So What Do You Think NGC Graded This Large Sized Capped Bust Quarter? *Grade and comments posted und

stman · October 14, 2005 4:44PM

Thought I'd throw this up here for the heck of it. These are so tough to find. Even tougher than the Capped Bust halves.
I will also go out on a limb and say in my opinion this piece is completely original. And I don't say that too often these
days with Bust material. It has very attractive luster as well as being nice and crusty/crunchy.

So what you think NGC said about this one? Keep in mind it's a quarter, and much smaller than this huge image that
mgoodm3 did such a nice job on.

Thanks for all the good words folks. The most obvious wear is on the ribbon to the left of the clasp, the outside upper edge of the
left wing facing, and the eagles talons.
Some of the other high areas is almost nothing, again figure how huge this image is.
I happen to agree with the AU-58 grade NGC gave it. This wasn't graded
recently, and I suspect it could go up if submitted a couple times (basically a crap shoot). It won't be by me though. I like it in the correctly graded holder. And grades on the holder are forgotten by me once I purchase. Once in a while I'll throw one up here for fun though.
And BTW, the flavor holder was not even a thought when purchasing this piece.

oldcameoproofsguy · October 14, 2005 4:45PM

55?

oldcameoproofsguy · October 14, 2005 4:46PM

Oh yeah, I really like the look of that one too!

Cladiator · October 14, 2005 5:23PM

Nice B4 quarter ST. I'd hazard to guess AU50. He really did a great job with the photos and the color. Night and day difference between this photo and the earlier one. Makes me want to send him my 1832 that has killer colors but every time I photograph it the thing comes out looking blotchy and nasty.

ROBERTB · October 14, 2005 5:29PM

Elcontador · October 14, 2005 5:37PM

It's a high end AU from what I can tell re the image. These coins are tough to grade because of the open collar strike. There appears to be some slight wear in the curls opposite the neck. Ditto re the clasp, curls above the clap and the hair below RTY. On the reverse, you see some wear on the wingtips and the egale's neck.

I like the consistency of the coin's color its surfaces.

Cladiator · October 14, 2005 5:39PM

I think my favorite part of this coin is the "mole" of a centering dot on the obverse

stman · October 14, 2005 5:58PM

<< <i>I think my favorite part of this coin is the "mole" of a centering dot on the obverse

>>

Thanks man

it's a piece of food.

Cladiator · October 14, 2005 6:01PM

<< <i>

<< <i>I think my favorite part of this coin is the "mole" of a centering dot on the obverse

>>

Thanks man

it's a piece of food. >>

If it is, it's a 184 year old piece of food lol

USAROK · October 14, 2005 6:55PM

AU58

Bear · October 14, 2005 7:13PM

AU-53 But a beautiful coin anyone would love to own.

Coinhusker1 · October 14, 2005 7:33PM

Spectacular coin!

AU55, but worth more than AU55 money!! Could go NGC AU58.

TahoeDale · October 14, 2005 8:46PM

Stman

Very nice. Could go as high as MS 62, and if it is not MS, then AU58.

Congrats !!

JoesMaName · October 14, 2005 9:10PM

Great coin!

I would grade it a 58

With luck you got a 60!

TorinoCobra71 · October 14, 2005 9:18PM

AU50.............

TorinoCobra71

netrubicon · October 14, 2005 9:46PM

Looks AU-53. I only say this because it looks a lot like something I just got back. Im sure its one of those expensive die-varietys because I remember reading about it somewhere before. That little spot on the neck is the dead giveaway. Since you mentioned it was in an NGC holder,
it could probably be a 58. I really like the 1821s

BigD5 · October 14, 2005 9:46PM

That's one of those au/58-ms/62 no man's land type of grade coins.

Wonderful surfaces and great eye appeal.

I really like it.

Rampage · October 14, 2005 9:57PM

Beautiful coin. It looks very original and I woudl make a guess of MS63.

ChangeInHistory · October 14, 2005 10:04PM

FatMan · October 14, 2005 10:05PM

Very nice dirty old coin. My bust coinage novice guess is AU55. I have no clue what NGC graded it.

MFH · October 14, 2005 10:20PM

Coin looks AU55 but I bet NGC graded it AU58.

