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Coinstar Morgans....grade them

The story behind these..... I work as a cashier at a local supermarket. I was helping a customer and right in front of the Coinstar machine and noticed some people cashing in tubs of coins. Once they had completed they took the tubs and the cash voucher to my lane and started to complain that it would take them all. I cashed out their voucher and told them I would buy what they had left from my drawer.

They proceeded to dump $72 dollars in dollars and half dollars on to my register (I'm sure my eyes lit up). I cashed them out and went to break. I went to the ATM pulled out some cash and bought it all at cost.

Totals: 3 Morgans....those 2 pictured and a 1890 CC that has a beat up rim.
1 1922 peace dollar.
14 MS quality 1964 Kennedys
2 crappy 1964s
5 silver clads
and the rest newer Kennedys

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  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,179 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good Lord...that makes me wonder what coins were in the group the machine accepted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Congratulations!!! image


    STeve
  • morgansforevermorgansforever Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doesn't matter what they grade, you bought them for face.
    Nice little haul you have there. image

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  • You got a CC Morgan for face value?

    I think you suck.
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  • Did they try to put these 2 Morgans thru the coinstar machine in plastic holders???


    bet that was hard to do...
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would say congrats if you got those from the reject bin with no owner in sight, but you essentially told people, face to face, that their silver dollars and other silver pieces were worth face value. Granted they may have been willing to sell them as face when they didn't know what they were, but you clearly have the knowledge to have informed them, and instead you took advantage of them. That makes you no better than the dealers we constantly complain about for screwing grandma.

    May karma reciprocate kindness in due time.

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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,725 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Good Lord...that makes me wonder what coins were in the group the machine accepted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Congratulations!!! image


    STeve >>

    Coinstar machines won't take silver coins, spits them all out so nothing of true precious metal value. However, there may have been some good old cents or nickels.
  • Well I didn't tell them much because there lack of English...and with my lack of knowing the Spanish language I gave them what they wanted for it and I got what I wanted. I think we both left satisfied.

    I'm just curious to see what you think they grade.

    I don't really care for the grade they were a face value to me and are staying in my collection...the CC I'm only selling to buy some other coins I'm interested in....

    Here is the CC if you want to see that

  • maybe smoeone raided granmas coin stash for a junk food fix?
  • SDSportsFanSDSportsFan Posts: 5,179 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Good Lord...that makes me wonder what coins were in the group the machine accepted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Congratulations!!! image


    STeve >>

    Coinstar machines won't take silver coins, spits them all out so nothing of true precious metal value. However, there may have been some good old cents or nickels. >>




    Ahh, thank you LanLord. I did not know that, since I've never even seen a coinstar machine.


    Steve
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    HMMMM

    let me ask you, when they dumped the coins down and you spotted a 1 oz gold american eagle, would you have given this person $50 and told them thats the denomination like the back says or truthfully told them that was a 1 oz gold coin worth 1200+?????
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  • something is not right with that 80-s nor the 90 cc that you listed on ebay with lightning speed since you just got them today!

    I'm wondering...


    hmmmmmmm



    alt/troll/??????
  • Truthfully they wouldn't have understood what I told them....but my store isn't a coin shop so if they are selling they are selling at face value. I'm not one to screw people over but the fact that they were getting frustrated at me cause it wouldnt take there coins made me have no effort to attempt to find out how to tell them they are worth more money


  • << <i>something is not right with that 80-s nor the 90 cc that you listed on ebay with lightning speed since you just got them today!

    I'm wondering...


    hmmmmmmm



    alt/troll/?????? >>



    I've had these coins for a few months now the only one I got today was the dime....these coins actually resparked my interest in coins and I joined this forum and started buying coins because of these.
  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I would say congrats if you got those from the reject bin with no owner in sight, but you essentially told people, face to face, that their silver dollars and other silver pieces were worth face value. Granted they may have been willing to sell them as face when they didn't know what they were, but you clearly have the knowledge to have informed them, and instead you took advantage of them. That makes you no better than the dealers we constantly complain about for screwing grandma.

    May karma reciprocate kindness in due time. >>



    I agree.

    I would of offered a "fair" price.


  • << <i>

    << <i>I would say congrats if you got those from the reject bin with no owner in sight, but you essentially told people, face to face, that their silver dollars and other silver pieces were worth face value. Granted they may have been willing to sell them as face when they didn't know what they were, but you clearly have the knowledge to have informed them, and instead you took advantage of them. That makes you no better than the dealers we constantly complain about for screwing grandma.

