<< <i>Just did a BIN on this box. The seller has 7947 feedback with only 2 negatives.
I had to do it..... $49.99 plus $7.95 sh. Sealed factory box. 24 8 card packs
>>
John Excellent price even with the ship and handling! Good job!
Dan Even tho you have a lot of dups, that will lead into the problem we had last year with commons - the national distribution may be wacky and there may be 8 guys looks for one of those dups!
Well, I'm off to see the wizard. (Target/Wal Mart/Toys r Us) I happen to have all 3 (plus a kmart) within 3 blocks or so of my work. Will report back on my findings in an hour or two.
By the way basilone, nice buy on that box. Looks like a retail box, $50/box is what I paid for my retail case on pre-sell so you did well. Looks like the odds are about the same as hobby for all the stuff that matters. I'll know more on Friday when I bust my case.
agreed. Your odds are so long on pulling a 1/1 cut sig anyway, there is really little to no difference.
**RETAIL REPORT*** Well, stopped at Wal-Mart, Target and Toys R' Us.
Wal-Mart - Had 2 packs of black diamond basketball and a lot of yu-gi-oh. nothing else....not even the variety boxes like most wal-marts.
Toys r us - nothing but yu-gi-oh
Target- 12x2 boxes of retail which had been thouroughly searched. the packs were all messed up, and wrinkled even. I was going to take a pic with my camera phone. No booster boxes though. So, that leads me to believe that either the booster boxes aren't out yet, or whoever searched the retail box grabbed all the booster boxes as well. I'll check some other targets over the next couple of days since this one gets their shipments on Wednesday mornings.
<< <i>my heritage retail case has arrived! details to follow.... >>
Best of luck! Will be interested.
Posted this info before - we have two (?) official threads - confusing.
Was at Toys r us today - looks bare.
Went to Target - the Excel rep (Alvin) was there - they are the vendor for target since they don't buy anything direct. He told me he is clueless when they will get TH. And for what it's worth, he refers to retail boxes that get opened - Pack Boxes as opposed to those that get sold closed as Full Boxes. He says that his stores usually get stocked in the evening unless he does it himself - in that case, they hold the boxes for him in the storage area.
Will be heading out the Wally world this eve most likely.
I collect Vintage Cards, Commemorative Sets, and way too many vintage and modern player collections in Baseball (180 players), Football (175 players), and Basketball (87 players). Also have a Dallas Cowboy team collection.
Thanks a lot guys......... I got the bug and had to go out to Target. They had the retail boxes all open. For $2.99 a pack, I wasn't going to buy the whole thing, so I just picked out 18. Nothing at all to report about until I got to the 16th pack and then I pulled a Ernie Banks Record card Auto 7/25. This is probably the nicest pull I've had in awhile. You guys sure know how to start a frenzy! Wick
Enjoy collecting vintage baseball cards, memorabilia and autos
I just bought a full box of retail in southern New Jersey. box was just recently opened and all packs were accounted for. Details to follow! My loving wife had NO in luck Target by our home.......
Wal Mart in Mays Landing New Jersey two boxes on the shelf that were just opened. Packs were very neatly filling the entire box so I ran off with one. Thought real hard of taking both but just in case they were searched (I really don't think so) I just took one ! Now, snow storm for tommorrow night and Friday! perfect Heritage time
1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs) #THC-13 Mike Lowell (#536/556)
3 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs) #THC-24 Adam Dunn (#1328/1956) #THC-75 Ian Bladergroen (#1132/1956) #THC-97 Brett Harper (#1347/1956)
12 Short Prints (1:2 packs) #110 Jorge Posada #125 Nomar Garciaparra (1956 Uniform) #260 Cesar Izturis #286 Hank Blalock (Fielding) #312 Lance Berkman (Fielding) #406 Craig Wilson #412 Melvin Mora #414 Carl Everett #416 Ben Sheets #420 Billy Butler #436 Corey Koskie #443 Bill Mueller
1 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs) #F-SM Stan Musial
3 New Ager Performers Inserts (1:15 packs) #NAP6 Jim Thome #NAP7 Derek Jeter #NAP12 David Ortiz
1 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs) #TN4 Bob Friend/Livan Hernandez
1 retail case: LOTS of light backs. rudy minarcin blue auto, matt cambell black chrome,f.robby seat card, bonds #1956 & light back bonds, soriano bat card, randy johnson #556,the usual sp's.
not 1 arod and only 1 pujols (black cap )
overall, i thought the retail case was better than the hobby.
