The story of lot 403 - Sorry this set is not for sale. Post of the year 2007
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Texast
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This is an older post, but it really is timeless, it's a true story. Every few years I would revive it so the new members could see it Please, take the time to go through the entire thread, I'm sure you will like it.
Make sure to read " The Rest of the Story" in post 35
TexasT
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August 2, 2007
This past weekend I had noticed a link on the message board to an auction on Proxybid, out of curiosity I went to the site, registered for the auction and started to browse the listings.
After a while I noticed a set of BU / Proof Lincoln Cents, 1937 to 1998, the description said it was mostly completed. The picture in the auction showed a blue three ring binder full of pennies in 2x2 holders. I went ahead and bid on the auction, winning it for $81.00, plus the 15% buyers fee and shipping.
Today I got the set in the mail and started to look through it. What I found I never expected.
As I opened the folder I could see bright red pennies, starting with the 1937 Philadelphia strike, going along each and every spot was filed with the regular issue P, D &S that you would expect, as I turned to the next page I could see more bright red pennies, and the gleaming Steel Cents of 1943. I noticed a spot next to the 1955 where a coin had been, was it the 1955 Doubled Die, I will never know, someone had removed it, turning the pages more I found the same empty spot next to the 1972.
Still I thought what a set, and I began looking closer, this was no ordinary set. Someone had taken a lifetime to collect these pennies, I looked closer and found the clean crisp writing of the dates and mint marks in the earlier years, I noticed that over the years the staples had changed type, for a few years in the late forties and early fifties he used a date stamp made for collectors that had the mintmarks on them, I saw that he had carefully marked the 44's and 45's as Shell Case cents, in the 60's he started to include the Proof cents for each year.
Then in the mid 80's I noticed that the writing was not as crisp, his hand was a little more shaky, the dates written on the coins not as smooth as previous years, each year getting a little more distorted, once in a while I would notice in the early 90's a fingerprint hear and there, 1997 was missing all together, then 1998, you could barley read the writing on the holder, his hand no longer able to write clearly. And the set ends. He had included some extras on the last page, a nice BU 34, and a few others.
Over the next hour I started to realize just how much work he had put into this set, always trying to put together the best he could get. I began to wonder about this person, and how he must have treasured his set of pennies. I would imagine that he passed not to long after putting in his last cent and wondered if there was anyone that would ever appreciate his work.
Well sir, I never meet you, but as I write this the hair on the back of my neck is standing on end, my eyes are beginning to water, and I want you to know, I appreciate your set, and I will never sell it. I can only hope that when I go someone will get this set and feel the way I do about it. I will pick up where you left off, and keep each coin together in the set. Your work was not in vain.
Lot 403 - Is not for sale.
Tex
This is an older post, but it really is timeless, it's a true story. Every few years I would revive it so the new members could see it Please, take the time to go through the entire thread, I'm sure you will like it.
Make sure to read " The Rest of the Story" in post 35
TexasT
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August 2, 2007
This past weekend I had noticed a link on the message board to an auction on Proxybid, out of curiosity I went to the site, registered for the auction and started to browse the listings.
After a while I noticed a set of BU / Proof Lincoln Cents, 1937 to 1998, the description said it was mostly completed. The picture in the auction showed a blue three ring binder full of pennies in 2x2 holders. I went ahead and bid on the auction, winning it for $81.00, plus the 15% buyers fee and shipping.
Today I got the set in the mail and started to look through it. What I found I never expected.
As I opened the folder I could see bright red pennies, starting with the 1937 Philadelphia strike, going along each and every spot was filed with the regular issue P, D &S that you would expect, as I turned to the next page I could see more bright red pennies, and the gleaming Steel Cents of 1943. I noticed a spot next to the 1955 where a coin had been, was it the 1955 Doubled Die, I will never know, someone had removed it, turning the pages more I found the same empty spot next to the 1972.
Still I thought what a set, and I began looking closer, this was no ordinary set. Someone had taken a lifetime to collect these pennies, I looked closer and found the clean crisp writing of the dates and mint marks in the earlier years, I noticed that over the years the staples had changed type, for a few years in the late forties and early fifties he used a date stamp made for collectors that had the mintmarks on them, I saw that he had carefully marked the 44's and 45's as Shell Case cents, in the 60's he started to include the Proof cents for each year.
Then in the mid 80's I noticed that the writing was not as crisp, his hand was a little more shaky, the dates written on the coins not as smooth as previous years, each year getting a little more distorted, once in a while I would notice in the early 90's a fingerprint hear and there, 1997 was missing all together, then 1998, you could barley read the writing on the holder, his hand no longer able to write clearly. And the set ends. He had included some extras on the last page, a nice BU 34, and a few others.
Over the next hour I started to realize just how much work he had put into this set, always trying to put together the best he could get. I began to wonder about this person, and how he must have treasured his set of pennies. I would imagine that he passed not to long after putting in his last cent and wondered if there was anyone that would ever appreciate his work.