    May karma reciprocate kindness in due time. >>



    I agree.

    I would of offered a "fair" price. >>



    Being a young cashier I don't get payed too well....I spent $70 on a Morgan on ebay this week and have to watch what I eat now of I will not make it through the week. If I had worthy money I would have gave it to them or atleast a better portion. I am not a bad person I am just young and poor.
  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    please answer the question I posted above. Here it is again............


    Let me ask you, when they dumped the coins down and you spotted a 1 oz gold american eagle, would you have given this person $50 and told them thats the denomination like the back says or truthfully told them that was a 1 oz gold coin worth 1200+?????


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  • PCcoinsPCcoins Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭
    Welcome to the Forums Iceman image
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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • GrumpyEdGrumpyEd Posts: 4,749 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Good Lord...that makes me wonder what coins were in the group the machine accepted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>



    I'm wondering too, maybe some non silver goodies for coinstar. image
    Ed


  • << <i>please answer the question I posted above. Here it is again............


    Let me ask you, when they dumped the coins down and you spotted a 1 oz gold american eagle, would you have given this person $50 and told them thats the denomination like the back says or truthfully told them that was a 1 oz gold coin worth 1200+????? >>



    With something like that I probably would have told them it is gold cause I know that word in spanish and then gave it back.
  • Sadly, it sounds like someone's old coin hoard was raided and dumped into the machine. It seems likely that another "collection" was raided by a relative, or stolen by thief. While it was a stroke of good luck for the purchaser of said coins, another person is almost certainly sad over their stolen hoard, that will never to be seen again.

  • mkman123mkman123 Posts: 6,849 ✭✭✭✭
    good response to my question image
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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,410 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't know a lick of Spanish, but the word for silver is "plata." Either way, even offering them $15 for the Morgans would have been fair if you had no idea what they were actually worth.
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  • << <i>I don't know a lick of Spanish, but the word for silver is "plata." Either way, even offering them $15 for the Morgans would have been fair if you had no idea what they were actually worth. >>



    I understand and at that point I didnt know the true value (this set of coins got me collecting). I didnt know there was a CC i didnt even know they were called morgans. Either way I had to pay face value for it at my register cause I couldnt buy it direct on the clock and I didnt know how to have them wait.
  • deviousdevious Posts: 1,690
    in defense of the supermarket sweeps fellow, he's made mentioned that they were grumpy, they wanted the money, but not only that, he had to get his OWN cash from the ATM and for that matter he couldn't have just handed them over 15 dollars face out of the till for 1 dollar face. He made them happy by giving them what THEY wanted. Not only that, but given the transaction and after reading about some folks selling fake morgans in california on the street, is he even sure that they are real? Whatever the case may be, I see that the OP committed no more harm than say myself ripping an ebay seller or any of the others here ripping people on some coins. You made a comparison of some dealers and the OP. Well, based on the circumstances of the OP, he did what he saw as right and there is no reason to crush him for it. There's nothing about karma even involved in his story. As an employee of a grocery store?, he did the right thing. Had he been running a store front and done it as a dealer, I would see your reason to crush him. image I guess I don't see anything wrong...other than the fact he's spending more money on coins than he should be because he's typing about how he needs to be careful on food. Haha! PRIORITIES YOUNG MAN! [to iceman] image
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>They proceeded to dump $72 dollars in dollars and half dollars on to my register... >>


    Just goes to show you can't fix stupid.

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  • RWRW Posts: 485
    If you ever find yourself as a cashier again and a Spanish speaker can not get their CC Morgans into the coinstar and you MUST help them, repeat this gringo Spanish:

    Mucho dinero por la plata. No esta una dollar. El coinos are muy oldo y consist de la plata. No esta moderno plated crapola. Oh!!! Bien! Bien! Es CC! Que? No, no, Senor...no es ChimiChanga...es Carson City. Mucho dinero, amigo!!! Andale! Andale! Vamos to el bricko y mortar shoppo por mucho dinero!!! Coinstar esta no bien...muy rip offo!
  • They wanted dollars for their dollars. They weren't there to sell coins or asking the OP what they were worth. He did nothing wrong. Sometimes money is just money.

    If you get a silver quarter in change from the guy at 7-11 are you going to give it back to him or are you going to keep it? When you get rolls of coins from the bank looking for silver do you go back to the bank and pay them the silver value of the coins you found?

    Just because someone has silver coins in their Coinstar jar doesn't mean they were stolen.