4 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs) #THC-38 Lance Berkman (#1298/1956) #THC-41 Jeff Kent (#1290/1956) #THC-71 Chris Denorfia (#0834/1956) #THC-77 Luis Ramirez (#1593/1956)
12 Short Prints (1:2 packs) #50 Jim Thome (Fielding) #78 Edgardo Alfonzo (1956 Uniform) #130 Andruw Jones #273 Chipper Jones (Fielding) #402 Casey Kotchman #410 Shawn Estes #425 Gabe Gross #432 Ryan Goleski #438 Dontrelle Willis #440 Jason Kubel #444 Adam Kennedy #466 Brett Harper
2 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs) #F-BF Bob Feller #F-DL Don Larsen
1 New Ager Performers Inserts (1:15 packs) #NAP3 Ichiro
2 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs) #TN9 Bill Burton/Carl Crawford #TN10 Eddie Yost/Bobby Abreu
I'm starting to collate now and my boxes are yielding pretty good balance. Having said that, where I have a choice of 3 cards, I am picking the best one - I'm noticing a few cards with print lines or scratches - have checked with a lens yet and some very light vertical "dents" on the right side of the cards similar to the horizontal ones I saw last year but not as pronounced. No biggie, since Topps has a great return policy.
John You're doing great! I think I will buy some retail since I need the gum!
softparade RETAIL box break (Wal Mart Box) Thanks again to Basilone! I am using his box break format!
included many light backs, more than grey backs
Flashback Relic (1:96 packs) FR-DS Authentic Stadium Seat Ebbets Field / Duke Snider
1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs) #THC-83 Kevin West (#526/556)
3 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs) #THC-84 Chaz Lytle (#0543/1956) #THC-63 Paul Lo Duca (#1145/1956) #THC-42 Gary Sheffield (#1902/1956)
13 Short Prints (1:2 packs) #79 Kazuhisa Ishii #82 Tori Hunter (1956 Uniform) #118 Magglio Ordonez (1956 Uniform) #403 Chaz Lytle #405 Scott Spiezio #413 Aramis Ramirez #422 Jose Reyes #431 Josh Phelps #447 Eric Byrnes #455 Zack Greinke #458 Michael Cuddyer #467 Juan Gonzalez #470 C. C. Sabathia
1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs) #THC-69 Chris Seddon (#225/556)
3 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs) #THC-4 Alfonso Soriano (#0376/1956) #THC-34 Luis Gonzalez (#0529/1956) #THC-103 Kazuhito Tadano (#1546/1956)
12 Short Prints (1:2 packs) #31 Albert Pujols (Blue Hat) #110 Jorge Posada #260 Cesar Izturis #286 Hank Blalock (Fielding) #404 Alexis Rios #412 Melvin Mora #420 Billy Butler #427 Ty Wigginton #443 Bill Mueller #456 Sean Marshall #462 Moises Alou #473 Javier Vazquez
11 Short Prints (1:2 packs) #31 Albert Pujols (Blue Hat) #273 Chipper Jones (Fielding) #425 Gabe Gross #438 Dontrelle Willis #450 Jose Valentin #453 Alex Gonzalez #457 Erubiel Durazo #462 Moises Alou #469 Todd Walker #472 Mark Kotsay #474 Mike Cameron
3 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs) #F-FR Frank Robinson #F-LA Luis Aparicio #F-SM Stan Musial
1 New Ager Performers Inserts (1:15 packs) #NAP8 Sammy Sosa
2 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs) #TN1 Hank Aaron/Ichiro #TN3 Robin Roberts/Livan Hernandez
<< <i>After 4 boxes...no new "light backs" to add to the master list. It still stands at 220 cards. >>
I am not surprised to see it stay at 220. Topps typically uses 55 card groups now for issues (3x55=165 Bowman Draft Picks, 4x55=220 Bowman Chrome football, 2x55=110 cards in Topps Heritage Chrome, etc.). That is because the sheets are 110 cards (10 wide by 11 down). This list may go higher, but do not be surprised if 220 is the magic number.
