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PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,806 ✭✭✭✭✭
Someone posted that they hated when dealers advertise "halfs" rather than "halves". I consider this to be his pet peeve. My pet peeve is I hate when coin collectors (who should know better) refer to cents as pennies. They are not pennies---they are cents!!!!!!!! Penny is a slang term used by the uneducated masses and coin collectors should know better than to call them pennies. O.K. What are your coin related pet peeves? Don't hold back---I know you have some.image

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  • dorkkarldorkkarl Posts: 12,691 ✭✭✭
    jabberfan

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  • Collectors who think anything modern is "junk"
  • DentuckDentuck Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭
    People who buy the book before the coin, but then don't read the book.

  • FlatwoodsFlatwoods Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭✭✭
    People that spell words incorrectly in the thread title. image
  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭

    Pet peeve? When some collectors refer to toning as "rust".




    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Someone posted that they hated when dealers advertise "halfs" rather than "halves". I consider this to be his pet peeve. My pet peeve is I hate when coin collectors (who should know better) refer to cents as pennies. They are not pennies---they are cents!!!!!!!! Penny is a slang term used by the uneducated masses and coin collectors should know better than to call them pennies. O.K. What are your coin related pet peeves? Don't hold back---I know you have some.image >>



    ........so what you're saying is, the party or parties responsible for this box label is a BLASPHEMER??image

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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    Online dealers that dont have pictures of the coins they are selling.
  • morganbarbermorganbarber Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭
    I know that everyone should collect whatever makes them happy and not worry about my lame opinion, but I hate "short sets" and "date sets". The purpose seems to be to omit the challenging material and create a "complete" set out of an incomplete set.
    I collect circulated U.S. silver
  • RTSRTS Posts: 1,408
    My pet peeve is I hate when coin collectors (who should know better) refer to cents as pennies.

    I don't consider myself a coin collector much less a numismatist (such an ostentatious word) so it's probably alright that I call cents pennies
    so I hope I get a pass....

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Online dealers that dont have pictures of the coins they are selling. >>


    Or have lousy pictures which is almost as bad!


    Buyer and seller of vintage coin boards!
  • When I walk into a coin store and the workers purposely ask the older people if they need help before me even though I was first. I may young but I am actually trying to buy from their store and they are more worried about the people selling their dad's collection, assorted spare gold bullion, or helping some old lady find the perfect ASE for her grandchild's birthday.
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  • Holder scratches! That, and receiving a coin that looks completely different than the image. Oh, and how could I not mention, when someone tells another that a certified coin they have is overgraded? Why say something like that???
  • Among others, top three TPG grading inconsistency. That's all I'm saying on the matter.image
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,806 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Another of my pet pevees are dealers that advertise coins that are P.O.R. Don't they know what they want for the coin?

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,806 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>jabberfan

    K S >>



    What's a jabberfan?image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • WalmannWalmann Posts: 2,806
    "I hate when coin collectors (who should know better) refer to cents as pennies."

    Pretty hard for me hold this against collectors when the manafactuer (The US Mint) refers to the cent as a penny mulitple times on their website.
  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,806 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Pet peeve? When some collectors refer to toning as "rust". >>



    I thought it was called "tarnish"?image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • Fingerprints. I HATE fingerprints on coins. Nothing bothers me worse than that so far in this hobby, well P.O.R. really drives me crazy too.
  • I hate a dealer at a show acts like I'm bothering them. To get back at them, I just go bother someone else with my cash.
  • jmcu12jmcu12 Posts: 2,452 ✭✭✭
    my first pet peeve is people who collect coins but don't appreciate them or the history they can represent. they sometimes are more interested in the money than the coin. shameful.

    second pet peeve - people who don't understand the meaning of rare vs scarce etc.. as well as those who take advantage of those who don't know.
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  • I hate that they put seats in front of the displays at our local shows. There's always someone with stuff spread out over half the table so I can't browse.
  • "Penny" is not slang, it comes from Great Briton.
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>When I walk into a coin store and the workers purposely ask the older people if they need help before me even though I was first. I may young but I am actually trying to buy from their store and they are more worried about the people selling their dad's collection, assorted spare gold bullion, or helping some old lady find the perfect ASE for her grandchild's birthday. >>



    ........maybe they're taking care of the 'older' people before you is because they KNOW the elderly have less time to live than you!image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • Bayard1908Bayard1908 Posts: 4,091 ✭✭✭✭
    I hate the use, and especially the overuse, of the terms PQ or Premium Quality.


