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Updated 2-1 - Guess the grade of this Lafayette Dollar and what you see isn't necessarily what you g
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Maybe the pic makes those marks look like a bigger deal than they are. No lower than 64. 65 maybe.
That's really pretty. Out of like 35,000 or however many Lafayette dollars, it seems like about 34,000 of them just suck. This looks very nice.
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<< <i>AU-58 >>
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
I can see it in a 5 holder.
<< <i>why is that guy holding a corndog?
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<< <i>I'm just curious as to why some of you (who are way more experienced than I am) called it AU58? >>
While even the OP doesn't believe that Guess the Grade threads are viable, he still wanted our opinions.
And my opinion is AU-58 because to me the obverse looks like it has light rub on the central high points.
Am I correct? I don't know. But the OP will tell you that it's "impossible to accurately grade a coin from an image" (M. Feld)
places on the reverse.
Not familiar with the 4 varieties, but I compared it to another
example & they appear slightly different. Wonderful image.
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If I did not already know the assigned grade and were guessing the grade based on the images provided, I would guess solid MS65 with a chance at MS66.
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<< <i>I'm just curious as to why some of you (who are way more experienced than I am) called it AU58? >>
While even the OP doesn't believe that Guess the Grade threads are viable, he still wanted our opinions.
And my opinion is AU-58 because to me the obverse looks like it has light rub on the central high points.
Am I correct? I don't know. But the OP will tell you that it's "impossible to accurately grade a coin from an image" (M. Feld) >>
I think we know that we can't determine ACCURATELY the grade of a coin from a photo, but we can have fun trying to. I don't think anyone has said that we can't have fun.
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I thought there were several different positions, i.e. Duvall A, B, C, D...
<< <i><<this is not the Duvall variety......note that the olive branch ends between the zeros (date) and not between the 9 and zero (as the Duvall does)>>
I thought there were several different positions, i.e. Duvall A, B, C, D... >>
Is this the kind of information contained on CoinFacts? If it is, I may have to give it a try. I'm all about collecting books, but you just can't have a referece book for everything.
Yes and no. I doubt use coinfacts, atleast the one you have to pay monthly for. I have a ton of books I go through like a teenager and a playboy.
I highly recommend going after any books you feel like you might one day like to have. I have more coin books than I do coins at this point.
<< <i>Well....I'm not going to venture a guess as to the grade; but, NICE PICTURES, Mr. Feld! >>
Thank you, but alas, they are not mine. Dr. Mark Goodman shot them.
I was assuming that you were referring to the second set of images and not the first
Edited to say, that maybe all this thread is about is comparing the first pictures with the super pictures by Mark Goodman. Sure, who wouldn't like the coin with those beautiful pictures?
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<< <i>Those MS 64 specimans are ugly. >>
As are many, if not most other MS64's
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<< <i>Those MS 64 specimans are ugly. >>
As are many, if not most other Lafayettes >>
because it has the eye appeal of a higher graded coin
and you were able to get it at a great price???
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<< <i>I'm just curious as to why some of you (who are way more experienced than I am) called it AU58? >>
While even the OP doesn't believe that Guess the Grade threads are viable, he still wanted our opinions.
And my opinion is AU-58 because to me the obverse looks like it has light rub on the central high points.
Am I correct? I don't know. But the OP will tell you that it's "impossible to accurately grade a coin from an image" (M. Feld) >>
Stone, thanks for an explanation of your opinion. I just viewed this thread, as I do most threads, as a learning opportunity. Kaz
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As mentioned previously by various respondents, many, if not most are ugly and or fairly badly abraded. Apparently someone else liked it a lot also, as I had to pay a hefty $2990 for it. By way of comparison, here are the prices realized for the previous six NGC or PCGS MS64's sold by Heritage:
NGC MS64 $1610 Oct. 2009
NGC MS64 $2300 Oct. 2009
PCGS MS64 $2070 Sept. 2009
NGC MS64 $1667 Aug. 2009
PCGS MS64 $2070 Aug. 2009
PCGS MS64 $2415 Aug. 2009
<< <i>So, coins with the same grade are not equal, in quality and price. Coins with same grade can be double the price of each other. >>
The trouble is that most dealers will pull out the Grey Sheets or Blue Sheets to make a buy offer and the chances of getting back a big premium that was paid for a "PQ" coin is quite slim.
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<< <i>So, coins with the same grade are not equal, in quality and price. Coins with same grade can be double the price of each other. >>
The trouble is that most dealers will pull out the Grey Sheets or Blue Sheets to make a buy offer and the chances of getting back a big premium that was paid for a "PQ" coin is quite slim. >>
As you said, "most dealers", but certainly not all of them. And there is always the choice of offering such cons to other collectors and/or via public auction. I believe that the latter is, far more often than not, the best place to sell truly PQ coins.