Can someone please list the sp's and variations again. I just picked up two hobby boxes and would like to have a clue before I bust them so I know what i'm looking for.
Also, did someone mention once about returning damaged (or in some cases not so damaged) cards directly to Topps for replacement cards? Does this work?
Local Target had 3 open 24-pack boxes, no blasters. I decided to go with 2 8-packers of Bowman Draft and 2 loose Heritage packs. Got zip out of the Heritage, and nothing too exciting out of the BDP, either. I guess my luck for the week was blown on comics and winning some tough 75s on ebay cheap.
WANTED: 2005 Origins Old Judge Brown #/20 and Black 1/1s, 2000 Ultimate Victory Gold #/25 2004 UD Legends Bake McBride autos & parallels, and 1974 Topps #601 PSA 9 Rare Grady Sizemore parallels, printing plates, autographs
<< <i>Can someone please list the sp's and variations again. I just picked up two hobby boxes and would like to have a clue before I bust them so I know what i'm looking for. Also, did someone mention once about returning damaged (or in some cases not so damaged) cards directly to Topps for replacement cards? Does this work? Thanks for any help. >>
Big Red and others
Topps Return:
1. Address: Topps, 401 York Ave., Duryea, PA, 18642-2035 - 800-489-9149; for replacement also put ATTENTION: Consumer Relations.
2. If you want to return "card for card" exchange - limit it to 25 cards - list the cards by number in order.
3. You can also send the cards for "random" replacement - I recommend this for commons since you will most likely get SP's as part of the random replacement - I sent them in 100 per request - no complaints and from a total of 200 (approx) replacements got back about 45-50 SP's!
don't worry about the condition they don't care - I ding them so that it is a no brainer!
4. The last time I sent cards in, they did request that in the future, I submit them with a proof of purchase or UPC code tab from the box.
5. I recommend that you give minimum insurance as a "record" of the submission in case there is a problem.
The service last year was lightning fast and cards came to me in good shape. This is definitely worth the time! I have noticed two problems this year - some cards with a slight vertical indentation on the left side near the white border and some very faint print lines/scratch also vertical around the portraits - nothing as bad as last year but still interesting - there's no reason for any of this crap - this is the simplest of production cards compared to the UV coated, "Dufex", Chromed technology of other cards IMO.
Any other questions, please LMK - I'm here for ya!
I have to ask a few questions about this issue to my respected fellow collectors. I have not gotten into collecting a modern issue for years. Last one I spent any money on was 96 Topps Baseball because of the Mantle influence. Yes, that was a waste. I have read posts about the virtues of Heritage from serious collectors since I have been visiting these boards, so it must be good stuff. IMO, vintage guys seem to have annointed it as a worthwhile modern issue they endorse.
So, my questions are as follows.....and I'm not being adversarial. I have never bought a pack. "Sell me" on the virtues. I'm stupid.
1. What makes this issue so special?
2. Basis posts, there appears to be a plethora of variations. I understand how this feeds the thrill of "the hunt", but variations in general across the board on modern issues is what typically turns off vintage collectors to pursuing/investing in modern issues. Am I wrong?
3. My take is that the Topps folks have done a great job at seeding some good stuff, but are "sneaking up" on everyone by including surprise variations. For those who were looking forward to the issue being released, do you feel at all that you were "hooked", and will now spend more money than you originally expected?