    And to call the OP a troll is shameful.
  • hammered54hammered54 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would say congrats if you got those from the reject bin with no owner in sight, but you essentially told people, face to face, that their silver dollars and other silver pieces were worth face value. Granted they may have been willing to sell them as face when they didn't know what they were, but you clearly have the knowledge to have informed them, and instead you took advantage of them. That makes you no better than the dealers we constantly complain about for screwing grandma.

    May karma reciprocate kindness in due time.[/q

    what a load of crap this is... karma..... theres no karma........... shoe on your foot...same results! ....fact.


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  • halfhunterhalfhunter Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭


    << <i>They wanted dollars for their dollars. They weren't there to sell coins or asking the OP what they were worth. He did nothing wrong. Sometimes money is just money.

    If you get a silver quarter in change from the guy at 7-11 are you going to give it back to him or are you going to keep it? When you get rolls of coins from the bank looking for silver do you go back to the bank and pay them the silver value of the coins you found?

    Just because someone has silver coins in their Coinstar jar doesn't mean they were stolen.

    And to call the OP a troll is shameful. >>



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  • TavernTreasuresTavernTreasures Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭
    Iceman.....Congratulations on the find. Apparently it sparked an interest and placed you on the road to become a coin collector.

    PS: Dont let the self righteous complainers bother you or scare you away from this forum.
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  • << <i>They wanted dollars for their dollars. They weren't there to sell coins or asking the OP what they were worth. He did nothing wrong. Sometimes money is just money.

    If you get a silver quarter in change from the guy at 7-11 are you going to give it back to him or are you going to keep it? When you get rolls of coins from the bank looking for silver do you go back to the bank and pay them the silver value of the coins you found?

    Just because someone has silver coins in their Coinstar jar doesn't mean they were stolen.

    And to call the OP a troll is shameful. >>



    This thread really makes a person think "what would I do".

    MY personal rule. Getting silver from the bank or cashier fair game. Banks do not know/care what coins they get or give out. Just as long as the amount is correct. The same with cashiers. Also the money in the till is not theirs it belongs to the business.

    If I receive money from a customer, an notice something of interest, I make a comment. Most of the time they don't care.

    Personally I would try to convey that the coins were worth more. Thought i am of Mexican descent i know very little Spanish.(Speedy Gonzales and the taco bell chihuahua were my Spanish teachers). Silver coins from the Coinstar, quaters, dimes, half-dollars, rare but happens. Morgans and Peace would cause me to call loss prevention. Have them get cameras on them before accepting them. The reason many people think they are stolen is cause every few months a news story comes out where robber cashes out some collectible coins at a store. Their is a news story about a man trying to spend a stolen gold coin at face value at a auto parts store. Unable to find it at the moment. I know it has been over more than 10 years. When I still had a 486sx/w 33mhz cpu.(with blazing fast 33.6k modem)

    2nd Edit: Also congratulations on the find. Working in retail has made me bit cynical. If the customers are not out right shop lifting. The will "miss" read signs, move signs, try to haggle, or just be plain mean.
  • He did nothing wrong


  • << <i>He did nothing wrong >>



    This is true
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    If this story is true I would wager that the OP just bought a jar full of stolen coins..

    Just give a ring to your local Police Dept and see if they have a recent report of any coins
    being stolen in a home burglary....

    Or I can do some profiling and say the woman stole them from a house she was cleaning...
  • lunytune2lunytune2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭
    IF the coinstar machine took silver it would have only gave them $1 .. it would not tell them it is worth more . image
  • OuthaulOuthaul Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sorry, but I'm with Jeremy on this one. You deserve a "You Suck." Not because of a great rip, but because of a RIP-OFF.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,903 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It wouldn't surprise me if these coins were stolen.

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  • PatchesPatches Posts: 1,700 ✭✭✭
    Agree on the stolen part, this story is just too weird. What is a Spanish family doing with 19th century coins laying around? If they've been in a family coin jar that long...chances are they've been here a long time and their English would be better.


  • << <i>They wanted dollars for their dollars. They weren't there to sell coins or asking the OP what they were worth. He did nothing wrong. Sometimes money is just money.

    If you get a silver quarter in change from the guy at 7-11 are you going to give it back to him or are you going to keep it? When you get rolls of coins from the bank looking for silver do you go back to the bank and pay them the silver value of the coins you found?

    Just because someone has silver coins in their Coinstar jar doesn't mean they were stolen.

