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Mint To Release GW Presedential Dollars First Day Coin Covers On April 4th at Noon - SOLD OUT

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  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,143 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Just placed a order for some Montana covers (25) on a hunch.......what if.......

    Boy it was nice to purchase something that is "in stock" rather than back ordered! >>




    Likewise .. with only 35,000 produced .. who knows. Even though I do not collect State FDCC's, I like small production totals on any numismatic item released by the Mint, as such I will keep an eye on the future State & Presidential FDCC production totals. image
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."


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    << <i> I mean, really, the State quarter covers have pretty much flopped and those coins circulate! >>



    I truly hope that these flop as badly as the Delaware FDCCs. Wouldn't mind selling them for $40 each (link)). >>



    Yeah I can pick out a completed auction too.
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  • LionelLionel Posts: 536
    Just curious,

    Someone (or maybe everyone) explain to me why it's so hard to break even on those first day nickel covers, even the most recent one that was limited to 50,000. That means a limit of 50,000 sets since the fifth and final nickel cover production was significantly lower than the previous four.

    Is all this demand for the Washington coin covers driven by grading services willing to slab these with special labels once you rip them out of their original packaging and destroy the original product? Sorry if this is a stupid question. I've read many posts on this thread but not all of them.

    I'm asking because I'm sitting on quite a few of those nickel covers (quite a number of complete sets, actually) and they can't be sold for any kind of profit. I just bought nine nickel covers from a coin store local to me, still in shrinkwrap from the mint, for five dollars each. (In fact, one was marked at $10 and I offered them five and they took it.) They originally sold for $19.95.

    And, I think those nickels are just as cool as these Washington dollars.
    Anyone can make a difference, but most people probably shouldn't. -- Marge Simpson
  • aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭


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    << <i> I mean, really, the State quarter covers have pretty much flopped and those coins circulate! >>



    I truly hope that these flop as badly as the Delaware FDCCs. Wouldn't mind selling them for $40 each (link)). >>



    Yeah I can pick out a completed auction too. >>



    One is sealed and one is not sealed.

  • driven by grading services willing to slab these with special labels once you rip them out of their original packaging and destroy the original product?

    ONLY NGC is doing that, right now.

    PCGS is going to lump them in to the First Day label. This alone will create NO incentive to send to PCGS.

    The Mint Packaging is superior, although no grade will be received.

    Unless PCGS creates a label like NGC is doing, I know where all my Units are being sent for grading and it won't be Newport Beach.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The interest in NGC slabbing FDCCs as FDMs shows how much interest there is in plastic these days.

    Although some people will say this destroys the OGP, the reality is probably that more people like collecting coins in plastic slabs than coins in envelopes. After all, many collectors have lots of other plastic slabs, and few envelopes. Not everyone likes having lots of different holder form factors in their collection.

    I think NGC doing this is great because they are finally promoting an official US Mint designation.

    We should remember that NGC does slab some coins in OGP such as GSA coins and Brown Enveloped Ikes whereas PCGS does not. It would be interesting to see if someone comes up with a slab for the entire envelope.
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭


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    << <i> I mean, really, the State quarter covers have pretty much flopped and those coins circulate! >>



    I truly hope that these flop as badly as the Delaware FDCCs. Wouldn't mind selling them for $40 each (link)). >>



    Yeah I can pick out a completed auction too. >>




    Jeez, given the fact the second one didn't even give a description of what he was selling beyond the photo which honestly looks like the thing was baking on the dashboard of a 57' Chevy owned by a chain-smoking wench I say he did pretty good! I guess writing descriptions and decent photos might be a good idea afterall...
  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,749 ✭✭✭
    If PCGS offers First Day of Mintage labeling they will destroy the market of First Day of Issue. NGC's First Day of Issue will go down hill as most will gravitate toward the First Day of Mintage labeling. PCGS is protecting its FDI Mintage label I believe. But what do I know. Why did the TPG's ignore the First Day of Mintage State Quarters? Will NGC start to offer First Day of Mintage for these. If they do I can see some demand for them. A large percentage of these are not being sold at the U.S. Mint anymore.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If PCGS offers First Day of Mintage labeling they will destroy the market of First Day of Issue. NGC's First Day of Issue will go down hill as most will gravitate toward the First Day of Mintage labeling. PCGS is protecting its FDI Mintage label I believe. But what do I know. Why did the TPG's ignore the First Day of Mintage State Quarters? >>

    That could be true but I think it would be silly to submit a FDCC and only get a FDI designation regardless of the TPG. Much better to not submit or get a FDM.


