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Does this silver dollar look strange to you guys?

RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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Not sure why, but it looks a little off to me.

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    lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
    Looks good to me.....from 3 blocks away...Lol
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    KaelasdadKaelasdad Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    Im not sure, all those chinese coins look the same to me.
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    adamlaneusadamlaneus Posts: 6,969 ✭✭✭
    It's cleaned or dipped. They should be darker than that.
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    FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Isn't that the clay model for the
    Reverse of the 2012 Lincoln Cent ???
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    timcointimcoin Posts: 674 ✭
    lmao. Worst fake I've ever seen. You know, someday that may be recognized as an early fake trial piece.
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    LoveMyLibertyLoveMyLiberty Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭
    Quite a coin! Just stunning!! It was in the NORAD collection
    and is now in the Pelosi Institute.
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    ModCrewmanModCrewman Posts: 4,054 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Boy, she looks grumpy.
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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    Russ, it looks "off" because it is genuine, BUT an altered date, which started out life as an 1801.image
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    garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>lmao. Worst fake I've ever seen. You know, someday that may be recognized as an early fake trial piece. >>




    LMAO too! There are so many fakes around now they should have their own category in numismatics. Besides the run of the mill fakes, we could have fake trial pieces, fake patterns, fake errors, fake varieties. We could cover the whole gamut.

    I agree, Liberty looks a bit angry in that one.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Russ, it looks "off" because it is genuine, BUT an altered date, which started out life as an 1801.image >>



    Ah, that explains it.

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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. That's atrocious. Did the Chinese put letters on the edges? Or is the only known plain-edged Class II?
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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It was probably made in Urmuqui rather than Shanghai or Beijing. I would prefer to see Miss Liberty more to the viewer's right on the obverse. I like the font used on the date, as I like the different sizes of the stars.

    This appears to be an as yet 'undiscovered' variety of the 1804. Note how close star 8 is to the Y in LIBERTY.

    Was the coin made from lead, scrap iron, or (fill in the blank)? I could see the maker of this coin being executed if it actually had any silver content.
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    57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭
    everything is spelled correctly

    has Washington's chin, though

    i saw stars like that in a Chinese restaurant
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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I buy Chinese flower pots that have better detail than that thing.
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,029 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Strange? How so? Seems that this is the majority of those minted. A few in the US and
    a few thousand in China. At least you have one of the two varieties.

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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,038 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Looks like a coin commemorating the 25th anniversary of Whitesnake.
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    garrynotgarrynot Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow. That's atrocious. Did the Chinese put letters on the edges? Or is the only known plain-edged Class II?
    Lance. >>



    Think about it, the Class II and Class III are restrikes struck without government mandate. In 1000 years the difference between 1850 and 2010 will be insignificant. This could be worth big money someday.. image
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    sTONERsTONER Posts: 1,904 ✭✭✭
    lol, looks like my ex wife after a night of her out drinking,imageimage
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    llafoellafoe Posts: 7,220 ✭✭


    << <i>Looks like a coin commemorating the 25th anniversary of Whitesnake. >>



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    SUMORADASUMORADA Posts: 4,797 ✭

    They just need to whack it a couple more times.....like this one.

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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,779 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    BillJonesBillJones Posts: 35,779 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Boy, she looks grumpy. >>



    You would be grumpy too if you that bad of fake!image
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623 ✭
    would that be a class 4 dollar?
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can anyone find and post a pic of a worse counterfeit early dollar?image

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    ColonelJessupColonelJessup Posts: 6,442 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There were an 1804 and 1805 S$1 in a Goldberg sale a few years ago. This 1804 is much higher in quality, but Goldberg's had a better provenance.

    This is a type XLIII obverse, the key diagnostic being the advanced die rust around the date. But I am confused because this is a type XXXVII reverse and there's no record of this die pairing having been produced or seen. Could it be a discovery coin!

    Perry, this is in the top 20% in quality of what I've seen. Nevertheless, I must admit I am a little bothered by the planchet flaw on the reverse too. It never hurts to be a little picky.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow. That's atrocious. Did the Chinese put letters on the edges? Or is the only known plain-edged Class II?
    Lance. >>



    Reeded edge. image

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    dizzleccdizzlecc Posts: 1,129 ✭✭✭
    Who used Aunt Esther as a model?
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    RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL! Occasionally someone calls me claiming he/she has the rare 1804 dollar which they looked up on the Internet. The person is really excited and is ready to spend the money. I always ask to be sent a picture, and it is always this "variety" of the 1804 dollar. The funniest 1804 dollar incident was when someone insisted he had TWO of the multi-million dollar coins. imageimage

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    rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always feel bad for those who get scammed by fake or worthless coins....have seen so much of that. And then they get angry with you for telling them it is fake or worthless.... People hate to be fooled, and then blame those who try to help them. Cheers, RickO
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    BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    I wonder how the Chinese would react if someone here started minting Chinese coins and selling them on Ebay?
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    pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I wonder how the Chinese would react if someone here started minting Chinese coins and selling them on Ebay? >>


    Good idea, let's try it.image
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    mcarney1173mcarney1173 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    coin looks cleanedimage
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    gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The stars are hilarious.
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    BaseballAbsBaseballAbs Posts: 2,621 ✭
    The stars are hilarious. Very Ugly mistake of a coin, what a waste of time.
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,371 ✭✭✭✭✭
    13 stars & non-crosslet 4..........that's good enough for me.

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    crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,212 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Not sure why, but it looks a little off to me.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Come on and fess up, Russ, you know very well this is a fake, right? I sure hope so!! I know a guy who bought a few of these "fake" old dollars and called me over to take a look, I sure didn't want to tell him he got RIPED, but he did and I feel bad for the guy.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Come on and fess up, Russ, you know very well this is a fake, right? >>



    It's a fake? image

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    nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Russ, it looks "off" because it is genuine, BUT an altered date, which started out life as an 1801.image >>



    Ah, that explains it.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    No doubt--altered date. But, I think maybe it started out as a 1904??imageimage
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    metalmeistermetalmeister Posts: 4,614 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Fake from far across the roomimage
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    johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 32,216 ✭✭✭✭✭
    i dunno. it looks like bogus mcgee to me
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    TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,957 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Oops, wrong post.
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I wonder how the Chinese would react if someone here started minting Chinese coins and selling them on Ebay? >>


    Good idea, let's try it.image >>

    Funny thing is, China counterfeiters mint a lot of fake Chinese coins too. It's big business.
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082 ✭
    Was it made in Colorado?
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    coinman23885coinman23885 Posts: 1,126


    << <i>Russ, it looks "off" because it is genuine, BUT an altered date, which started out life as an 1801.image >>



    ?
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    coinman23885coinman23885 Posts: 1,126


    << <i>Quite a coin! Just stunning!! It was in the NORAD collection
    and is now in the Pelosi Institute. >>



    image
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    P. Pluribus Unum is right in my book!

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