FIXED BST experience with two forum members

MsMorrisine · August 20, 2009 8:50AM

IF people would out others on deals gone wrong, this might work.

at the conclusion of a BST transaction, the two could rate each other a la eBay Feedback style with the two user ids in each post.

If it went well, this solution seems easy.

if it doesn't go well, I could see some poof'ed BST threads or worse, some slander or libel suits.

with the persons user id in the post, that makes it searchable. someone looking to conduct business with that user id could search for completed BST deal posts and rating.

Specific words or phrases could be included in the post to aid in the search. e.g. "transaction complete" Thus, a search on user id ABC123 "AND" "transaction complete" would pull up BST threads good, bad, or neutral

hmmmm? any opinions?

ajia · August 20, 2009 8:54AM

if it doesn't go well, I could see some poof'ed BST threads or worse, some slander or libel suits.

Reason right there why this wouldn't work.
Talk about a message board divided!

Maybe another OF site for deals made here gone bad?!

Broadstruck · August 20, 2009 9:29AM

<< I guess my deal with you stunk.....

>>

Oops I'm sorry I hadn't updated it as it looks I left 5 members off

& FWIW

You Stink Pretty!

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Swampboy · August 20, 2009 9:45AM

<< here is a simple rule that might help you out:

"deal w/ dealers"

K S >>

You may run this rule up the flag pole but I for one won't salute.

There are too many gentlemen and ladies I enjoy trading with on this fine forum for me to agree with you today. JMHO.

dorkkarl · August 20, 2009 9:51AM

<< 

<< here is a simple rule that might help you out:

"deal w/ dealers"

K S >>

You may run this rule up the flag pole but I for one won't salute.

There are too many gentlemen and ladies I enjoy trading with on this fine forum for me to agree with you today. JMHO. >>

i said, it MIGHT help you out! others never have problems, bully for them

K S

WoodenJefferson · August 20, 2009 9:51AM

<< A binding, legal contract is created when acceptance of the terms are communicated back to the offeror. This can be verbal or written. >>

Generally, oral or verbal contracts are indeed legally enforceable, but there's a fundamental problem: how do you prove what was agreed upon? (you could produce a screen shot of a PM or a copy of an e-mail, but what's to say the other person did not send yet another PM or e-mail that you are not providing or for that matter lost into cyber-space?) Extreemly hard to prove a final transaction has taken place on the BST.

That's why written contracts are far more useful, because everything's down in, well, black and white for everyone to see.

The BST is othing more than a Gentleman's agreement...take this to a court of law an see just how far you'd get.

Swampboy · August 20, 2009 9:58AM

<< 

<< 

<< here is a simple rule that might help you out:

"deal w/ dealers"

K S >>

You may run this rule up the flag pole but I for one won't salute.

There are too many gentlemen and ladies I enjoy trading with on this fine forum for me to agree with you today. JMHO. >>

i said, it MIGHT help you out! others never have problems, bully for them

K S >>

Fair enough!

touche · August 20, 2009 10:02AM

<< 

<< A binding, legal contract is created when acceptance of the terms are communicated back to the offeror. This can be verbal or written. >>

Generally, oral or verbal contracts are indeed legally enforceable, but there's a fundamental problem: how do you prove what was agreed upon? (you could produce a screen shot of a PM or a copy of an e-mail, but what's to say the other person did not send yet another PM or e-mail that you are not providing or for that matter lost into cyber-space?) Extreemly hard to prove a final transaction has taken place on the BST.

That's why written contracts are far more useful, because everything's down in, well, black and white for everyone to see.

The BST is othing more than a Gentleman's agreement...take this to a court of law an see just how far you'd get. >>

I believe if you had any legal training you would realize the bounced check is prima facie evidence of the contract. I'd get everything the contract called for.

WoodenJefferson · August 20, 2009 11:01AM

<< 

<< 

<< A binding, legal contract is created when acceptance of the terms are communicated back to the offeror. This can be verbal or written. >>

Generally, oral or verbal contracts are indeed legally enforceable, but there's a fundamental problem: how do you prove what was agreed upon? (you could produce a screen shot of a PM or a copy of an e-mail, but what's to say the other person did not send yet another PM or e-mail that you are not providing or for that matter lost into cyber-space?) Extreemly hard to prove a final transaction has taken place on the BST.

That's why written contracts are far more useful, because everything's down in, well, black and white for everyone to see.

The BST is othing more than a Gentleman's agreement...take this to a court of law an see just how far you'd get. >>

I believe if you had any legal training you would realize the bounced check is prima facie evidence of the contract. I'd get everything the contract called for. >>

Once again, was I speaking about specific instances of a transaction that the OP has previously mentioned?

NO!

Good Lord, I’m talking about generalities of a transaction on the BST forum…your legal training has lead you to focus in on one fact that I did not over look, but now your accusing me of legal ignorance which I do not appreciate one bit.

This is my last post on this thread….ya’ll can site your legal jumbo all you want, but when you come to grips with the reality of our legal system, what has occurred here is a mere pittance on the bump of a learning curve.