Awesome looking Bust Quarter.

roadrunner · October 14, 2005 11:13PM

AU58+ due to the high point rub on the eagle's left talon, and other spots. If the coin were slightly better struck, I'd bet they would have graded this a MS61 or 62. Very very close to getting that
grade imo.

roadrunner

cape · October 14, 2005 11:19PM

nice coin ngc ms61

LeeG · October 14, 2005 11:38PM

"Sweet" pickup stman

These are very, very, tough to find this nice for somewhat resonable $. I agree with the majority here that it's high AU and maybe low MS depending on the "Coin God's"

Congrat's

LanLord · October 14, 2005 11:44PM

I feel terrible for you putting up with such old crusty monitary units. Send it to me, I'll return to you a fresh specimin of similar face value. One that looks much newer than your poor, pathetic piece of ... well let's just say it... it's too old to even consider.

Very nice, somehow I like busty quarters better than their half dollar relatives (and I like them a lot too!).

Lakesammman · October 14, 2005 11:52PM

Very nice - 58.

Tassa · October 15, 2005 12:47AM

Looks like an AU58 to me. Nice coin.

rainbowroosie · October 15, 2005 12:51AM

Nice 53

VTCoins · October 15, 2005 12:58AM

NumisOxide · October 15, 2005 1:01AM

AU53

marmac · October 15, 2005 1:02AM

jcping · October 15, 2005 1:05AM

AU50

cmanbb · October 15, 2005 1:18AM

stman,

I had the pleasure of putting a date set of AU58 pieces together in the mid 90's. I did not have the 1823/2 or the 1827.
I had some NGC and some PCGS. With the experience I had with both services,
I would say NGC gave it an AU58...........................although I see and AU53 peice and a nice one at that.

Congrats on a nice find

Stuart · October 15, 2005 1:22AM

AU-55

JrGMan2004 · October 15, 2005 1:40AM

AU53-55... not quite sure... looks good though, and I love that die crack on the right side coming out of the bust

BTW... I think stman would approve

DennisH · October 15, 2005 2:01AM

I'd say AU53

TUMUSS · October 15, 2005 2:01AM

Looks 50 - 53.....NGC grade -> 55 - 58

mgoodm3 · October 15, 2005 2:13AM

The grade is...... already know it so I won't cheat. My question is more of an observation. Why do all of the "T"'s on the rev have a big notch in them. DId they have a defective punch? Does it show up in other issues?

It's quite pretty in person.

Stuart · October 15, 2005 2:31AM

Whatever the grade, the coin is a truly beautiful and original Bust Quarter, which as STMan mentioned are much scarcer than Bust Halves.
Beautiful Coin STMan!! Thanks for sharing her with us!!

Mark: Great detailed observation on the "T" 's they must have had a defective punch that was used to punch all of the "T" 's to create the die...

dizzyfoxx · October 15, 2005 2:50AM

I'd guess AU-58 or better and I really like the coin!

pursuitofliberty · October 15, 2005 3:00AM

Looks like a 55-58 from the picture, and an outstnding example at that!

As far as the grade NGC gave it, could be anywhere from 55 to 63

TomB · October 15, 2005 3:09AM

Nice frickin' coin and I will take the easy way out and say AU something.

mozin · October 15, 2005 9:06AM

That is one pretty 1821 B-4 die state III with all the cracks and clashes. NGC should have given it at least AU 58.

Thanks stman for waiting so long stating the NGC grade; I missed this thread earlier today.

coinguy1 · October 15, 2005 9:13AM

I grade it "cool" and AU58. I'd be shocked it it graded less than AU55, and a low grade MS grade would not surprise me.

grip · October 15, 2005 9:15AM

AU 50.
AL

stman · October 15, 2005 9:47AM

Thanks for all the replies and comments. Grade and my comments posted under image at beginning of thread.

coinguy1 · October 15, 2005 9:55AM

<< <i>Grade and my comments posted under image at beginning of thread. >>

Geeze, now we have to hit yet another key to learn the answers

Hobbyist · October 15, 2005 10:03AM

Awesome coin!

I gave it an AU58 as it looks like it spent 2 days in circulation...and then about 67,000 days out of circulation.

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