When you have workers at your home do you hide any evidence of coin collecting?
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It's probably a good idea. I would also make certain that no numismatic books, periodicals or wall mounted items are visible.
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New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.
<< <i>No, because short of a few Dansco modern albums, there's nothing to take. >>
Ditto.
A recent situation just happened to me, where I decided to go with satellite internet access at home and had the installer out. He needed access to my computer/desk area to hook up the modem, install the software, etc. I spend the evening before putting everything away related to coins. While he was there, I saw him looking in my garage basket which was next to my desk, and asking what these things were. I had a bunch of old cardboard 2x2 flips that I had taken the coins out and thrown away. He noticed those and was asking what there were.
I didn't want to tell him what they were, so I made up an excuse that they were for my work and I use them for "sampling." I wanted to say none of your f------ business! I did call the company and lodge a complaint against the installer. Hopefully, that won't come back and bite me in the butt.
Aside from asking what those 2x2 flips were, I bet he actually _knew_ what they were. His question, to me, was more of an exclamation than anything. A real good thief would have been quieter about it.
Think about this...do you recycle your paper items? Does any of that recycling contain invoices? Envelopes? Packing lists? Now, does anyone go through your recycling at night? (!!!)
I agree. The harder part for me is my kids' friends. All good kids, but who knows what get said to whom.
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<< <i>I also hide everything, and it is a pain. But you have to be careful nowadays.
A recent situation just happened to me, where I decided to go with satellite internet access at home and had the installer out. He needed access to my computer/desk area to hook up the modem, install the software, etc. I spend the evening before putting everything away related to coins. While he was there, I saw him looking in my garage basket which was next to my desk, and asking what these things were. I had a bunch of old cardboard 2x2 flips that I had taken the coins out and thrown away. He noticed those and was asking what there were. >>
Heck, I don't even put numismatic evidence in the garbage (or recycling). No need to tip off the garbage men much less some internet installer. All correspondences with dealers go in the fire place (wood stove) and all catalogs are given away to a dealer out of state who pays for postage.
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<< <i>Yes, and it's a pain.
I agree. The harder part for me is my kids' friends. All good kids, but who knows what get said to whom. >>
I've told my kids not to discuss my collection with their friends. Remember six degrees of separation? When it comes to crooks in the neighborhood, it's more like three degrees of separation or less.
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<< <i>No. Nothing is more telling to the criminal mind than the owner trying to hide it. Ergo, it must be valuable. --Jerry >>
If it's hidden, how does he know? Or do you tell him?
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all you gotta do is hand the guys a couple of prez bucks and tell them this is what you collect..............
they'll get turned off quick!
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<< <i>No. Nothing is more telling to the criminal mind than the owner trying to hide it. Ergo, it must be valuable. --Jerry >>
If it's hidden, how does he know? Or do you tell him? >>
attempts to sanitize a house like this are very difficult. Ask any teenager who had a party while their parents were out. --Jerry
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<< <i>No. Nothing is more telling to the criminal mind than the owner trying to hide it. Ergo, it must be valuable. --Jerry >>
If it's hidden, how does he know? Or do you tell him? >>
attempts to sanitize a house like this are very difficult. Ask any teenager who had a party while their parents were out. --Jerry >>
The OP question refered to "workers at your home" which I took to mean the plummer, furnace or air conditioning service guy, etc. A gang of teenagers is another story.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I think there is a bit of excessive paranoia regarding 'hiding' your stuff like that. I mean, why not then hide your flat panel plasma TV? Why not then hide your tricked out stereo system, or your collectible china, silverware, or any other expensive goodies most of us have lying around our homes? I certainly do not advertise my coins in my home and I would not leave an expensive slabbed coin out on the coffee table but take steps to hide a BOOK? In my opinion that's a bit ridiculous. I'm willing to bet some construction worker/repair man will be eying your electronics way before some numismatic catalog.
<< <i>....Heck, I don't even put numismatic evidence in the garbage (or recycling). No need to tip off the garbage men... >>
Garbage men don't even leave the truck. They grab your can with that manipulator arm and sling your junk into the truck with the rest of the neighborhood's garbage. More paranoia. Once your flips, or whatever, get to the land fill, or even when they're still in the truck, there is no way to tell from which home they came. It's the guy AT the dump looking for your name and numbers for identity theft you have to worry about not some garbage man seeing a numismatic catalog or spent flips in the trash.
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<< <i>....Heck, I don't even put numismatic evidence in the garbage (or recycling). No need to tip off the garbage men... >>
Garbage men don't even leave the truck. They grab your can with that manipulator arm and sling your junk into the truck with the rest of the neighborhood's garbage. More paranoia. >>
In most neighborhoods, the garbage men don't use a tricked out garbage truck like the one you describe. Most garbage men have to walk around the outside of your house or your driveway and manhandle the garbage and recycling themselves. And the last time I checked, most garbage men aren't pulling down six figures.
