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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
    linky no worky

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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>linky no worky >>



    He has too many "http" in there. Just copy the link and paste into a new browser rather than clicking on his.
    It's just a 3rd reich coin that he has a problem with TT selling.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    seateddimeseateddime Posts: 6,180 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>linky no worky >>



    He has too many "http" in there. Just copy the link and paste into a new browser rather than clicking on his.
    It's just a 3rd reich coin that he has a problem with TT selling. >>



    "just" some of us take it very offensive
    I seldom check PM's but do check emails often jason@seated.org

    Buying top quality Seated Dimes in Gem BU and Proof.

    Buying great coins - monster eye appeal only.
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    DCAMDCAM Posts: 302 ✭✭✭
    I may have some finer, I will go and check my darkside pile of coins.

    Buy More Coins!!
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    Nazi stuff has always turned me off.image
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>linky no worky >>



    He has too many "http" in there. Just copy the link and paste into a new browser rather than clicking on his.
    It's just a 3rd reich coin that he has a problem with TT selling. >>



    "just" some of us take it very offensive >>

    Does this mean your through with PCGS as well since they graded it?
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    The name is LEE!
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    I believe these are illegal to own in Germany
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    halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭
    Even with all of it's ugliness and inhumanity, it's a part of history that should never forgotten.
    Isn't that what coin collecting is all about? JMHO

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    gecko109gecko109 Posts: 8,231
    Cant think of a more ridiculous reason to shun an auction house. You may as well be through with PCGS as well since they grade them. image
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    Are we really going to have another 'debate' about German coinage from the World War 2 era?
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    SaorAlbaSaorAlba Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I believe these are illegal to own in Germany >>



    They are NOT illegal to own in Germany, just illegal to sell in online venues etc.
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I believe these are illegal to own in Germany >>

    ANY representation of the Swastika is illegal in Germany and WILL get you arrested.

    Are you sure about that SaorAlba since I am under the impression that the Swastika was outlawed in any form in Germany?

    From this web page:

    "In Germany, a country where school children are confronted with the lessons of World War II on a regular basis and go on field trips to concentration camps, the swastika is already banned. The use of the Nazi greeting "Heil Hitler" is also against the law as is owning Adolf Hitler's ranting anti-Semitic book, "Mein Kampf." All are seen as provocative, knee-jerk symbols inappropriate for a nation trying to heal itself of past mistakes."
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



    The name is LEE!
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    airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,714 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Those who forget the past are destined to repeat it.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Are we really going to have another 'debate' about German coinage from the World War 2 era? >>




    Yep...comes around every few months. I don't agree with what was done in that period of history, but I ain't going to get on my high horse to make a big stink about the coins sold in a venue that had nothing to do with the atrocity.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    Not the coins fault if was used for nefarious purposes by evil men. A similar correlation could be drawn by our own southern gold and it's logical connection to the slave trade but that isn't what coin collecting is about. I feel coins are just a window into the past and not an endorsement, right, wrong or indifferent and while those coins were around during a dark time a lot of good came from the 30s-40's and that coin just tells its part of the story. There are no "great American" triumphs with out great obstacles.
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    derrybderryb Posts: 38,571 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm offended by coins with dead people on them.

    Government is the great fiction through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else. - Bastiat

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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


    << <i>

    << <i>I believe these are illegal to own in Germany >>

    ANY representation of the Swastika is illegal in Germany and WILL get you arrested.

    Are you sure about that SaorAlba since I am under the impression that the Swastika was outlawed in any form in Germany?

    From this web page:

    "In Germany, a country where school children are confronted with the lessons of World War II on a regular basis and go on field trips to concentration camps, the swastika is already banned.//i] The use of the Nazi greeting "Heil Hitler" is also against the law as is owning Adolf Hitler's ranting anti-Semitic book, "Mein Kampf." All are seen as provocative, knee-jerk symbols inappropriate for a nation trying to heal itself of past mistakes." >>

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    Collectibles are exempt form the anti-Nazi laws the rest is true but not heavily enforced.
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    file this under the "strange but true"... or so it seems...

    I was talking my distaste for nazi paraphenalia with a local B&M guy who also deals in all kinds of collectibles... we are both of Jewish decsent... anyway, he told me that he has has alot of collectors over the years looking for nazi stuff... coins, medals, etc... and they were all Jewish...

    go figure...image
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    The only dealer I know that regularly handles anti-Semitic material is Bill Rosenblum, who is a Judaica specialist and all-around good guy. You can read his rationale for handling such material on his website, and it's printed just before the anti-Semitic section of all his auctions. But I can't see any world coin dealers shying away from Nazi material for that specific purpose. The only reason I don't handle it more is because it's hard for me to sell, mostly because it's hard to find in nice condition. But I do handle a lot of Chinese Communist material... there's plenty of evil in history wherever you look.