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    << <i>When I walk into a coin store and the workers purposely ask the older people if they need help before me even though I was first. I may young but I am actually trying to buy from their store and they are more worried about the people selling their dad's collection, assorted spare gold bullion, or helping some old lady find the perfect ASE for her grandchild's birthday. >>



    ........maybe they're taking care of the 'older' people before you is because they KNOW the elderly have less time to live than you!image >>



    Well put but I'm pretty sure I've had to wait long enough to watch her ASE tone.
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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My pet peeve: When I have money, I can't find the coins; but I when I have no money, coins are falling out of the woodwork

    Maybe that's more of a personal financial crisis than a pet peeve, but it still peeves me
  • EagleguyEagleguy Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Online dealers that dont have pictures of the coins they are selling. >>


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  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    ........mine is when a collector gets upset with someone that thinks of CAC as a 'referee' of sorts on a grading company.
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • GeminiGemini Posts: 3,085


    << <i>Someone posted that they hated when dealers advertise "halfs" rather than "halves". I consider this to be his pet peeve. My pet peeve is I hate when coin collectors (who should know better) refer to cents as pennies. They are not pennies---they are cents!!!!!!!! Penny is a slang term used by the uneducated masses and coin collectors should know better than to call them pennies. O.K. What are your coin related pet peeves? Don't hold back---I know you have some.image >>



    I am the same on this Perry when I hear the word pennies you might as well say panties!!! We threw the English out a long time ago and the English don't call their coins cents. Get with the program you panty waist collectors. image
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  • ElKevvoElKevvo Posts: 4,136 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I find complete harmony in my coin collecting endeavors so I don't have any issues other than the ones already mentioned here plus a bunch of things not mentioned. Thank you for the opportunity to post my numismatic pet peeves if I had any though.

    K
    ANA LM
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I get mad at me often times image
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>When I walk into a coin store and the workers purposely ask the older people if they need help before me even though I was first. I may young but I am actually trying to buy from their store and they are more worried about the people selling their dad's collection, assorted spare gold bullion, or helping some old lady find the perfect ASE for her grandchild's birthday. >>



    ........maybe they're taking care of the 'older' people before you is because they KNOW the elderly have less time to live than you!image >>



    Well put but I'm pretty sure I've had to wait long enough to watch her ASE tone. >>




    .........image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    .......i think this qualifies as a coin related 'pet peeve' i hate it when my coin world, or coinage, or NN magazine arrives torn and looking like it was used as a door mat by the post office! WHY CAN'T THEY SHIP THE MAG IN PLASTIC???

    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington
  • BcsicanBcsican Posts: 1,068


    << <i>Online dealers that dont have pictures of the coins they are selling. >> >>



    Dealers on the CU Collectors corner w/no pics WTF!!!

    Or when asking for a picture they act like it is rocket science
    to send it to you...just post the damn pictures!!!!


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  • BBNBBN Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭
    I get annoyed by people who talk down about people that participate in the registry partly in the spirit of competition. I love coins, but I can't zero in on one type so I'm a type collector. I go for highest grade affordable for two reasons. First because I just want a nice looking type set and second I love climbing the ranks. My abdominal aneuyrsm prevents me from ever powerlifting and playing softball again, but the competitive juices never dried. I saw one poster here say that he thinks that competition is just act by people who aren't fully evolved that must feed this evolutionary instinct. Something to that effect.image

    Oh, also a local B&M guy. He had a raw Early dollar that looked around VG10. It was in some presentaion case "America's Fist Dollar". I asked him the price of it and he said "Oh, you'll never afford that." I let that slide. It was a comment few weeks later when I decided to never go back there. I was looking around and asked about a 1909-s VDB cent. He looked at me and said "like you've really got the money for that?" and then he and a customer/buddy of his busted out laughing. I didn't go back until last year which was 7-8 years later. I walked into the store had cash in hand and told him I was there to make a slabbed Saint purchase and you would have thought that I was his best friend.

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  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,806 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>"Penny" is not slang, it comes from Great Briton. >>



    It's slang when it's used to describe an American cent. Calling a "dollar" a "buck" doesn't bother me though.image

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,806 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>image >>



    If your pet peeve is that PCGS doesn't state the problem on the label of their genuine holder, then I agree with you.




