The OFFICIAL 2009 Topps Heritage Thread

Knopfler · March 6, 2009 11:22PM

First box of the second case was a little more as expected. 3 chromes and 2 refractors. Pulled this:

ssdawg77 · March 6, 2009 11:26PM

Prices are now up now for some portions of this produst on Beckett,com. They do not have the Winn/Lewis variation listed as of yet.

DavidPuddy · March 6, 2009 11:27PM

Dick Grey: 124 games played, .239 BA.

Thanks Topps.

Knopfler · March 6, 2009 11:39PM

Box 2:

zep33 · March 6, 2009 11:43PM

you got a couple of hot cases there - very nice stuff

TNP777 · March 6, 2009 11:46PM

Chris is killing the Dodger blacks! That Kershaw is very nice.

ssdawg77 · March 6, 2009 11:53PM

If anyone can help me with these I would greatly appreciate it.

453 Ryan Dempster
NAP1 David Wright
NAP11 Cole Hamels
NAP15 Evan Longoria
NF10 Polaris Missle
TN3 Minnie Minoso
C1 Manny Ramirez
C2 Andre Ethier
C12 David Price
C15 Mark Teixeira
C19 Johnny Cueto
C25 Scott Kazmir
C29 Rick Ankiel
C38 Justin Upton
C45 Hanley Ramirez
C53 Miguel Cabrera
C59 Andy Pettitte
C61 Vernon Wells
C67 Edinson Volquez
C68 Phil Hughes
C78 Kila Ka'aihue
C96 Xavier Nady
C97 Max Scherzer
C98 Hiroki Kuroda
C100 Alex Rodriguez

Thanks
Stoney

zep33 · March 7, 2009 12:04AM

box 7

8 SPs
5 chrome
2 ref
GU - Bobby Richardson seat

Knopfler · March 7, 2009 12:13AM

Box 2:

8 SP's
7 Inserts
2 Refractors
0 Chrome
Black Kershaw

Knopfler · March 7, 2009 12:17AM

Box 3 (Case #2)

7 SP's
1 Blank Card (with the same back color as the SP's

)
7 Inserts
3 Refractors
0 Chrome
1 CC
and ...

zep33 · March 7, 2009 12:20AM

box 8

8 SPs
4 Chrome
1 ref - Reyes
GU - Baldelli
Buyback - Jim Coates - Yankees

zep33 · March 7, 2009 12:33AM

box 9

8 SPs
4 chrome
1 ref - Burrell
1 black - Alex Rios
GU - Suzuki

Knopfler · March 7, 2009 12:37AM

Box 4 (Case #2)

8 SP's
7 Inserts
3 Refractors
0 Chrome

brian26 · March 7, 2009 12:44AM

<< Looking at Chris' (Knopfler's) results from his first case got me to theorizing how that zero chrome collation could have happened. Obviously I have no working knowledge of how Topps' machines actually work, but what if there were settings that had to be set manually at the start of the pack insertion process, and one of the workers set the settings wrong and mixed up the pack insertion ratio's for chrome, refractor and black refractor? Here's what I mean:

The correct ratio of chromes was pulled by Chris, but as refractors.
The correct ratio of refractors was pulled by Chris, but as black refractors.
The correct ratio of black refractors was pulled by Chris, but as chromes.

Probably not an accurate theory, but it's plausible. >>

Very plausible.

Also, think about this- there are 600 black refractors in existence right now (100*60). Knopfler pulled 4 of them in one case, which is just under 1% of them. That's amazing when you consider how many retail cases must exist (HAS to be more than 100). That was an unbelievable case.

TNP777 · March 7, 2009 1:22AM

<< 

<< Looking at Chris' (Knopfler's) results from his first case got me to theorizing how that zero chrome collation could have happened. Obviously I have no working knowledge of how Topps' machines actually work, but what if there were settings that had to be set manually at the start of the pack insertion process, and one of the workers set the settings wrong and mixed up the pack insertion ratio's for chrome, refractor and black refractor? Here's what I mean:

The correct ratio of chromes was pulled by Chris, but as refractors.
The correct ratio of refractors was pulled by Chris, but as black refractors.
The correct ratio of black refractors was pulled by Chris, but as chromes.

Probably not an accurate theory, but it's plausible. >>

Very plausible.