4. Besides the fun of pack-busting, if you were not going to re-sell some of your pulls immediately -- would you still invest in the set with the intent to try to complete it.....thinking it may have some value down the road?
Thanks guys. Hope this enlightens me and stimulates some discussion . Best regards.
"A man's got to know his limitations...." Dirty Harry
Harry It is the most successful "vintage" retro look set that is following a sequential theme of starting with the 1952T design and moving forward each year since 2001.
The design is clean and classic - and they added the chromes to "bridge" the gap between retro vintage and modern appeal.
The set is popular with vintage guys who still follow baseball and the players and wouldn't mind having some of the new RC's that would otherwise elude them.
Also affordability - you are talking about a 3 buck pack which is cheaper when you buy a hobby box early or the 'full pack' booster boxes at 11 packs for 30 bucks. That's a lot of entertainment for the money!!!
Good questions and fair enough. As a set builder of the 60's, I enjoy the hunt for the extra goodies. Now I do have to admit, the amount of money I pour into the Heritage setsis excessive. Typically, I bust 3-4 boxes and still end up buying a lot of the missing cards. If you do the math, the $300-$400 value puts me at a loss when I complete the set. I suppose that I enjoy the Heritage because of the nostalgic looks. The cards are cheaply made and must cost $10 bucks a box to produce. I like the Topps Bigs of '88-'89 much better. The Heritage set is the only modern set I have collected the last 3 years. I prefer to work on my 1968 set first and foremost. Most of the GU cards are sort of hokey. An old piece of wood from some chair with a star's picture on it-not much meaning here. Now with the hype starting on the light vs. the dark backs starting...not sure what this is all about. Many sets throughout the years had ink changes, etc. The bottom line, if you don't think you'll enjoy cracking an $80 box of cards, then don't. You won't come close to a set and you most likely won't get your money back unless you pull a desireable chase card. Out of 3 boxes, I got 1 M Cabrerra bat card, no autos, and no other goodies. Oh well, I still enjoy putting this set together, even if I put $400 into a set that will drop to $250-$300. It is called collecting, not investing. Good luck..John
CURRENT PROJECTS IN WORK: To be honest, no direction, but... 1966-69 Topps EX+ 1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9 All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
<< <i>Hate cherry pickers who want only your best, valuable cards. >>
Hi John That's how I feel about "pack searchers!"
Good words about Heritage. Every set collector is on a mission - a hunt...and it's not a sprint but rather a marathon journey till the last card is neatly pressed into place.
I don't mind people talking about picking up some money along the way while putting the set together - heck, Perry made some righteous bucks on his Robinson auto pull! As you said, this is a "collector" set and not for investment.
If you want a good item for investment - collect long term capital gains mutual funds with a good 20 year track record; balance that with a highly rated bond; throw in, perhaps a few high risk funds or stocks; some blue chips stocks (Valero oil has done nicely this year!); maybe tie up some in cash and heck - take a look in 20 years and hopefully your money has tripled! Just messin, I heard a guy say this today at the barber shop!
<< <i>I don't mind people talking about picking up some money along the way while putting the set together - heck, Perry made some righteous bucks on his Robinson auto pull! As you said, this is a "collector" set and not for investment. >>
its great to be able to flip a few cards for profit.. i was able to sell the frank auto and pay for the cards i want to keep, plus made a few extra bucks!
i dont think i will put a set together this year.. i've kinda decided i'll just collect the regular chrome refractors and a few cards of players i like..
Beuatiful cards, fellas. Picked up two hobby boxes earlier in the day, and then cleaned out Walmart tonight! Good fun ... great looking cards, and the occasional insert. Anyone send these in for grading?
NJMH-most of the cards I've seen coming out of my packs (456 packs so far) have some kind of damage. They are little better than last year, but I'm still seeing some roller marks, some chipping on the edges and a lot of the sp's/inserts found in the "money spot" are coming out with a dinged lower corner.
I just checked the pop report and there is nothing from 2005 yet, but here is all that has been graded in 04. Notice, only 12 cards.
