.

-Paul

JCMhouston · April 4, 2011 3:25AM

Yep, he's a good guy, I have bought and sold with him off ebay. His pricing appears to be a bit enthusiastic on that piece but maybe it's just me, everybody has to make a living someway.

commoncents05 · April 4, 2011 3:26AM

<< Yep, he's a good guy, I have bought and sold with him off ebay. >>

I have done many transactions with Hayden here on the boards, and on eBay and all went smoothly.

-Paul

TheBigB · April 4, 2011 3:28AM

I like it, just 15 more minutes in the oven and it would be perfect.

Hyperion · April 4, 2011 3:35AM

I've dealt with Hayden with no issues or problems of any sort and he seems like a good guy, but I'm not removing this post.

johnny9434 · April 4, 2011 4:04AM

<< Link to Ebay

amazing how that toned up so quickly >>

yes it is amazing how it does tone up, doesent it

mingot · April 4, 2011 4:11AM

considering the subject coin it seems weird to even raise an eyebrow at this.

just a little more fantasy, no?

19Lyds · April 4, 2011 6:02AM

<< considering the subject coin it seems weird to even raise an eyebrow at this.

just a little more fantasy, no? >>

U-h-h-h-h

Yes. I believe so!

DorkGirl · April 4, 2011 6:07AM

<< considering the subject coin it seems weird to even raise an eyebrow at this.

just a little more fantasy, no? >>

Russ · April 4, 2011 6:52AM

Personally, I don't think Hayden AT'd the coin. At least not deliberately. The color looks like it was caused by storage in something that reacted with the surfaces.

Russ, NCNE

Meltdown · April 4, 2011 7:10AM

<< Personally, I don't think Hayden AT'd the coin. At least not deliberately. The color looks like it was caused by storage in something that reacted with the surfaces.

Russ, NCNE >>

Yeah. Like a book of matches.

JamesMurray · April 4, 2011 7:21AM

Is it a case of When is a coin doctor not a coin doctor ?

Russ · April 4, 2011 7:53AM

<< 

<< Personally, I don't think Hayden AT'd the coin. At least not deliberately. The color looks like it was caused by storage in something that reacted with the surfaces.

Russ, NCNE >>

Yeah. Like a book of matches.

>>

That isn't heat toning.

Russ, NCNE

questor54 · April 4, 2011 8:33AM

I have always been very happy with my transactions with Hayden.

Who did or did not tone that silver round or medal, or whatever it is, is not important to me.

MsMorrisine · April 4, 2011 8:38AM

<< considering the subject coin it seems weird to even raise an eyebrow at this.

just a little more fantasy, no? >>

post of the day!

MsMorrisine · April 4, 2011 8:40AM

It can't be AT....

that's textile toning on the reverse!

123cents · April 4, 2011 9:29AM

<< Link to Ebay

Nice! What is that called? Fantasy toning.

rgCoinGuy · April 4, 2011 9:40AM

Wrapped in TP, put in a warm place.

No idea who did it, nor do I care, but I vote heat was a factor.

mingot · April 4, 2011 9:59AM

Oh, I do have a serious question.

If this was a morgan dollar would it be market acceptable toning?

OPA · April 4, 2011 10:07AM

It's a crying shame...some one ruined a perfectly good .. ah...counterfeit?...fantasy coin? ... reproduction of a "never issued coin? .... I really don't give a rats ars.

PerryHall · April 4, 2011 10:07AM

<< Wrapped in TP, put in a warm place. >>

Does TP work as well as Taco Bell Napkins? In any event, it looks MA---Market Acceptable.

SUMORADA · April 4, 2011 10:23AM

If it was in Florida, I'd say it was the water.........if it were in Key West Fl. then I would just call it FESTIVE,

Manorcourtman · April 4, 2011 10:31AM

Does it really matter if it is AT? It'll never see the light of day at NGC or PCGS anyway! I'd bet ANACS would call it AT!! No way that toned on it's own in a mere matter of months....

ecichlid · April 4, 2011 10:45AM

<< Oh, I do have a serious question.

If this was a morgan dollar would it be market acceptable toning? >>

No doubt in my mind it would be. It would go for multiples of the price sheets.

