EBay! Huh! Good God, y'all! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing, huh! Say it again!

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 9:53AM

So I spent most of my day negotiating with 2 Non Paying Bidders, to make them understand it's a Binding Contract and they need to follow through!

ricko · July 30, 2008 9:55AM

And when it was over, did they understand? Or did you send Guido to visit them?

Cheers, RickO

mrearlygold · July 30, 2008 9:57AM

"Understand"? "Take Responsibility"?

Ha!

storm888 · July 30, 2008 9:58AM

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 9:59AM

<< And when it was over, did they understand? Or did you send Guido to visit them?

Cheers, RickO >>

The 2 sales total over $9K so there's room to hire Guido and his cousins.

One buyer is trying to negotiate a better deal after I accepted his offer...

at first tells me he doesn't have the money and he's sorry, but if I can sharpen my pencil even more he will scratch it together!

copperfan · July 30, 2008 10:00AM

<< but if I can sharpen my pencil even more he will scratch it together! >>

Are you sure he wants to buy coins from you?

gecko109 · July 30, 2008 10:02AM

3 months ago these deadbeats would have gotten exactly what they deserved.....a big fat NEG!

Thanks for turning the place into a carnival funhouse for people with champaign tastes on beer budgets EBAY!

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 10:03AM

<< << but if I can sharpen my pencil even more he will scratch it together! >>

Are you sure he wants to buy coins from you? >>

Not coins just one coin, and if I drop the accepted offer another 15% he will pay me

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 10:05AM

<< 3 months ago these deadbeats would have gotten exactly what they deserved.....a big fat NEG!

Thanks for turning the place into a carnival funhouse for people with champaign tastes on beer budgets EBAY! >>

Gecko109, your right as I have been listing collectibles on EBay since 2001 and have never had this type of ordeal before!

TwoSides2aCoin · July 30, 2008 10:06AM

<< 3 months ago these deadbeats would have gotten exactly what they deserved.....a big fat NEG!

Thanks for turning the place into a carnival funhouse for people with champaign tastes on beer budgets EBAY! >>

Broadstruck & eBay Shopper's

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 10:13AM

<< 

<< 3 months ago these deadbeats would have gotten exactly what they deserved.....a big fat NEG!

Thanks for turning the place into a carnival funhouse for people with champaign tastes on beer budgets EBAY! >>

Broadstruck & eBay Shopper's >>

TwoSides2aCoin, Funny but that's exactly where I'm at 60 day terms deals 1/3 now, 1/3 in 30 days, balance of 1/3 in 60days.

Coin ships after the last check clears, and they can both have a 2.9% Paypal fees credit for paying by check.

I'm now known as Broadstruck Savings and Loans!

pennyannie · July 30, 2008 10:14AM

Twosides- That was funny!! I appreciate all ebay does for me. Since this new policy went in effect i have had far more issues collecting money. I NEVER had a sale go south on a coin sale before this change, since this change i have had 8 sales i had to file to get payment. I let 2 out of there debts and the other 6 finally paid 10 days or so later. I have seen a rise in certified coins being returned also compared to before the change. I am slowing my listings down and i may finally chose to go a different avenue.

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 10:17AM

<< Twosides- That was funny!! I appreciate all ebay does for me. Since this new policy went in effect i have had far more issues collecting money. I NEVER had a sale go south on a coin sale before this change, since this change i have had 8 sales i had to file to get payment. I let 2 out of there debts and the other 6 finally paid 10 days or so later. I have seen a rise in certified coins being returned also compared to before the change. I am slowing my listings down and i may finally chose to go a different avenue. >>

Wow pennyannie that's really sad to hear!

So what happens when you file to get payment, and how binding is a EBay transaction anyway

Coinlearner · July 30, 2008 10:18AM

Negotiate before buying/selling. There is no "room" or time after. I would follow eBay steps for nonpaying buyers,they get a strike, for what it is worth, get the fees back, Block(give us a heads up to), relist, and move on,........................Sunday had several "potental" buyers that wanted lower prices, wanted to end sale and curcumvent fees, wanted to meet to pick up gold, etc. Seems to be more of this stuff, of late.

