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opinion of grade needed for 1892 Barber Half....

DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
New purchase today and I wanted to know what you thought of the grade. The picture was taken under fluorescent light with the result that the coin looks 'flat' and unattractive. It actually is quite lusterous, slightly frosty and has cartwheel luster.

I'm wondering if the few hairlines on the cheek area and just in front of the chin would keep this coin from grading at PCGS. No hairlines whatsoever are present on the rest of the coin's area but in these two spots only.

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  • STONESTONE Posts: 15,275
    Possible contender for the Super Slider

    Nice coin though image
  • pursuitoflibertypursuitofliberty Posts: 7,283 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tough pictures, and certainly can not tell if the hairlines you speak of are cleaning or just friction, but I think it would grade without a problem.

    Looks pretty close to Unc, but the cheek is probably wear, and there are a few other telltale signs ... so AU58




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  • bfjohnsonbfjohnson Posts: 541 ✭✭✭
    I'm pretty sure the coin would grade at PCGS but I've been fooled before.
  • joecopperjoecopper Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭
    Au55 or so details -- AU50 due to dings
  • MFHMFH Posts: 11,720 ✭✭✭✭

    AU 58 details - looks like there are a few grease stains on the obverse.

    I see no dings - just circulation marks - and well within the realm of AU 58.

    Not too sure if it'll holder because of the stain on the left of Liberty's cap.

    Mike Hayes
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  • veryfineveryfine Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭
    Dings?
    Where?
  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd like to see pics under non fluorescent light, but for now AU55-58 with no rim ding issues.
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  • BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Hair lines won't keep a coin from grading unless they are all in the same direction indicating a cleaning.
  • TavernTreasuresTavernTreasures Posts: 1,262 ✭✭✭
    Great looking coin for a collector. I would say anywhere between AU58 and MS62. I would probably go with MS61.
    Advanced collector of BREWERIANA. Early beer advertising (beer cans, tap knobs, foam scrapers, trays, tin signs, lithos, paper, etc)....My first love...U.S. COINS!
  • ARCOARCO Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Coin has original cartwheel luster, which is almost gone at AU55. That dark spot above the ribbon on the obverse is about the best indicator that you have an original (could be dipped) AU58 or MS coin. I would say that the coin could easily grade as MS62. I also think that PCGS would grade it no problem. It might have light hairlines, but stronger hairlines would destroy that cartwheel look. I know because I just bought an AU58 online that has strong hairlines and the cartwheel effect is shot to hell.

    It may grade AU58, but it is a really nice AU58 for the luster, while the nicks and ticks on the obverse aren't ideal, but not too bad either.

    Tyler
  • Very Nice 58.

    merse

  • NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 10,999 ✭✭✭✭✭
    AU-58
  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,071 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's AU and PCGS would likely grade it unless the hairlines are particularly bad.
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  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Question about the reverse. What is that black spot under the "E"?
    And as a follow on how would it affect the grade if it is a carbon spot?

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  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,377 ✭✭✭✭✭
    updated pics. Also included is a 1854 dime that came along for the ride.

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    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
  • Cool coin, can't tell grade from picture.
    -Rome is Burning

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  • ElcontadorElcontador Posts: 7,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You should see some of the POS of this series that are in MS 65 holders; I'd be shocked if your coin doesn't grade. Don't know about the dime though, it looked played with to me.
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