I hate scrolling auction records and the highest price paid for a coin is PCGS/CAC that is the ugliest coin I can see in all the records for that date/mintmark grade.
LOL, seriously, this hobby has that many mindless lemmings?
I confess I did that once (put faith in CAC that the coin would be really nice) and was not happy with the results.
Then I tried it again for a mediocre CAC coin as an upgrade that sold for below retail to better understand what they saw in that coin. It had extensive spotting and evidence of wiping in the past, but it had a nice strike and greater than AU50 details. CAC probably liked it for being undergraded in terms of wear and having nice amber toning over the calico toning. It got a green bean, but it didn't receive a "Barberian silver mace" sticker.
I concluded that CAC is fine, but I'd better like the coin or I'll be at least somewhat disappointed.
While I really enjoy setting up at shows (one of the last bastions of free enterprise) -
No use for - People who won’t pay the money, looky looks (tire kickers), another dealer (big gun well known guy) coming up to my table trying low ball me with his know it all phony spiel (told him go find one), waste of time shows where people coming in broke, people who spend time looking thru my junk box stuff that don’t buy anything, this whiny “dont you sell at bid” pathetic loser rip off guy that seemed to infest this one show, nit wits trying talk me down on sale material (at bare bones markup), this one little know it all d bag collector quoting what price another dealer had on his piece (lower quality than mine) trying get a rip (stuffed him in the backfield lol).
I think that the reason “halves” is not used by some of us and looks odd to others, including me, is that the word “half” is processed as shorthand for “half dollar”. So, “half” is an adjective in that context, not a noun. So the brain returns “halves dollars” which doesn’t sound right. Just say “half dollars” and everyone is happy.
Cheapskate offers is another one. For example, I have a PCGS graded coin on eBay for $3800. The PCGS price guide lists it at $4000. Someone made me an offer of $1000???? Really?? I do not even respond to this kind of offer. Waste of time.
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Cheapskate offers is another one. For example, I have a PCGS graded coin on eBay for $3800. The PCGS price guide lists it at $4000. Someone made me an offer of $1000???? Really?? I do not even respond to this kind of offer. Waste of time.
@rec78 said:
Cheapskate offers is another one. For example, I have a PCGS graded coin on eBay for $3800. The PCGS price guide lists it at $4000. Someone made me an offer of $1000???? Really?? I do not even respond to this kind of offer. Waste of time.
Those are an outright insult. I get the argument that "there's no harm" making an offer and sometimes you might get lucky, but if you look deeper, it's an outright insult that says the seller is completely incompetent as far as pricing coins and further, that the seller is too stupid or desperate to sell it wholesale to another dealer or just auction it $1 no-reserve and almost certainly realize a higher price.
As noted, you can auto-reject those, but it's probably a good idea to block those people who you really don't want to have as customers anyway.
I asked him the price of it and he said "Oh, you'll never afford that." I let that slide. It was a comment few weeks later when I decided to never go back there. I was looking around and asked about a 1909-s VDB cent. He looked at me and said "like you've really got the money for that?" and then he and a customer/buddy of his busted out laughing.
The moment has arrived for me to flash my fake roll when I get this kind of comment directed at me at a show. The roll appears to be comprised entirely of $100 bills and is at least 1/2 inch thick.
UPDATE: Using a genuine $100 bill from the roll make a purchase for $5 or so from the smartass dealer and then complain when your change doesn't include a $50 bill.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
To expand on that, the opinion of some that EVERY coin with the sticker is properly graded for the grade. Conversely the opinion that every coin without the sticker is second class. I heard this opinion pushed at a FUN seminar which was conduced by three prominent dealers. I had to work to hold my tongue.
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When a listing has meaningless phrases like "From original collection" in it. OK, just exactly what does "From original collection" mean? Anyone can put this phrase in their listings. Perhaps the seller thinks it makes the coin more valuable.
Or "from estate". Aren't all coins from an estate?
While shopping at the last show, I saw a very nice blazing BU 32 Washington. It had a sticker which said $100 on it. When I asked for his best price, he picked it up and examined it. Then he picked up a price guide and 2 or 3 minutes later he says $238. No joke.
I couldn't help asking him why the huge change. He pointed at a sign that was taped to the table: "All prices subject to change". I thanked him and moved on down the aisle.
Other than having Champagne taste on a Beer budget... my biggest pet peeve is probably deceptive photography. In a first for me... I sent two coins back last year because the lighting, color compensation, and/or camera angle covered up significant hits or potential damage. Both were certified coins. The one that springs to mind was an 1882(?) CC Morgan Dollar MS63DMPL... I should have known better as the color was clearly jacked up post-imaging concealing excessive. The latest was an XF-AU 1909 IHC... not huge sums of money by any stretch, but the image angle concealed a huge scratch just in front of Liberty's face. I actually kept this coin... for just over $10, I now have a reminder of why I don't buy anything on ebay any more...