  • << <i>If PCGS offers First Day of Mintage labeling they will destroy the market of First Day of Issue. NGC's First Day of Issue will go down hill as most will gravitate toward the First Day of Mintage labeling. PCGS is protecting its FDI Mintage label I believe. But what do I know. Why did the TPG's ignore the First Day of Mintage State Quarters? Will NGC start to offer First Day of Mintage for these. If they do I can see some demand for them. A large percentage of these are not being sold at the U.S. Mint anymore. >>


    I think NGC realized the presedential coin covers are a 10-year deal and is catering to the grading revenue these will bring them. Unless PCGS changes their policy to adopt the FDM insert, I believe most orders to have the coin covers graded will go to NGC and will diminish the appeal of the FDI label.
    Never teach a pig to sing. You'll waste your time and annoy the pig image

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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,749 ✭✭✭
    I believe the mint will either limit these per customer or increase the mintage in the future. If they limit these it will play a role on how many of these will be able to bulk submitted.
  • mrmommrmom Posts: 348
    If NGC can encapsulate the whole FDCC with soft plastic slab just like how they do currency, that really will be cool.

    If enough people ask, maybe?

  • mas3387mas3387 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭
    Looks like box 1 of 1000 made it's way to Ebay


    Box 1 of 1000


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  • FullStrikeFullStrike Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭
    Whoever buys that box should put the empty thing back up on the bay. I want it so bad I'd open up bidding at $10.00 !

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    The empty ( #1 of 1,000 ) is what I want most of all image


    * I have 3 cases of 50 coming - but they won't be #1 image
  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    Only $60 each.
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


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  • I heard they were making a French version of Medal of Honor. I wonder how many hotkeys it'll have for "surrender."
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭


    << <i>Looks like box 1 of 1000 made it's way to Ebay


    Box 1 of 1000


    image >>



    Ya, I decided to put it up. What'd you guys think? Too High? Should have been true auction? Opinions welcome since I don't know what to do with the thing...Thximage
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Looks like box 1 of 1000 made it's way to Ebay


    Box 1 of 1000


    image >>

    Ya, I decided to put it up. What'd you guys think? Too High? Should have been true auction? Opinions welcome since I don't know what to do with the thing...Thximage >>

    Maybe you should see if Coin Vault or someone like that wants to buy it. Some of those big shops may have the connections to get NGC to put "BOX #1 OF 1000" on the insert and be willing to pay a higher premium before marketing them on television.
  • 08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Looks like box 1 of 1000 made it's way to Ebay


    Box 1 of 1000


    image >>



    Ya, I decided to put it up. What'd you guys think? Too High? Should have been true auction? Opinions welcome since I don't know what to do with the thing...Thximage >>





    My first reaction when I saw it was it is too cheap.

    But I think it is still a little too early for large demand on these.

    They need a little Press and FDM coins sold.

    Rookie Joe



  • mrmommrmom Posts: 348


    << <i>

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    << <i>Looks like box 1 of 1000 made it's way to Ebay


    Box 1 of 1000


    image >>

    Ya, I decided to put it up. What'd you guys think? Too High? Should have been true auction? Opinions welcome since I don't know what to do with the thing...Thximage >>

    Maybe you should see if Coin Vault or someone like that wants to buy it. Some of those big shops may have the connections to get NGC to put "BOX #1 OF 1000" on the insert and be willing to pay a higher premium before marketing them on television. >>




    it is too cheap.

    If I were you I would cancel the auction and just wait to see how the market develops.

    or

    just for the fun of it, put it up for $8999 with the best offer.


    You have #1, it is the first of first of first of everything.

  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146
    This is what I mean when I use the term, "fast buck artist". It's way too early to be selling.
    USAF vet 1951-59
  • mas3387mas3387 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You have #1, it is the first of first of first of everything. >>



    And it can not be replaced !!!! A pop 1 coin can, by making another image

    These should pick up once news hits Coin World and the other publications
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,143 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Looks like box 1 of 1000 made it's way to Ebay


    Box 1 of 1000


    image >>



    Ya, I decided to put it up. What'd you guys think? Too High? Should have been true auction? Opinions welcome since I don't know what to do with the thing...Thximage >>



    Good write-up & I like your comments on the TPG's. Good luck.image
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • 08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭


    << <i>This is what I mean when I use the term, "fast buck artist". It's way too early to be selling. >>



    I agree it is WAY too early to be selling.

    Speaking for myself I do not have a lot of free cash to tie up in any coins so I sell what I need to recover my initial piurchase amount and hold on to the rest.

    That is what I did with the silver ASE's I still have 1 set and 4 MS and 4 RP that I have no intention to sell unless I have to.

    So I am thinking others may be in the same position as I am and are not all "fast buck artists"

    I hope to make some money off of these to finish my 1955 birth year set.