TwoSides2aCoin · July 30, 2008 10:23AM

Actually, I was looking for the corresponding song to your thread title, Broadstruck. It's a good song. The one I linked to was an attempt to ease some of the pain in the neck and hope for a laugh, in spite of the injustices of the system.

SaorAlba · July 30, 2008 10:25AM

Get used to it, eBay is a ship of fools now. I buy but I won't sell again on there anytime soon.

rgCoinGuy · July 30, 2008 10:31AM

I am getting close to selling off most of what I am looking to liquidate, I have become a powerseller in the meantime, and with that, have run into more problems than ever in the past. Sad.... Good luck though Broadstruck, the good guys eventually win.

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 10:31AM

<< Actually, I was looking for the corresponding song to your thread title, Broadstruck. It's a good song. The one I linked to was an attempt to ease some of the pain in the neck and hope for a laugh, in spite of the injustices of the system. >>

War, What Is It Good For?

TwoSides2aCoin · July 30, 2008 10:40AM

That's the one. Just the right medicine, man.

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 10:40AM

<< I am getting close to selling off most of what I am looking to liquidate, I have become a powerseller in the meantime, and with that, have run into more problems than ever in the past. Sad.... Good luck though Broadstruck, the good guys eventually win.

>>

I'm keeping my cool and am being very sincere in my responses.

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 10:43AM

<< 3 months ago these deadbeats would have gotten exactly what they deserved.....a big fat NEG!

Thanks for turning the place into a carnival funhouse for people with champaign tastes on beer budgets EBAY! >>

I'm not sure if anyone noticed but since the change Heritage on EBay has dropped into the 95% Feedback level.

derryb · July 30, 2008 10:59AM

How about the user names so the rest of us can block them.

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 11:02AM

<< How about the user names so the rest of can block them. >>

Not yet as I'm still giving them the benefit of doubt to see that if they want to play the Ebay flute they need to pay the piper!

pennyannie · July 30, 2008 11:13AM

I have never blocked anyone in 7 or 8 years. I may start soon. I do a lot of buy it now/best offer and the offers lately are comical to say the least. I have seen a influx of new ebayers thinking everthing is 10 cents on the dollar.

Tvac897 · July 30, 2008 11:14AM

lol

Walmann · July 30, 2008 11:20AM

<< So I spent most of my day negotiating with 2 Non Paying Bidders, to make them understand it's a Binding Contract and they need to follow through!

>>

People figure if sports stars and entertainment performers can renegotiate their contracts why can't ebay buyers?

Broadstruck · July 30, 2008 11:31AM

So what does Ebay do for a seller if you file a Non Paying Bidder

rgCoinGuy · July 30, 2008 11:57AM

<< So what does Ebay do for a seller if you file a Non Paying Bidder

>>

I believe they can't leave you a neg, and you will get your fees back, Russ, will probably correct me if I am wrong.

storm888 · July 30, 2008 12:10PM

<< 

<< So what does Ebay do for a seller if you file a Non Paying Bidder

>>

I believe they can't leave you a neg, and you will get your fees back, Russ, will probably correct me if I am wrong.

>>

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Sadly, NPBs can leave NEGs; provided they:

1. Respond to the NPB dispute.

2. Mention a problem with the seller OR the item in the response.

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EBAY is looking at a way to eliminate NPBs. A scheme will likely be
tried before 2010 that would exempt sellers from the downside of
the NPB-process, IF the seller accepts PayPal as their ONLY payment
method.

(Ecrater currently has a similar scheme. No FB can be left by a buyer,
UNLESS an electronic-payment confirmation is viewable.)

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All that aside: There are legitimate reasons to allow NPBs to leave NEGs.
That is the quandry that EBAY is faced with. If a buyer discovers he is
being scammed AFTER he "buys" but before he pays, he needs to be
able to warn others.

SirAnthonyAC · July 30, 2008 12:18PM

Ebay should not have over reacted to retalitory negative feedback which resulted in them preventing every seller from leaving negative feedback.

They should have thought and responded by preventing those sellers with 3 or more complaints of retaliatory negative feedback (where there's proof of payment) from leaving negative.

EBay! Huh! Good God, y'all! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing, huh! Say it again!

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