    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,806 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Two of my other pet peeves:
    Debris inside slabs---especially hair and food. What's with that? No quality control?
    Milk spots on ASE's.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
    "Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
    "Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire

  • savoyspecialsavoyspecial Posts: 7,310 ✭✭✭✭
    granted you dont see this much anymore, but if you search older dealer ads you will find dealers looking for <insert certain coin here> in "Proof Condition"

    proof is not a condition

    www.brunkauctions.com

  • CoinRaritiesOnlineCoinRaritiesOnline Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Online dealers that dont have pictures of the coins they are selling. >> >>



    Dealers on the CU Collectors corner w/no pics WTF!!!

    Or when asking for a picture they act like it is rocket science
    to send it to you...just post the damn pictures!!!!


    image >>



    The dealers who do that oftentimes do not own (or even have possession of) the coins.

    When you ask for a photo (if you were the first one to do so) they have to go to the real owner to ask them to scan their coin. Then the CU dealer will forward it on to you.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,564 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perry, my pet peeve is more about not looking with proper lighting beyond the fields, and strike detail.

    I think the color "purple" probably is an indicator that the coin has seen some type of solution which isn't "natural", but I do not know for sure. The pet peeve is with myself, honestly. image

    image
    This is a close up of the reverse of the coin , with a flash. I should have looked closer before submitting. Still, with a mintage of 416,000 , it is safe where it sits...
    the #92 in the slab is a code for cleaning.
  • Major pet peeve for e-bayers photoshoping the coins to hide imperfections......I like imperfections and to know what Im getting.

    Next pet peeve overgrading a coin and expecting to get a high price for raw coins.

    Never finding the coin you want and then when you do you don't have the money with you and it's sold by the time you get back.
  • BcsicanBcsican Posts: 1,068


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    The dealers who do that often times do not own (or even have possession of) the coins.

    When you ask for a photo (if you were the first one to do so) they have to go to the real owner to ask them to scan their coin. Then the CU dealer will forward it on to you. >>



    Would be easy posting a pic the first time around, build a web site,
    seems like too many steps and time just to get a picture,
    there is one CC dealer that has a lot of inventory would
    love viewing on line without having to go through so
    many e-mails just to see some of the coins...look at the
    Collectors Corner under Franklin halves..."Andrew"
    ton of coins but a real pain trying to see most of them...
    their e-mail response has gotten much better but the
    advantage of on line shopping is looking at easy to see pics,
    then ask questions...no pics have to ask too many questions
    just to see some coins...then wait days for a response...
    Even if they dont own the coin an on hand pic makes all the
    difference in the world...


  • rickoricko Posts: 98,724 ✭✭✭✭✭
    People who pay money to TPG's then criticize the results. Just stop submitting - if you know so frikken much, slab them yourself. Cheers, RickO
  • Having to pay more than face value for a coin image


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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,233 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Annoying dealers.
  • What are your numismatic / coin related pet peeves?

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,961 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here's a top ten list, ala Letterman. Did this on the fly so apologies if your favorites aren't included.

    Top ten dealer pet peeves:

    10. People who think that all dealers are inherently shady, and no matter what they quote, it's too high, no matter what they offer, it's not enough.

    9. People who think that buying two of something is a wholesale purchase deserving of a steep discount.

    8. People who think that carrying around a photocopy of someone else's month old Greysheet makes them a dealer too.

    7. Buyers who think that having a wad of cash in their pocket is supposed to turn a seller into a drooling retard who will sell everything at stupidly low prices.

    6. People who think that a $100 item is worth $250 just because they've owned it for XX years.

    5. People who think that everything in a slab is carved in stone, and never wrong (unless they want to buy it, natch)

    4. People who tell stories about how they had "time to kill" so they went to the local coin shop and spent 2 hours asking questions and picking through junk boxes, 90% silver, and stock trying to catch the seller sleeping on varieties or underpriced items, but they couldn't find any... and left without buying anything. And they can't figure out why the dealer's miffed.

    3. The same person in the example #4 above who comes in the next Monday wanting the dealer to tell him if he got a good deal on all the coins he bought at the coin show that weekend.

    2. The same person in the example #4 above who complains that his local dealer went out of business, and can't figure out why.

    1. People who can't grasp the concept that dealers are human beings whose business, overhead, investment, and time all have value.

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  • sumnomsumnom Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭
    OK, I have to say this. It annoys me when people refer to Philadelphia issues with no mint mark as "date-P."

    Example:

    1970-P dime.

    If it doesn't have a P it doesn't have a P.

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