<< <i>I think there is a bit of excessive paranoia regarding 'hiding' your stuff like that. I mean, why not then hide your flat panel plasma TV? Why not then hide your tricked out stereo system, or your collectible china, silverware, or any other expensive goodies most of us have lying around our homes? I certainly do not advertise my coins in my home and I would not leave an expensive slabbed coin out on the coffee table but take steps to hide a BOOK? In my opinion that's a bit ridiculous. I'm willing to bet some construction worker/repair man will be eying your electronics way before some numismatic catalog. >>
A numismatic catalog is an obvious tip that you collect very small, very expensive stuff. Unlike a flat panel plasma TV, coins can be easily placed in one's pocket and liquidated at a later time. Besides, most non-collectors believe old coins are worth much much more than they usually are so given the chance, I'm sure a thief would go for a handful of gold coins over a 64" flat screen.
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<< <i>No. Nothing is more telling to the criminal mind than the owner trying to hide it. Ergo, it must be valuable. --Jerry >>
If it's hidden, how does he know? Or do you tell him? >>
attempts to sanitize a house like this are very difficult. Ask any teenager who had a party while their parents were out. --Jerry >>
The OP question refered to "workers at your home" which I took to mean the plummer, furnace or air conditioning service guy, etc. A gang of teenagers is another story. >>
You've got the analogy backwards. the teenagers created eveidence of a party all over the house, just like you have evidnce of coin collecting all over the house. If you run around the house taking down things you'll miss something. You'll leave blank spots that look wierd..."Hmmm, wonder what is supposed to be there?" You throw things in a closet. If this worker is so nefarious that he needs to be worried about, he may snoop in the closet. Etc....
I wouldn't live in a world where I was constantly afraid of everyone who comes to my house....
<< <i>It's probably a good idea. I would also make certain that no numismatic books, periodicals or wall mounted items are visible. >>
High anxiety around here when that happens
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<< <i>Yes, I put the coin stuff in the trunk of one of my Ferraris.
Current ferraris don't have a trunk....I'm not sure older ones do either....do you really drive a Focus like me?
Park a focus in front of your house, let two kids (aka little tornados) fill the floor with toys, clothes, and partially eaten food, and it won't look like the owner of this house would ever have anything more valuable that the Target ballet shoes that the daughter likes to keep on the coffee table...
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<< <i>Yes, I put the coin stuff in the trunk of one of my Ferraris.
Current ferraris don't have a trunk....I'm not sure older ones do either....do you really drive a Focus like me?
Park a focus in front of your house, let two kids (aka little tornados) fill the floor with toys, clothes, and partially eaten food, and it won't look like the owner of this house would ever have anything more valuable that the Target ballet shoes that the daughter likes to keep on the coffee table...
I knew someone would figure I was not serious about the Ferrari.
Actually, I park my Civic Hybrid in the garage. I am afraid to leave it on the street. The crooks are driving their Tahoes and Suburbans to the homes of people who own hybrids, stealing the hybrid, and leaving the gas guzzler in its place. We leave my wife's SUV out front so people will think are poor from having to pay too much for gas.
As for the original question, I do not make any effort to hide the coin stuff. We had probably over 100 different workmen in our home over the last year (with the remodeling job). I am frankly more afraid they will come back for the television. The coins are in the SDB at the bank. If they want to steal my other numismatic material, have at it. Just leave my QDB books.
<< <i>Wife thinks I'm nuts but yes. Just yesterday Sears was here to work on the TV in our bedroom(the only room where anything coin related can be seen) and my daughter said why is that sheet covering your books? I told her and she just rolled her eyes. >>
How old is your daughter? Sounds young and still naive.
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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
I rarely let workman in. I try to do all my work myself and for good reason. No strangers allowed! Wifey thinks I'm a little over the top but I knew that already.
If I find I cannot do something, I escort them around like they were in the Pentagon. I pick up a lot of good repair tips that way too...
<< <i>....most non-collectors believe old coins are worth much much more than they usually are.... >>
I totally agree with that statement.
<< <i>....most non-collectors believe old coins are worth much much more than they usually are..... >>
I know a couple of coin dealers that feel the same way.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>....most non-collectors believe old coins are worth much much more than they usually are..... >>
I know a couple of coin dealers that feel the same way.
<< <i>I did call the company and lodge a complaint against the installer >>
You lodged a complaint against someone for asking an innocent question?
It was a Co-worker who got me into collecting, and I don't hide any coins from him. However, I don't tell any other Co-workers that I collect, and non of them will ever know. If you tell the ONE wrong person, might as well put an add in the paper.
<< <i>[ And the last time I checked, most garbage men aren't pulling down six figures. >>
So you are saying Anyone that is not making 6 figures cant be trusted ?
I am going to shut my mouth now, before I get Ignorant also.
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