HTubbs · April 4, 2011 10:51AM

When I purchased the coin back in January it was already toned, so no, I didn't do it myself.

Yes, the price is high, but I like the coin and don't really care if it sells anytime soon. It's worth having it listed just as an attention grabber and it appears to work just as well online as it does in my showcase!

pakasmom · April 4, 2011 11:06AM

<< When I purchased the coin back in January it was already toned, so no, I didn't do it myself.

>>

Would you agree that it was "done," though?

kryptonitecomics · April 4, 2011 11:10AM

If your going to continue to sell a lot of raw AT coins folks are going to natural assume your a coin doctor...just sayin.....

pakasmom · April 4, 2011 11:17AM

Shane, you must see a lot of AT stuff... What do you do with a coin that you KNOW is not NT but you also know you can make money on?
(Serious question. Not trying to start anything.)

JupitarCoins · April 4, 2011 11:18AM

I have seen am few coins tone like that by placing on the window sill and letting the sun light get to it.

HTubbs · April 4, 2011 11:22AM

<< If your going to continue to sell a lot of raw AT coins folks are going to natural assume your a coin doctor...just sayin..... >>

Shane, I'm surprised by your comments...I don't sell very many toned coins, and I believe I only have 1 raw toner listed: a 1904 German 2 Mark. Perhaps you have my account confused with one of these jokers with the easybake ovens?

HTubbs · April 4, 2011 11:29AM

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<< When I purchased the coin back in January it was already toned, so no, I didn't do it myself.

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Would you agree that it was "done," though? >>

No not at all, the previous owner didn't have it stored correctly...

I personally like the toning, "market acceptable" or not.

Monstarcoins · April 4, 2011 11:30AM

Ill go on record saying I like the coin! If NGC or PCGS ever decided to start slabbing these fantasy pieces I would definitely buy this piece!

rgCoinGuy · April 4, 2011 11:53AM

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<< 

<< When I purchased the coin back in January it was already toned, so no, I didn't do it myself.

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Would you agree that it was "done," though? >>

No not at all, the previous owner didn't have it stored correctly...

I personally like the toning, "market acceptable" or not. >>

So toning on a coin just made in the last 6 months could be "market acceptable"? This coin was just restamped in the last (less than a year) right? How many peace dollars have color like that? Are you not seeing a problem calling this "market acceptable" since your coin seems to be 1 of 1 with this type of color?

rgCoinGuy · April 4, 2011 11:54AM

Pardon me for thinking you may be a good seller but stupid, but you do realize they didn't really make 1964 Peace dollars, right?

Monstarcoins · April 4, 2011 11:59AM

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<< When I purchased the coin back in January it was already toned, so no, I didn't do it myself.

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Would you agree that it was "done," though? >>

No not at all, the previous owner didn't have it stored correctly...

I personally like the toning, "market acceptable" or not. >>

So toning on a coin just made in the last 6 months could be "market acceptable"? This coin was just restamped in the last (less than a year) right? How many peace dollars have color like that? Are you not seeing a problem calling this "market acceptable" since your coin seems to be 1 of 1 with this type of color? >>

In all fairness I have plenty of Peace dollars that are much more colorful than the coin in discussion here. I mean to be honest the coin of discussion here isn't even colorful. No matter how it was put there it is what it is. I like it, and some wont.

rgCoinGuy · April 4, 2011 12:02PM

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So toning on a coin just made in the last 6 months could be "market acceptable"? This coin was just restamped in the last (less than a year) right? How many peace dollars have color like that? Are you not seeing a problem calling this "market acceptable" since your coin seems to be 1 of 1 with this type of color? >>

In all fairness I have plenty of Peace dollars that are much more colorful than the coin in discussion here. I mean to be honest the coin of discussion here isn't even colorful. No matter how it was put there it is what it is. I like it, and some wont. >>

So where are the marks from going through the stamping to create the fantasy coin? This isn't a peace dollar. It has been restamped. That color is less than 12 months old.

Broadstruck · April 4, 2011 12:03PM

Not sure what all the hubbub is all about as these stopped being "Coins" the second the host US Silver Peace $1 was re-struck... As it's now just Novelty Bullion.