Bear · August 20, 2009 11:09AM

People, this is not the Harvard School of Law.

We are a coin Forum trying to resolve transactions

that have run into difficulty. Since we do not know

the facts in the two situations, it is fruitless at this

time, to try the case . I would ask the prosecutor and

defense counsel and their staffs to please stand

down.

WoodenJefferson · August 20, 2009 11:11AM

I do not appreciate being called ignorant.

Oops, one last post before council rests.

Bear · August 20, 2009 11:18AM

Jefferson , exactly what the heck is your avatar?

Looks like some kind of feathery bug.

adamlaneus · August 20, 2009 11:21AM

It's a furry lobster.

Specifically, a recently discovered species, Kiwa hirsuta

Swampboy · August 20, 2009 11:23AM

<< It's a furry lobster.

Specifically, a recently discovered species, Kiwa hirsuta >>

"yeti crab"?

Bear · August 20, 2009 11:23AM

Does it taste good?

rgCoinGuy · August 20, 2009 11:24AM

<< Does it taste good? >>

Tastes like chicken...

WoodenJefferson · August 20, 2009 11:27AM

Well, now I'm laughing again...thanks guys.

Bear · August 20, 2009 11:29AM

I find that everything tastes

like chicken but chicken.

Swampboy · August 20, 2009 11:31AM

Thanks for the heads up Rob.
I just called and canceled my upcoming Weeki Wachi River Adventure.

tander123 · August 20, 2009 12:11PM

Time to pust this thread to rest. Both members have contacted me and are working on resolving this.

bestday · August 20, 2009 1:13PM

<< 

<< I'll out myself one of them is me I think, I did say I would buy it and did sent out payment today for it with a new bank box of 2009 Cabin Lincoln Cents 50 rolls for free for the what time it took me. I wasent planing on paying that much in Income tax's 47K is a lot to get up in a short time. But I said I would buy it and I'am doing it.

>>

I really do wish you folks would learn to freakin read!!!!!!!

One of the people DID OUT THEMSELVES ALL FREAKIN READY... (I quoted it for you to read so you don't have to tire yourself out looking for the post)

Now... I feel a bit better...

Back to your continual nonsense... >>

you ain't heard of 50 lashes ???

cars · August 20, 2009 1:28PM

<< Time to pust this thread to rest. Both members have contacted me and are working on resolving this. >>

Were they angry about this thread?

Type2 · August 20, 2009 1:30PM

Thanks to all for not geting the rope out. I did not send any ck's or rec any coins I just said I would buy a coin and needed some time after I rec my tax bill I needed to hold off for some time till I got the $$$ up to buy it and now it's off to him with a freebe, Let me say If you only have 2 post it does not matter a deal is a deal go with it even if is not worth it. I am sure I'll love my new URL and that is all I have to say abought that.

adamlaneus · August 20, 2009 1:43PM

So, what did we learn here, then?

1) Patience and communication are important in a transaction.
2) Cash flow problems happen.
3) A breach of trust can permanently damage a members reputation.
4) It is important to address the situation rationally and not cause undue damage to a members reputation.
5) The forum public is ready to jump on any perceived impropriety.
6) With a lack of information, the forum members tend to generate their own.
7) It is easy to miss one post in a series of hundreds.
8) Threads can grow to almost 200 posts with very little content present.
9) When considering the trustworthiness of a CU member, posting count is all that matters.
10) Sheesh, the jokers on this forum. Enough already.

Justacommeman · August 20, 2009 1:48PM

Well done Type 2.....I would deal with you anytime. You did not have to out yourself...........

FYI- I'm surprised that anyone took the whoever has the most post count rules comment as anything but a facetious statement......The irony is that it was the most interesting part of this thread in the end............MJ

FYII- District 9 rocked

coinmanic · August 20, 2009 2:01PM

All is well that ends well.

BlindedByEgo · August 20, 2009 2:12PM

<< So, what did we learn here, then?

1) Patience and communication are important in a transaction.
2) Cash flow problems happen.
3) A breach of trust can permanently damage a members reputation.
4) It is important to address the situation rationally and not cause undue damage to a members reputation.
5) The forum public is ready to jump on any perceived impropriety.
6) With a lack of information, the forum members tend to generate their own.
7) It is easy to miss one post in a series of hundreds.
8) Threads can grow to almost 200 posts with very little content present.
9) When considering the trustworthiness of a CU member, posting count is all that matters.
10) Sheesh, the jokers on this forum. Enough already. >>

11) The great unwashed all hate attorneys... 'Til they need one.

WoodenJefferson · August 20, 2009 2:14PM

11) The great unwashed all hate attorneys... 'Til they need one.

The trick is to never let yourself get into a position where you need one.

WinPitcher · August 20, 2009 8:46PM

The BST is othing more than a Gentleman's agreement...take this to a court of law an see just how far you'd get.

That's why you need to take it ti Judge Judy.

She would get to the bottom it it.

Steve

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