2004 TOPPS HERITAGE CARD NO NAME VARIETY 6 8 9 10 TOTAL Total: 1 5 5 1 12 19 CHASE UTLEY 0 0 1 0 1 43 JOE BORAWSKI 1 0 0 0 1 100 ALEX RODRIGUEZ 0 1 0 0 1 120 FRANK THOMAS 0 0 2 0 2 200 ALBERT PUJOLS 0 2 1 1 4 279 DELMON YOUNG 0 1 0 0 1 332 SCOTT ROLEN 0 0 1 0 1 402 GARRET ANDERS 0 1 0 0 1
As you can see...(maybe) , there are 12 total cards graded, 1 a 6, 1 a 10, the majority were 8's. Looks like people graded some of the autos and the chromes and refractors more than the base cards.
I don't want to dig back and check so this may be redundant - here is a scan of the gray and light back variations.
Heritage hit San Antonio either last night or this morning - single pack retail but no full box boosters.
As Envoy said, the quality control is still lacking with this product - and IMO, there's no good excuse - if everyone sent cards back, they would get the message.
Still a great product! Not sure where they are going with this back variation thing. Also, did you notice that the cartoon is different in the regular vs. the SP variation on the base set?
Comments
Since you pulled a bunch of whites. Do you see less in the #'s 100-180?
Gator
<< <i>Since you pulled a bunch of whites. Do you see less in the #'s 100-180? >>
Yes..from what I have pulled. This list still shows a good number from that range though.
I have so many Rob Bell pics in this pile that my wife might think he is one of my cousins
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
My breaks are listed below. Lots of white backs....1 GU .... no autos.
Just did a BIN on this box. The seller has 7947 feedback with only 2 negatives.
I had to do it..... $49.99 plus $7.95 sh. Sealed factory box. 24 8 card packs
<< <i>Just did a BIN on this box. The seller has 7947 feedback with only 2 negatives.
I had to do it..... $49.99 plus $7.95 sh. Sealed factory box. 24 8 card packs
John
Excellent price even with the ship and handling! Good job!
Dan
Even tho you have a lot of dups, that will lead into the problem we had last year with commons - the national distribution may be wacky and there may be 8 guys looks for one of those dups!
your friend
Mike
By the way basilone, nice buy on that box. Looks like a retail box, $50/box is what I paid for my retail case on pre-sell so you did well. Looks like the odds are about the same as hobby for all the stuff that matters. I'll know more on Friday when I bust my case.
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BigCrumbs! I made over $250 last year!
Without the box toppers this year....pre-sell retail cases were the way to go..IMO.
But who would of thought Topps would of pulled the pennants?
**RETAIL REPORT***
Well, stopped at Wal-Mart, Target and Toys R' Us.
Wal-Mart - Had 2 packs of black diamond basketball and a lot of yu-gi-oh. nothing else....not even the variety boxes like most wal-marts.
Toys r us - nothing but yu-gi-oh
Target- 12x2 boxes of retail which had been thouroughly searched. the packs were all messed up, and wrinkled even. I was going to take a pic with my camera phone. No booster boxes though. So, that leads me to believe that either the booster boxes aren't out yet, or whoever searched the retail box grabbed all the booster boxes as well. I'll check some other targets over the next couple of days since this one gets their shipments on Wednesday mornings.
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BigCrumbs! I made over $250 last year!
During my last box I was looking for the light backs before pulling out the standard SP/Insert.
<< <i>my heritage retail case has arrived! details to follow.... >>
Best of luck!
Will be interested.
Posted this info before - we have two (?) official threads - confusing.
Was at Toys r us today - looks bare.
Went to Target - the Excel rep (Alvin) was there - they are the vendor for target since they don't buy anything direct. He told me he is clueless when they will get TH. And for what it's worth, he refers to retail boxes that get opened - Pack Boxes as opposed to those that get sold closed as
Full Boxes. He says that his stores usually get stocked in the evening unless he does it himself - in that case, they hold the boxes for him in the storage area.
