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How is this Morgan $1 PR55?

BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Even if impaired it's one heck of a coin at Proof 55 based on these images.

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  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭
    Holy smokes! Mechanical error, they meant 65? The two circulated Proof Morgans I've had looked nothing like that.

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  • golfer72golfer72 Posts: 3,588
    That coin is all but perfect. 68? Where do you see this coin?
  • JSssonJSsson Posts: 891 ✭
    It is probably a mechanical error on the label.
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Given that photographic technique, any coin can be made to NOT look AU.
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  • EdscoinEdscoin Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭
    If this is the new tougher grading standard, I guess all my AU 55's are now VG 8's
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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That coin is all but perfect. 68? Where do you see this coin? >>



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  • bestmrbestmr Posts: 1,795 ✭✭✭
    I'm tempted to email for info including a price, but usually if a price isn't listed, you can't afford it. (at least me anyways)
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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,951 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is at an angle so the fields reflect. That would hide some issues but on this one it is hard to tell if it really is hiding something. Looks amazing.
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  • cinman14cinman14 Posts: 2,489 ✭
    image
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Maybe it's a listing typo and the 5 was hit twice instead of the 6 image
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  • anablepanablep Posts: 5,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice coin.
    Always looking for attractive rim toned Morgan and Peace dollars in PCGS or (older) ANA/ANACS holders!

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  • GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    typo
  • MPLunaticMPLunatic Posts: 617 ✭✭
    Hairlines people! Im pretty sure the angle it was shot hides some of the flaws on the coins surfaces pcgs isn't that tight, that said very nice strike and details
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Given that photographic technique, any coin can be made to NOT look AU. >>

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd like to see it imaged reflecting a dark (preferably black) background before commenting on the accuracy of the grade.

    Better yet, let me tilt and roll it in my fingers in the light from a pinpoint source.

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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Simple, its a proof that someone stuck in their pocket. image
  • CarlWohlforthCarlWohlforth Posts: 11,074 ✭
    I can see nothing of the fields in those photos. The fields are pure reflections of light. Sure the devices look good, but I can't see the fields! No way I'd bid on that coin given only those photos... well I'd bid somewhat higher than melt...
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  • MoonbiterMoonbiter Posts: 652 ✭✭
    If it is a 55, I'm sure it would get a gold bean and definitely be considered PQ for the grade. hehe
  • LotsoLuckLotsoLuck Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭
    That is a doctored photo, at very least a piece held at the right angle/light to hide the truth. On the worst day of a TPG they would never be that far off. Well at least not in top five image
  • hiijackerhiijacker Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭
    doctored.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,895 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Holy smokes! Mechanical error, they meant 65? The two circulated Proof Morgans I've had looked nothing like that.
    >>

    I agree, with the exception of never having owned any proof Morgans, circulated or not.

    WOW. I wasn't expecting a PR55 to look like that!

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,891 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Given that photographic technique, any coin can be made to NOT look AU. >>



    Agree. It may be heavily hairlined and the lighting angle hides the hairlines.

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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,873 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I don't think you can grade proofs by photo
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  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,329 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Typo by the seller in the listing? Straight-on lighting can hide a lot, but I think I'd see a broken cameo on the tip of the neck, eagle's breast, or rim, not to mention a mark more significant than a hairline somewhere if it is indeed a PR55.
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Given that photographic technique, any coin can be made to NOT look AU. >>



    Agree. It may be heavily hairlined and the lighting angle hides the hairlines. >>



    A hairlined coin is still uncirculated. In myopinion it should be either Genuine or PR60. --Jerry
  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Morgans come in beige?
    Lance.

    Edited to add: "Looks a lot like this one."
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  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That 'looks' like a beautiful Morgan... certainly higher than '55'... so, either a typo or photofoolery. Cheers, RickO
  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,843 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Beware!

    They can play wonderful games with phtotos these days.

    Here are two views of the same coin.

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  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    I have owned proof Morgan's in the past, and yes, the angle of the photo is everything. I would go with a doctored photo.
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • commoncents05commoncents05 Posts: 10,096 ✭✭✭


    << <i>A hairlined coin is still uncirculated. In myopinion it should be either Genuine or PR60. --Jerry >>



    Very true. True circulation is needed for anything lower than PR60.

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    oh my ??..what the..............??????????
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