1798 Heraldic Eagle dollar Real or Fake and Variety
ipmman
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Opinions please on this 1798 dollar.
Real or Fake?
Variety? Condition? (obviously a net grade?)
Real or Fake?
Variety? Condition? (obviously a net grade?)
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Star radials have almost complete detail, while most coins of this era had out of parallel dies and uneven strikes. Typically, the stars on one side of the obverse have more detail than those on the other side. I've never seen a Bust $ without some stars beng flat.
Because of the uneven striking pressure, you see gaps & flat spots on coinage this old. Look at the reverse. Every Bust $ I've seen had some clouds with more detail than others, and some of the clouds lacked quite a bit of detail. Not here. Ditto re the wings. Your typical XF will show much more detail in one area of the wings than others. Not here.
Wouldn't surprise me if this coin is silver plated; I'd be shocked if the metal content was correct.
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<< <i>Opinions please on this 1798 dollar.
Real or Fake?
Variety? Condition? (obviously a net grade?)
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BB-123, B-25, sharpness of AU, scudzy, harshly cleaned, pockmarked, rim damage and likely ex-jewelery, net VG or thereabouts.
If the edge is lettered I'd think it is real. Is it lettered?
Ed. S.
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Best to see it in hand. Many fakes, like the well known 1799, have thier edges lettered after they are struck so you get a lip around the rim. Real ones had their edges lettered first.
Of course, the Chinese jobs are very easy to tell because they are not in the book.
Looks much sharper than any of the ones in the Heritage archives.
It could be bogus. If it's real it's been screwed with big time, and worth less than $1,000 despite the sharpness.
A reputable dealer is offering it for $800, buy or pass? They are NOT a coin dealer, but they will guarantee authenticity, I'm not worried about it from that standpoint. But why tie up the $?
I wouldn't buy it but someone who can just barely afford it should really appreciate it.
Edited to add that the jewelry was probably made soon after 1799 and if we knew who it was made for that might be very, very interesting. There weren't a lot of rich and famous people back then.
--Jerry
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