Will be heading out the Wally world this eve most likely.
your friend
Mike
Wick
Enjoy collecting vintage baseball cards, memorabilia and autos
Bought 4 more hobby boxes today while picking up some hobbie supplies (funny how that can happen).
Will post my pulls later tonight. This will be Hobby Boxes #9-#12 for me.
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
23 SP's
REF's: #57 Overbay, #62 Garciapparra "Thank you beautiful", lame....
CHROME: #21 Rolen (2), #48 Bay, #39 Cabrera
11 different subset cards
62 Light backs
Red Schoendienst CC Bat card
Don Larsen Stadium Seat
Paul Minner Certified Auto. CUBS
I'm a lot happier than this weekend. Does anyone know if their are any Cardinal Auto's outta this set?
I'm ready to trade!
Ben
That's interesting about Target where you are - the rep here was clueless - maybe he's always clueless!LOL
Dan
Where did you get the retail? The supply boats must run slower here!
your friend
Mike
Wal Mart in Mays Landing New Jersey
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
<< <i>Bought 4 more hobby boxes today while picking up some hobbie supplies >>
John
what was the hobby shop asking for the heritage?
your friend
Mike
$65 per box out the door.
Just got 4 packs tonight at a Northern Illinois Target. They had two open boxes of 24.
Just wanted to get a flavor and am waiting for the bonus boxes.
Still I got 2 sp's and 2 chromes (?):
THC-2 Warren Giles 0042/1956
THC-87 Jose Vaquedano 1218/1956
No duplicates, but also no Cubs
What a great looking set. Ive always loved the '56 design. This could be a set I might try to complete.
No "light backs"
Clubhouse Collection (Overall Relics/Autos...1:36 packs)
None
1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs)
#THC-13 Mike Lowell (#536/556)
3 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs)
#THC-24 Adam Dunn (#1328/1956)
#THC-75 Ian Bladergroen (#1132/1956)
#THC-97 Brett Harper (#1347/1956)
12 Short Prints (1:2 packs)
#110 Jorge Posada
#125 Nomar Garciaparra (1956 Uniform)
#260 Cesar Izturis
#286 Hank Blalock (Fielding)
#312 Lance Berkman (Fielding)
#406 Craig Wilson
#412 Melvin Mora
#414 Carl Everett
#416 Ben Sheets
#420 Billy Butler
#436 Corey Koskie
#443 Bill Mueller
1 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs)
#F-SM Stan Musial
3 New Ager Performers Inserts (1:15 packs)
#NAP6 Jim Thome
#NAP7 Derek Jeter
#NAP12 David Ortiz
1 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs)
#TN4 Bob Friend/Livan Hernandez
3 Checklist cards
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
not 1 arod and only 1 pujols (black cap )
overall, i thought the retail case was better than the hobby.
included "Light Backs"
Clubhouse Collection (Overall Relics/Autos...1:36 packs)
FR-EB Ernie Banks - Wrigley Field Seat
1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs)
#THC-85 Elvys Quezada (Yankees Rookie) (#425/556)
4 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs)
#THC-38 Lance Berkman (#1298/1956)
#THC-41 Jeff Kent (#1290/1956)
#THC-71 Chris Denorfia (#0834/1956)
#THC-77 Luis Ramirez (#1593/1956)
12 Short Prints (1:2 packs)
#50 Jim Thome (Fielding)
#78 Edgardo Alfonzo (1956 Uniform)
#130 Andruw Jones
#273 Chipper Jones (Fielding)
#402 Casey Kotchman
#410 Shawn Estes
#425 Gabe Gross
#432 Ryan Goleski
#438 Dontrelle Willis
#440 Jason Kubel
#444 Adam Kennedy
#466 Brett Harper
2 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs)
#F-BF Bob Feller
#F-DL Don Larsen
1 New Ager Performers Inserts (1:15 packs)
#NAP3 Ichiro
2 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs)
#TN9 Bill Burton/Carl Crawford
#TN10 Eddie Yost/Bobby Abreu
2 Checklist cards
John
You're doing great! I think I will buy some retail since I need the gum!