    I agree with the comment on the history of southern gold too, one of the only areas of US coinage I really like.
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    LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not the coins fault if was used for nefarious purposes by evil men. A similar correlation could be drawn by our own southern gold and it's logical connection to the slave trade but that isn't what coin collecting is about. I feel coins are just a window into the past and not an endorsement, wright, wrong or indifferent and while those coins were around during a dark time a lot of good came from the 30s-40's and that coin just tells its part of the story. There are no "great American" triumphs with out great obstacles. >>



    I'll second that.
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    I don't see the outrage. If I were interested in world war 2 history, I would happily add such a coin to my collection. It's a coin, a piece of history, and owning or selling it isn't condoning the ideas of it's creators. I'm confused at were the outrage stems from.
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    lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,895 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Those who forget the past are destined to repeat it. >>

    Or is it, those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it? Either way, I'm with you.
    Lance.
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    LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I guess I better not show the German coins my father toke off his cousin when he captured him during WWII.

    Just think how much power you have right now in the design of the coins being minted today.
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    ArtistArtist Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭


    << <i>file this under the "strange but true"... or so it seems...

    I was talking my distaste for nazi paraphenalia with a local B&M guy who also deals in all kinds of collectibles... we are both of Jewish decsent... anyway, he told me that he has has alot of collectors over the years looking for nazi stuff... coins, medals, etc... and they were all Jewish...

    go figure...image >>



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    ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,740 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As a newly minted Spanish-speaking college graduate, I was off to España. General Franco was still around, and I have never seen so much Nazi parapheralia, monuments, etc. in one place before or since. There were many monuments to Nazis who died in the Spanish Civil War on streets in the major cities, a major thoroughfare in Barcelona was "Avenida de la Division Azul," etc.

    At the huge Sunday fleamarket in Madrid known as El Rastro, there were many Nazi era military ribbons and knicknacks for sale. I was familiar with the Nazi assistance to Franco, but did not get why all of the monuments and the knicknacks were still around. I supose this stuff has historical significance, but I certainly wouldn't buy any of it.

    In a related matter, references to Il Duce, the song 'Giovinezza,' etc. are officially banned in Italy, but this doesn't seem to be enforced to any extent.
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,548 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are there any auction venues out there that have never auctioned a nazi coin? Are there any coin shows that have never had a nazi coin for sale by one of its dealers? I guess seateddime won't be doing much collecting in the future.

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    droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Those who forget the past are destined to repeat it. >>



    Which is why we're constantly chasing our tails.
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    drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,053 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Since you brought it up, I wonder how people in my area justify owning Benzs’ and Beemers.
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    Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,284 ✭✭✭
    I am bothered more by the very innocent looking Swiss gold Francs. It has been reported (I believe on a History Channel show), that Swiss Francs made during WWII have high levels of mercury in them, indicating that they were probably made from dental gold removed from Jews held in concentration camps.
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,192 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>As a newly minted Spanish-speaking college graduate, I was off to España. General Franco was still around, and I have never seen so much Nazi parapheralia, monuments, etc. in one place before or since. There were many monuments to Nazis who died in the Spanish Civil War on streets in the major cities, a major thoroughfare in Barcelona was "Avenida de la Division Azul," etc.

    At the huge Sunday fleamarket in Madrid known as El Rastro, there were many Nazi era military ribbons and knicknacks for sale. I was familiar with the Nazi assistance to Franco, but did not get why all of the monuments and the knicknacks were still around. I supose this stuff has historical significance, but I certainly wouldn't buy any of it.

    In a related matter, references to Il Duce, the song 'Giovinezza,' etc. are officially banned in Italy, but this doesn't seem to be enforced to any extent. >>



    The "Division Azul" (Blue Division) was made up of Spanish volunteers and was part of the German Army (not the SS). It fought on the Eastern Front until withdrawn by Franco in 1943. It was considered to be a very high quality fighting force and its members earned many German military awards.
    That is probably why you saw so many German military items in Spain.
    All glory is fleeting.
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    Just to close the gap on the 'ww2 memorabilia in Germany' question - modern nazi items are of course banned, original ww2 era items are allowed if the swastika is covered during sale. Propaganda like "Mein Kampf" is allowed for research purposed (in archives/libraries/etc).

    It's not quite as closed off as one would believe - but the policies are very nuanced.
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    pmacpmac Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Since you brought it up, I wonder how people in my area justify owning Benzs’ and Beemers. >>


    We could also include VWs, Mitsubitshis, etc.
    Paul
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    cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 8,051 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't see the outrage. If I were interested in world war 2 history, I would happily add such a coin to my collection. It's a coin, a piece of history, and owning or selling it isn't condoning the ideas of it's creators. >>




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    I collect airship memorabilia. Once the Nazis came to power they painted swastikas on the tail fins of the Graf Zeppelin, and Hindenburg and Graf Zeppelin 2 had them when they were built. They were then used for propaganda purposes, dropping leaflets and going on publicity tours, not to mention carrying passengers to/from the US and South America. I have a lot of original photos on my wall of the Graf and Hindenburg. Sometimes, company will ask why I have them up. I tell them about Dr. Hugo Eckener, who ran the German Zeppelin company and piloted the Graf around the world in 1929. He was an outspoken critic of the Nazis, and was eventually declared a non-person by Goerbbles. The only reason he didn't die in a concentration camp is because at the time, he was one of the most famous people in the world, and Hitler would've had to explain why he disappeared. I tell them that to me, it's about the work that he did, the technological innovations, and the history of the airships. The swastika is an unfortunate part of that history, but can't simply be disregarded if one wishes to collect airship memorabilia.
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