Well sir, I never meet you, but as I write this the hair on the back of my neck is standing on end, my eyes are beginning to water, and I want you to know, I appreciate your set, and I will never sell it. I can only hope that when I go someone will get this set and feel the way I do about it. I will pick up where you left off, and keep each coin together in the set. Your work was not in vain.
Lot 403 - Is not for sale.
Tex
On BS&T Now: Nothing.
Fighting the Fight for 11 Years with the big "C" - Never Ever Give Up!
Member PCGS Open Forum board 2002 - 2006 (closed end of 2006) Current board since 2006 Successful trades with many members, over the past two decades, never a bad deal.
Fighting the Fight for 11 Years with the big "C" - Never Ever Give Up!
Member PCGS Open Forum board 2002 - 2006 (closed end of 2006) Current board since 2006 Successful trades with many members, over the past two decades, never a bad deal.
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Wow,
Great find and a great story.
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Beautiful story.
You are the perfect caretaker for that loving-assembled set. The original owner is, I am sure, pleased to know what good hands it is in.When in doubt, don't.0 -
That's what it's all about Tex. You tapped into the very heart of coin collecting there. Have you thought about replacing the missing 55DDO and 72?...that would be cool. And this gentelman enjoyed his collection without the assistance of slabs and stickers, go figure.0
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Very cool story, thanks for sharing - it brought a tear to my eye.
I have experienced the same thing - but not to that large of an extent. I think the original owner of that set of cents is smiling - wherever he is.“In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock." - Thomas Jefferson
My digital cameo album 1950-64 Cameos - take a look!0 -
That is quite interesting indeed! It would be great if you kept the set just the way it is and include your observations on the inside front cover of the binder. Also, it would be interesting to contact the seller in order to find out about the person who put this set together and write a short biography of that person to include with the set. I sounds like he added the cents to the set as they came out each year over a span of 61 years before he either passed away or was no longer able to continue.
Thanks for the story!
Bob0 -
Great Story!Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!0
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I'm glad you bought it and not some dealer ready to rip it apart for the sake of profit only. I have some sets my father put together. Mostly circulated, but I have not been able to bring myself to sell them even though they are not very valuable, My Dad died in 1989.
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Nice to have some context to a collection. Gives it more meaning.coinimaging.com/my photography articles Check out the new macro lens testing section1
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Great post. You're a perfect example of a true collector. The set is in good hands.1
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Excellent story and now you can continue where he left off....This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.0 -
Nice story. Someone is smiling on you and this collection somewhere, seeing it will be kept together as it was lovingly and painstakingly put together over 60 years...rather than sent out to the slab factories and dispersed.0
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Are you a writer? Because that story was moving.
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Great story and congrats on the find. Even more important is your attitude of stewardship of the collection.
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Now that was a good post!
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That was a nice story to read thank you for taking the time to post it.





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Loved the story. You should print it as a keepsake to place with the album. Nice Job!!!!!!!
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Excellent post, I could only hope that my collection could wind up with someone that could appreciate my efforts. Unfortunately my kids have no real interest in collecting.1
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Great story, and glad you will continue the tradition. Excellent read and a great diversion from the CACA threads.If I say something in the woods, and my wife isn't around. Am I still wrong?1
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Allow me to add another well done!
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
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Thanks for sharing.1
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Hey Tex, would it be possible to see pics of the set?1
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At first I was going to read the story. After the first couple of sentences I quit, thinking it was just another long winded, loser auction story. I read two replies, and realized I must have missed something. Boy, did I. What a great story. It had the hair standing on the back of my neck also. Probably the best written post I've read, bar none. It made me remember why I started many years ago. Cudos to you.
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Excellent post and well written story.... Cheers, RickO1
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the hair on the back of my neck is standing on end, my eyes are beginning to water
dang! mine too! cool post. very.Q: Are You Printing Money? Bernanke: Not Literally
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Good for you on a great auction purchase.
This is what coin collecting is or should be all about.
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I thought it was very cool on one hand, and on the other hand depressing because this treasured keepsake was dumped for 80 bucks on Proxibid by his family. Then back on the other hand it's cool again because it was bought by someone who will appreciate it.2
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Very nice story, brother.Every man is a self made man.1 -
And now for the rest of the story ...
Imagine my surprise when I read Tex's story about this set of coins since I was the person that handled the consignment of these coins along with the grading and lotting of all of the coins in this particular auction. I contacted Tex after seeing this post and told him that I would be giving an update to the story.
The owner of the coins was a gentleman that passed away earlier this year at age 77. I was contacted by an older brother of his whom I know well about liquidating his collection, of which the auction items were just a portion. After seeing Tex's post, I printed a copy for his brother who was obviously moved by it. I then asked if I could respond with a brief synopsis of his life as well.
Bobby was born in 1930 in Minnesota where he attended school through high school until joining the Navy. During his stint in the Navy, he fell off of the wing of a Corsair and suffered head trauma that affected him for the rest of his life. Later on, he ran delivery routes for a local food manufacturing plant until he was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, which ended his days making deliveries. He moved into the plant and ended up as the head purchaser before retirement.