    And to call the OP a troll is shameful. >>





    I agree. They tried to put them in the machine, which means they only wanted face value.
  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well I didn't tell them much because there lack of English... >>



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    That's classic! Perhaps you should work on your command of the English language before you condemn others.

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  • << <i>

    << <i>Well I didn't tell them much because there lack of English... >>



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    That's classic! Perhaps you should work on your command of the English language before you condemn others.

    Lane >>



    I noticed the goof up, too. Maybe while we're on the subject of language, it makes sense to slip in a little allusion, to wit: In this thread, The Iceman Cometh. I'm just waiting to see if, after this, he cometh back.
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    out how to tell them they are worth more money



    lol you are kidding right? How about handing them more money?


    Geez the stories you read online.



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  • The karma issue should not always be scoffed at.

    By not trying to convey to those people that their silver coins were worth more than face value, the cashier may have closed doors not only for those uninformed people but himself. Having been more upfront as possible could have resulted in these people bringing either similar coins in later or referring friends with other coins of possible value to the "honest" and helpful cashier.

    People place a high value on honesty and integrity when they encounter it, especially in a situation where they could have been taken advantage of easily, people may be uninformed but they usually aren't stupid.

    Who knows what possible future "scores" may have been missed for the short term gain.

    I won't both going into the lame communication issue.


  • << <i>mucho dinero por la plata. No esta una dollar. El coinos are muy oldo y consist de la plata. No esta moderno plated crapola. Oh!!! Bien! Bien! Es CC! Que? No, no, Senor...no es ChimiChanga...es Carson City. Mucho dinero, amigo!!! Andale! Andale! Vamos to el bricko y mortar shoppo por mucho dinero!!! Coinstar esta no bien...muy rip offo! >>



    You have me in tears.

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  • astroratastrorat Posts: 9,221 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>People place a high value on honesty and integrity when they encounter it, especially in a situation where they could have been taken advantage of easily, people may be uninformed but they usually aren't stupid. >>



    It seems that many people place a higher value on honesty and integrity when those traits are exhibited by the other party. Otherwise it's the other party's fault for not being knowledgeable or, heaven forbid, speaking the language clearly enough.

    You gotta love flexible morals.

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  • Iceman ........ I hope you don't let these goody two shoes get to you. Airplanenut started a bunch of C****. What a bunch of self righteous hyprocrites on this board.

    Further more, I dont' give a ratsss azz if I mispelled anything ....... and neither should you iceman.

    But yes, I agree ........ the scum of the earth stole those coins before they entered your store. They don't deserve anyone paying them anything over face for stolen coins.

  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Incredible!

    Simply Incredible!
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  • Update: Karmiclly I think I'm fine in all of the above....I am an honest person and try to make everyone happy. I did that by giving them what they wanted.

    Also working at a high theft store I know the local PD well and actually hang out with some of them. I asked one to look into the coins last night and nothing was found in the four cities around where I work.

    I'm glad to see some people are on my side of this because last night I almost deleted myself from this forum due to the mass flaming of me.

    To the people who treated me like a crook and a horrific person for doing this.... I hope you see that flaming people based on a single event and condemning them is wrong in itself. Reading a books first page doesn't tell you the story and if you base your opinions on that first page you might as well throw away the book.
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,410 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I agree. They tried to put them in the machine, which means they only wanted face value. >>

    Yes, and then they were given the chance to get more. If someone goes to a coin dealer with a proof 1895 Morgan dollar and wants $1 because that's what it says on the reverse, the dealer is scum beyond belief if he pays that. They may have wanted only the dollar, but it's a dishonest act to give it to them. I once picked up a Morgan and Peace dollar from a bank. The teller told the man to go a few blocks away to the coin shop, and he declined. Fine, he had every opportunity to make a few more dollars and chose to give the coins up at face with full knowledge and understanding of the situation. In this case, the opportunity was never provided.



    << <i>Iceman ........ I hope you don't let these goody two shoes get to you. Airplanenut started a bunch of C****. What a bunch of self righteous hyprocrites on this board. >>

    A hypocrite would say one thing and do another. If this came to me and I couldn't get out a word of Spanish (I know no part of the language) I would have either found another worker who could translate, or simply given them extra money when I paid for everything, whether they realized it or not. I'm somewhat surprised at the number of board members who have said or implied they would have done the same thing. Call me a hypocrite, call me self-righteous. I've been here long enough to establish what I would consider at stellar reputation. I wouldn't throw it away for a few bucks.
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