JamesMurray · April 4, 2011 12:05PM

I guess we wont be seeing any more posts about ebay sellers with AT coins held up to ridicule and slaughter then.

Monstarcoins · April 4, 2011 12:06PM

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So toning on a coin just made in the last 6 months could be "market acceptable"? This coin was just restamped in the last (less than a year) right? How many peace dollars have color like that? Are you not seeing a problem calling this "market acceptable" since your coin seems to be 1 of 1 with this type of color? >>

In all fairness I have plenty of Peace dollars that are much more colorful than the coin in discussion here. I mean to be honest the coin of discussion here isn't even colorful. No matter how it was put there it is what it is. I like it, and some wont. >>

So where are the marks from going through the stamping to create the fantasy coin? This isn't a peace dollar. It has been restamped. That color is less than 12 months old. >>

Im confused????? What marks are you talking about?

PS silver does not need 12 months to oxidize...I think the toning on this coin was encouraged but, I do not believe it was baked in an oven or introduced to chemicals.

Swampboy · April 4, 2011 12:24PM

Selling crapola like that sure doesn't help a dealer's reputation imho.

TheBigB · April 4, 2011 1:25PM

<< or introduced to chemicals. >>

Monstarcoins · April 4, 2011 1:27PM

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<< or introduced to chemicals. >>

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Your obviously much smarter on this topic so can you please inform me how I was so blind to the fact that this coin was introduced to chemicals?

relicsncoins · April 4, 2011 1:28PM

Who cares.........It's a more or less a silver round anyway.

llafoe · April 4, 2011 1:33PM

To everyone that criticized the PNG for their inability to define coin doctoring... take a look at this thread.

Monstarcoins · April 4, 2011 2:08PM

I find it horrible that so many of you are inclined to fling dirt that is staining a mans livelihood without any type of evidence that he has done a darn thing wrong. I hope that the majority can see through this mudslinging because it is just downright wrong. Seriously folks, you are messing with a mans livelihood, Im not speaking of the $500 coin in question. I am speaking of the doubt that is being putting into folks heads about the seller that might effect the almost 500 other coins he has listed. If somebody can provide some type of evidence that this seller has committed fraud than I will be the first in line with my pitchfork, but until than I hope we all can watch what we say so this man can make a living.

Monstavet · April 4, 2011 2:48PM

I guess I am with Monstar on this...I see no attempt at deception on the part of the seller and he has a good reputation on these boards to assure that any transaction with him will go smoothly.

He isn't hyping the toning, he never calls the 'coin' anything other than what it is - a fantasy piece. What is the BFD? Lotsa folks with their thongs in a knot tonight...

coirn · April 4, 2011 3:02PM

Many collectors didn't buy these when they were first offered at about $150. a pop and are now disgruntled enough to comment negatively when they sell for triple that amount.
Sour grapes, pure and simple.

JamesMurray · April 4, 2011 3:14PM

uummm....worth pointing out it hasn't in fact sold. A swift look at page one on the BST shows multiple examples , i don't see any sold signs there either , just a whole lot of TTT's , in all fairness.

llafoe · April 4, 2011 3:27PM

<< uummm....worth pointing out it hasn't in fact sold. A swift look at page one on the BST shows multiple examples , i don't see any sold signs there either , just a whole lot of TTT's , in all fairness. >>

There's a set for $1800 listed on the BST... does anyone remember the original sales price for the 5 coins? I think it was a little over a grand? I've always liked the coins, although I'm not to fond of the fact that approximately 1,800 Peace dollars were destroyed to create this fantasy piece. The prices seem to be dropping. A whole set, in the custom holder ($100+) sold for $1,695 on eBay. That's about $1,300 net for the 5 coins. Approximately a 25% gain, not too bad, but not as good as it once was!

However, this (and two other posts) were questioning whether a coin can tone this much this quickly. As I posted above "To everyone that criticized the PNG for their inability to define coin doctoring... take a look at this thread." If we can't agree on something this current... how can we expect the PNG to define coin doctoring on coins decades, even centuries older?

JamesMurray · April 4, 2011 3:35PM

I took it as a given it's a doctored coin , there wouldn't seem to be a question of that.

Is anybody here with ShawneeCoins on Ebay?

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