Also, think about this- there are 600 black refractors in existence right now (100*60). Knopfler pulled 4 of them in one case, which is just under 1% of them. That's amazing when you consider how many retail cases must exist (HAS to be more than 100). That was an unbelievable case. >>

Case #2 ain't too shabby, either. Two red autos and a black refractor Dodger is pretty darn good.

alifaxwa2 · March 7, 2009 1:28AM

<< 
Very plausible.

Also, think about this- there are 600 black refractors in existence right now (100*60). Knopfler pulled 4 of them in one case, which is just under 1% of them. That's amazing when you consider how many retail cases must exist (HAS to be more than 100). That was an unbelievable case. >>

100*60 is 6000

Knopfler · March 7, 2009 1:35AM

FYI --

The last four boxes from case #2 will have to wait until after I substitute coach a double header of five year soccer games!

heritage · March 7, 2009 1:39AM

Tonight I can rip my first box's.
I only have 6 Hobby for now but it should be fun.

DavidPuddy · March 7, 2009 2:15AM

I have no product, so it looks like I have to make my own.
Preview 2035 Topps Heritage.

five7teen · March 7, 2009 3:18AM

That's a good looking Knicely card - I'm sure Kevin is already thinking about adding that one to his collection.

My second box yielded nothing of note, but I just pulled a Carmona red auto in Box #3...

joestalin · March 7, 2009 5:14AM

It would of been nice to have Sparky or Frank Howard to this years heritage, but I guess we will have to collect what we can. I actual like the
dual CC's this year and hope I pull one...Arod/Mantle would be nice.

I think Chris is this year's Zep. Even if he just sells the "partial" refractor set and keeps the blacks, he will have done very well.

Tomorrow Ill be at the Braves/Phillies game in Orlando, Im hoping to get some heritage signed!

Kevin

fattymacs · March 7, 2009 5:19AM

No Heritage at Wal-Mart in NW Ohio, anyone seen any Blasters yet?

parkerj · March 7, 2009 6:11AM

i pulled a THOM glavine out of a retail case...so there's hope for us retail rippers!

tiller · March 7, 2009 6:29AM

Just opened my first box. Hobby.
SPs- 8
Chrome- 5
Refractor-2
News FB- 2
BB FB-2
T&N-2
NAP-2
Box topper- Panel-Anderson,Backe,Choo.
No original.
Clubhouse Collection- J.D.Drew. Jersey.
5 more boxes to go. Dave.

five7teen · March 7, 2009 6:33AM

Is it just me, or is the gum in this stuff the worst gum ever produced? Bleck.

Knopfler · March 7, 2009 7:00AM

<< Is it just me, or is the gum in this stuff the worst gum ever produced? Bleck. >>

This gum is just a little better than the '08 High Numbers gum.

Box 5 (Case #2)
8 SP's
7 Inserts
0 Refractors
3 Chrome
1 CC Buchholz

Knopfler · March 7, 2009 7:10AM

Box 6 (Case #2)
8 SP's
8 Inserts
4 Refractors
0 Chrome

parker95 · March 7, 2009 7:10AM

Well, it is now case ripping time! I have two retail cases (8 boxes / 24 packs / 8 cards per pack) and I am ready to RIP!!!!

Hop on the HERITAGE EXPRESS!! ALL ABOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is time to get this train moving.....

Craig in Texas

ArchStanton · March 7, 2009 7:20AM

Craig, it has been five minutes. How about some scans already?

parker95 · March 7, 2009 7:23AM

Here is the first stop along the HERITAGE EXPRESS!!!

Case 1; Box 1 -

SP - 8
BF - 2
TN - 2
NAP - 2
NF - 1
Chrome - 0
Chrome Refractors - 4
Clubhouse Collection - Dan Uggla

I will get scans of the best cards on at the end of the train ride!!!!

Craig in Texas

Knopfler · March 7, 2009 7:25AM

Oh, by the way my retail cases came from Lockwood. I know I saw on there that at least one other person ordered retail cases from Lockwood. It will be interesting to compare the Lockwood cases to other sources.

Box 7 (Case #2)
8 SP's
8 Inserts
1 Refractors
2 Chrome

RipublicaninMass · March 7, 2009 7:28AM

I did it, just bought a hobby box @ $80

joestalin · March 7, 2009 7:30AM

<< I did it, just bought a hobby box @ $80 >>

Good Luck and welcome back!