    Rookie Joe

  • mrmommrmom Posts: 348
    too late it is sold
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>too late it is sold >>

    Sweet. I was wondering what was taking so long. I was starting to be afraid the modern market might be tanking image
  • For those saying it is way too early to be selling, I beg to differ. He is one of the few who has his "box", and when the rest of you get your 50,000 coins, these are going to flood the market, and all the spamming "sold out" and "rare" in the world isn't going to convince an eBayer when he's got tens of thousands to choose from. At $60 per cover, that's a 400% markup, and I think he did good. We'll see how many fetch $60 per on delivery day.
  • 08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭
    NO WAY!!!

    Sorry Casman, I think.

    Rookie Joe

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,621 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was too late for
    100
    200
    300
    400th posts, so let me say :


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    300,000,000

    Some folks are cleaning clocks for a living.
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  • nice job casman.

    so is there are larger sampling yet as to the condition of the coins or
    is is everyone kept them sealed so far?
  • OPAOPA Posts: 17,143 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>nice job casman.

    so is there are larger sampling yet as to the condition of the coins or
    is is everyone kept them sealed so far? >>



    Sealed...the TPG's not getting my business on these babies..image
    "Bongo drive 1984 Lincoln that looks like old coin dug from ground."
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Well I guess that was that! Hey I'm still new here, and now have learned that maybe I shoulda asked for "the gangs"opinions first on pricing. But hey, I not greedy, that's why I bought boxes 2 3 4 and 5....Just Kidding, but I did order a lot more thanks to the "Superheroes" on the boards...P.S. My wife said, "What price did (you know who)" tell you to set it at, Kick X 2....Guess I shoulda asked last night or this morning...If worst comes to worst, I always got my other Job.....Plus, I never look back, except that day I was considering ordering some of the 3 piece gold sets/Platinums/SAE sets when, ......Thanks Cris
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Oh, before I forget, do I need to worry about my buyer "an unconfirmed address", or will the insurance and delivery with signature confirmation keep it on the up and up...image
  • I would not ship to an unconfirmed address. Doesn't Paypal require that in order to protect you?
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    I don't know, I'm an Ebay (5). The paypal payment stuff says "buyer" has provided an unconfirmed address. I'll wait to hear from the experts on this one. I thought I said would only ship to paypal confirmed address...

    His feedback is 1367 with 99.9 positive, think ok?
  • 08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭
    You did say confirmed address only and that is what I would do for that amount.

    His feedback seems real good for buying but 3k is a lot to me.

    Rookie Joe

  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    What exactly do you mean,, keep in mind I'm new with this Ebay stuff...
  • mrmommrmom Posts: 348
    that is no no.

    tell him that you will not ship to an unconfirmed address if he pays via paypal and

    you will only ship to an unconfirmed address if he pays with USPS MO.



    david
  • BigDaddyzBigDaddyz Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    I would require a certified check or money order
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  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I think you did real good. I also think you should have your buyer confirm his address.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146
    Ship to a uncomfirmed address and you're asking for trouble. Also, there's a Paypal requirement that some sellers don't know about. On any sales of $250 or over you must buy the signature confirmation that can be checked online.
    USAF vet 1951-59
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Ok, so given that he's already paid now what? Buyer is "shawneroo" anybody know this buyer??
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Email him and tell him to confirm his address. You are in the drivers seat. You have the hot item not him.

    also, like mentioned since it is over 250.00 you must get the signature at delivery.


    Why do all the good deals always heve to have a snag?

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    By the way, What does 'in stock and reserved' Mean?

    That is where my 10 sets are, in that limbo. Of course the other crap i ordered came today.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • 08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭
    You could try to contact seller of this item and ask for a reference..

    gemsbob

    He bought a $2000 coin from him last month but hasn't left feedback yet.

    Rookie Joe


  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭


    << <i>Email him and tell him to confirm his address. You are in the drivers seat. You have the hot item not him.

    also, like mentioned since it is over 250.00 you must get the signature at delivery.


    Why do all the good deals always heve to have a snag?

    Steve >>



    Thanks Steve, so I will email him and ask that he fix the unconfirmed address thing with paypal right? Then I do what? Thanks in advance...
  • 08HALA2008HALA20 Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭


    << <i>By the way, What does 'in stock and reserved' Mean?

    That is where my 10 sets are, in that limbo. Of course the other crap i ordered came today.


    Steve >>




    If the cancel button is gone you should be good to go.
    Probably on its way. Check credit card to see if it is preauthorized.

    Joe
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Steve, so I will email him and ask that he fix the unconfirmed address thing with paypal right



    Yes with paypal, he can get his address confirmed with them.
    Once he has done that you can send him the coins. Just make sure you send it where a signature is required.


    Steve
    Good for you.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    ahhh, my cancel button is still there.


    Oh well, No biggie.

    Steve
    Good for you.
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Thanks guys, tomorrow night, I'm going out!!!image We are walking downtown, I'm pretty sure my city has more bars per square mile than any in the U.S., at least that's what I've heard...

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