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I haven't read all the responses, and wouldn't be surprised if this has been mentioned before, but it always bugs me whenever someone sells something and replaces the asking price with sold. It's no harder to change the title to sold while keeping the contents the same.
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I confess I did that once (put faith in CAC that the coin would be really nice) and was not happy with the results.
Then I tried it again for a mediocre CAC coin as an upgrade that sold for below retail to better understand what they saw in that coin. It had extensive spotting and evidence of wiping in the past, but it had a nice strike and greater than AU50 details. CAC probably liked it for being undergraded in terms of wear and having nice amber toning over the calico toning. It got a green bean, but it didn't receive a "Barberian silver mace" sticker.
I concluded that CAC is fine, but I'd better like the coin or I'll be at least somewhat disappointed.
My position is that it's my coin until someone gives me the amount of money I want for it.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
While I really enjoy setting up at shows (one of the last bastions of free enterprise) -
No use for - People who won’t pay the money, looky looks (tire kickers), another dealer (big gun well known guy) coming up to my table trying low ball me with his know it all phony spiel (told him go find one), waste of time shows where people coming in broke, people who spend time looking thru my junk box stuff that don’t buy anything, this whiny “dont you sell at bid” pathetic loser rip off guy that seemed to infest this one show, nit wits trying talk me down on sale material (at bare bones markup), this one little know it all d bag collector quoting what price another dealer had on his piece (lower quality than mine) trying get a rip (stuffed him in the backfield lol).
Going to a show and a collector is sitting at a table with all his junk sprawled out blocking the dealers case.
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I think that the reason “halves” is not used by some of us and looks odd to others, including me, is that the word “half” is processed as shorthand for “half dollar”. So, “half” is an adjective in that context, not a noun. So the brain returns “halves dollars” which doesn’t sound right. Just say “half dollars” and everyone is happy.
Cheapskate offers is another one. For example, I have a PCGS graded coin on eBay for $3800. The PCGS price guide lists it at $4000. Someone made me an offer of $1000???? Really?? I do not even respond to this kind of offer. Waste of time.
You can auto-reject those.
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Those are an outright insult. I get the argument that "there's no harm" making an offer and sometimes you might get lucky, but if you look deeper, it's an outright insult that says the seller is completely incompetent as far as pricing coins and further, that the seller is too stupid or desperate to sell it wholesale to another dealer or just auction it $1 no-reserve and almost certainly realize a higher price.
As noted, you can auto-reject those, but it's probably a good idea to block those people who you really don't want to have as customers anyway.
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I've been tempted to holler out "Junk Patrol! Table number (put table # here)!" when I see this kind of thing at a show.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
No way.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
Make the acronymite explain what their acronym means and really torque their jaws.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
I asked him the price of it and he said "Oh, you'll never afford that." I let that slide. It was a comment few weeks later when I decided to never go back there. I was looking around and asked about a 1909-s VDB cent. He looked at me and said "like you've really got the money for that?" and then he and a customer/buddy of his busted out laughing.
The moment has arrived for me to flash my fake roll when I get this kind of comment directed at me at a show. The roll appears to be comprised entirely of $100 bills and is at least 1/2 inch thick.
UPDATE: Using a genuine $100 bill from the roll make a purchase for $5 or so from the smartass dealer and then complain when your change doesn't include a $50 bill.
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
To expand on that, the opinion of some that EVERY coin with the sticker is properly graded for the grade. Conversely the opinion that every coin without the sticker is second class. I heard this opinion pushed at a FUN seminar which was conduced by three prominent dealers. I had to work to hold my tongue.
When a listing has meaningless phrases like "From original collection" in it. OK, just exactly what does "From original collection" mean? Anyone can put this phrase in their listings. Perhaps the seller thinks it makes the coin more valuable.
Or "from estate". Aren't all coins from an estate?
While shopping at the last show, I saw a very nice blazing BU 32 Washington. It had a sticker which said $100 on it. When I asked for his best price, he picked it up and examined it. Then he picked up a price guide and 2 or 3 minutes later he says $238. No joke.
I couldn't help asking him why the huge change. He pointed at a sign that was taped to the table: "All prices subject to change". I thanked him and moved on down the aisle.
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Other than having Champagne taste on a Beer budget... my biggest pet peeve is probably deceptive photography. In a first for me... I sent two coins back last year because the lighting, color compensation, and/or camera angle covered up significant hits or potential damage. Both were certified coins. The one that springs to mind was an 1882(?) CC Morgan Dollar MS63DMPL... I should have known better as the color was clearly jacked up post-imaging concealing excessive. The latest was an XF-AU 1909 IHC... not huge sums of money by any stretch, but the image angle concealed a huge scratch just in front of Liberty's face. I actually kept this coin... for just over $10, I now have a reminder of why I don't buy anything on ebay any more...
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I haven't read all the responses, and wouldn't be surprised if this has been mentioned before, but it always bugs me whenever someone sells something and replaces the asking price with sold. It's no harder to change the title to sold while keeping the contents the same.
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