He and his wife lived in an apartment above a dairy that ended up burning down in 1974. (Several of the coin lots in the auction were fire-damaged coins.) His wife divorced him shortly after the fire and he never had any children. The MS eventually took its toll, and he spent many years in a wheelchair. He also had many heart problems and heart attacks over the years.
I had the pleasure of meeting Bobby, but never really got to know him. His coin collection was very ecclectic ranging from over 6,000 wheat cents to bags of common coins, silver & gold bullion, gifts that were given to him over the years, and other strange items that always seem to be found in collections. He was also taken advantage of by some very unscupulous dealers over the years as there was a large collection of key date coins that were all fake or altered dates/mintmarks. We have been unable to locate any sales records to determine where he got the coins from, unfortunately.
Of all the items in the collection, the collection of cents that Tex refers to was the only thing that I would describe as something that was worked on for a long time, so it was probably where he started and he continued over time, even when he could afford better items for his collection. The cent set was actually split into two parts - the one Tex has and another collection of proof-only cents from 1938-1990 which I bought out of the auction. It was in an old black binder that was falling apart, so I put both halves into two binders for the auction. If I kept the old binder, I'll send it to Tex if he wants to keep it all together.
By the way, there was no 55DD in the set (I suppose he kept the place holder just in case), but there was a 72DD #1 in there. It was sold as a separate lot in the auction. He did have two 55DD's but they were part of the counterfeit coins.
Hope this helps to put some perspective behind the story.
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What a fascinating story........................................and an incredible history too!
Young Numismatist ............................ and growing!1 -
I'm not sure what to say, for the second time today the hair on the back of my neck stood up.
I will print out the complete series of post here and put it with the collection. I am glad that Jeff was able to add to this story, and I hope he keeps the Proof's with the same feeling I have for the rest of the set.
I am very glad that his brother got to read my post.
As for the questions some have asked, I will try and post some pictures of the set this evening, as for being a writer, well that only happens when I'm inspired such as I was when I saw the set. I do plan to add both parts of this story together, I believe it would make an interesting article for Coin World or Numismatic News. If Jeff will get the Ok from Bobby's Brother I will do that.
Again, thanks to all who have contributed to this post.
One more note on this, My Step Father was an Aircraft Mechanic Stationed in England in WWII, I let him read the story as I felt there was a strange connection between the two.
TexOn BS&T Now: Nothing.
Fighting the Fight for 11 Years with the big "C" - Never Ever Give Up!
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Threads like this make you wish PCGS had a PCGS Message Board Thread of the Year Award. This would be it. WOW, what a thread!!!1
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Great story.
A story about a guy who collected most of his life, through ups and downs, good times and bad. His participation in and his devotion to the hobby probably would be overlooked and/or looked down upon by many other collectors and dealers as being low end and "not worthy" of their time or consideration.
However, at least as to the collection of cents purchased by Texast, the time and devotion to the hobby of this collector has produced a collection of coins that any true hobbiest can and should appreciate, ponder and dare I say, hope to emulate.
I for one hope that Texast keeps the collection of cents intact and through his own efforts in the hobby expand the collection by adding post 1998 proof and circulation strike issues and by adding pre 1999 proof and circulation strike issues that are currently missing, going all the way back to 1909. Doing so would be fun and challenging (particularly finding coins of equal or better quality to the existing coins assembled by the collector who recently passed on).1 -
With fine jewelry, provenance adds a great deal to the value.
A story such as this, adds so much more."Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)
"“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)
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Wow. I agree. From POTD to Thread of the Year!
Tex's post (Post of the Day certainly) is deserving of consideration for Post of the Year, and with Jeff's addition, and the amazing fact that he is also a member of the forum and added so well to the story line, makes it Thread of the Year material.1 -
What a wonderful thread. Thanks for sharing his story with us.
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Very "inspiring" Great post, and thanks for sharing
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Wow, great story. This is what collecting is all about. If there is a public picture of Bobby from when he served, it would be an honor to add him to the "Wall of Honor" in my office. We invite patients to bring photos of family members who have served in the armed forces (or are currently serving) to go on the wall. If they are currently serving, they will receive a care package and letter signed by my entire staff.
Your post made my day.
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As I promissed earlier here are some of the pictures of Bobby's Pennies so the rest of the board can also enjoy his collection.
I may talk with a few others, maybe we can finish the set, put the story together and donate it for display to the ANA Museum. I think that would be a nice way to remember Bobby.
I reduced the size as much as possible for the dialuppers.
Tex











On BS&T Now: Nothing.
Fighting the Fight for 11 Years with the big "C" - Never Ever Give Up!
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Fantastic post.
Thanks for reminding me why these boards are such a great resource.
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Great story - that collection should be on display at a place like Long Beach or FUN, along with the story behind the coins.
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Cool story, indeed. Thanks for sharing.John
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Great story. Nice offset to the "rip the grannies" posts

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This thread is fun. And that is what collecting is all about. Every true collector is sharing your feelings. I hope that when I pass on parts of my collection can create the intrigue that this penny book has provided to us today. Thanks for the post, and the follow-up post as well.
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