Kevin

parker95 · March 7, 2009 7:30AM

Knopfler, I got mine from Lockwood.....

Case 1; Box 2 -

SP - 9
BF - 2
TN - 2
NAP - 2
NF - 1
Chrome - 2 (one Griffey!)
Chrome Refractors - 1

Craig in Texas

parker95 · March 7, 2009 7:41AM

Case 1; Box 3 -

SP - 8
BF - 2
TN - 2
NAP - 1
NF - 2
Chrome - 0
Chrome Refractors - 2

AND....

I could not wait to post a pic of this!!!! 44/60!!

Craig in Texas

Knopfler · March 7, 2009 7:46AM

Sweet pull parker, and from a Lockwood case. Hmmm.

Last box from case #2:

Box 8 (Case #2)
8 SP's
5 Inserts
1 Refractors
2 Chrome

Case Two Totals:
61 SP's
56 Inserts
16 Refractors
10 Chrome
1 Black Refractor
2 Red Autos

justmichael · March 7, 2009 7:50AM

Nice pulls fellas.For future reference who is Lockwood?
Mike

parker95 · March 7, 2009 7:51AM

Case 1; Box 4 -

SP - 8
BF - 2
TN - 2
NAP - 2
NF - 3
Chrome - 0
Chrome Refractors - 3

I am experiencing the weird chrome phenomenon as you Knopfler!

Craig in Texas

Knopfler · March 7, 2009 8:00AM

<< Nice pulls fellas.For future reference who is Lockwood?
Mike >>

Lockwood is Jack Lockwood. I guess he is a distributer, sells lots of new cases. Sells them on ebay, not sure if he has a website or not.

Just sorted my SP's, missing 8. I'm sure one was that blank card!

parker95 · March 7, 2009 8:06AM

Case 1; Box 5 -

SP - 8
BF - 2
TN - 1
NAP - 0
NF - 2
Chrome - 2
Chrome Refractors - 0

AND.......

This is great! Numbered 08/60!!

Craig in Texas

MuckyMutt · March 7, 2009 8:10AM

<< Is it just me, or is the gum in this stuff the worst gum ever produced? Bleck. >>

Read the back of the pack - the gum is made in CHINA! It is probably laced with melamine.
Stay far away from it!!!

parker95 · March 7, 2009 8:20AM

Case 1; Box 6 -

SP - 7
BF - 2
TN - 2
NAP - 1
NF - 0
Chrome - 0
Chrome Refractors - 3

AND.......

42/60!! I also got one out of a hobby box last week that is 05/60. I can not believe the way these BLACKS are falling! Nick, your theory is right!!

Unfortunately, I must go for now. I have a dinner and a movie to go to. I will continue when I can!

Craig in Texas

tiller · March 7, 2009 8:33AM

Box # 2 Hobby
SPs 8
chrome-5
ref.-1
news FB-2
BBFB-2
T&N-1
NAP-1
Clubhouse collection-1 Kevin Mench jersey.
Box topper panel-Gonzalez,Leblanc,Inge.
Buy Back- # 146-Ted Wieand.
4 more to go. Want to make them last. Wait til tomorrow to open the next one. Dave.

Knopfler · March 7, 2009 8:34AM

<< Unfortunately, I must go for now. I have a dinner and a movie to go to. I will continue when I can!

Craig in Texas >>

Parker, that is crazy! Since you are on your way out anyway, you should do what I did this morning--pick up a couple of Lotto tix. See how far this streak can run!

LJB17 · March 7, 2009 8:49AM

When does Target get their boxes. I am ready to go.

heritage · March 7, 2009 10:02AM

I opened my first Box I hit
8 sp
4 crome
1 Ref
1 game used (Manny Ramriez)

RipublicaninMass · March 7, 2009 10:13AM

Could I get the Sp/var list?

Also hit a ton of chromes
7 chromes
1 refractor Berkman

justmichael · March 7, 2009 10:22AM

The SP's are 426-500.
Mike

86nova · March 7, 2009 11:11AM

To; Craig in Texas:

Dinner and a movie??? You can't be serious.

Craig in Ohio

gopokes99 · March 7, 2009 11:37AM

I have a Lockwood retail case that arrived last night....

Box 1:
8 SPs
2 Flashbacks
2 News Flashbacks
2 T&Ns
2 NAPs
2 Chromes (R. Johnson, Soriano)
1 Clubhouse Collection (Maybin)

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