your friend
Mike
included many light backs, more than grey backs
Flashback Relic (1:96 packs)
FR-DS Authentic Stadium Seat Ebbets Field / Duke Snider
1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs)
#THC-83 Kevin West (#526/556)
3 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs)
#THC-84 Chaz Lytle (#0543/1956)
#THC-63 Paul Lo Duca (#1145/1956)
#THC-42 Gary Sheffield (#1902/1956)
13 Short Prints (1:2 packs)
#79 Kazuhisa Ishii
#82 Tori Hunter (1956 Uniform)
#118 Magglio Ordonez (1956 Uniform)
#403 Chaz Lytle
#405 Scott Spiezio
#413 Aramis Ramirez
#422 Jose Reyes
#431 Josh Phelps
#447 Eric Byrnes
#455 Zack Greinke
#458 Michael Cuddyer
#467 Juan Gonzalez
#470 C. C. Sabathia
2 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs)
#F-FR Frank Robinson
#F-HA Hank Aaron
2 New Ager Performers Inserts (1:15 packs)
#NAP14 Nomar Garciaparra
#NAP13 Gary Sheffield
1 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs)
#TN10 Eddie Yost/Bobby Abreu
2 Checklist cards
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
No "Light Backs"
Clubhouse Collection (Overall Relics/Autos...1:36 packs)
None
1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs)
#THC-69 Chris Seddon (#225/556)
3 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs)
#THC-4 Alfonso Soriano (#0376/1956)
#THC-34 Luis Gonzalez (#0529/1956)
#THC-103 Kazuhito Tadano (#1546/1956)
12 Short Prints (1:2 packs)
#31 Albert Pujols (Blue Hat)
#110 Jorge Posada
#260 Cesar Izturis
#286 Hank Blalock (Fielding)
#404 Alexis Rios
#412 Melvin Mora
#420 Billy Butler
#427 Ty Wigginton
#443 Bill Mueller
#456 Sean Marshall
#462 Moises Alou
#473 Javier Vazquez
2 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs)
#F-FR Frank Robinson
#F-HA Hank Aaron
1 New Ager Performers Inserts (1:15 packs)
#NAP5 Vladimir Guerrero
2 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs)
#TN7 Clem Labine/Mariano Rivera
#TN8 Jimmy Piersall/Lyle Overbay
3 Checklist cards
Box had "Light Backs"
REAL ONE AUTOGRAPHS (Overall Relics/Autos...1:330 packs)
#RO-MI MONTE IRVIN "BLUE INK" AUTO (200 made)...my 2nd Real One Auto!!
1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs)
#THC-31 Barry Zito (#367/556)
3 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs)
#THC-9 Mark Prior (#1775/1956)
#THC-36 Hank Blalock (#0913/1956)
#THC-38 Lance Berkman (#0786/1956)
11 Short Prints (1:2 packs)
#31 Albert Pujols (Blue Hat)
#273 Chipper Jones (Fielding)
#425 Gabe Gross
#438 Dontrelle Willis
#450 Jose Valentin
#453 Alex Gonzalez
#457 Erubiel Durazo
#462 Moises Alou
#469 Todd Walker
#472 Mark Kotsay
#474 Mike Cameron
3 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs)
#F-FR Frank Robinson
#F-LA Luis Aparicio
#F-SM Stan Musial
1 New Ager Performers Inserts (1:15 packs)
#NAP8 Sammy Sosa
2 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs)
#TN1 Hank Aaron/Ichiro
#TN3 Robin Roberts/Livan Hernandez
3 Checklist cards
Allen & Ginter Cards
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After 4 boxes...no new "light backs" to add to the master list. It still stands at 220 cards.
<< <i>After 4 boxes...no new "light backs" to add to the master list. It still stands at 220 cards. >>
I am not surprised to see it stay at 220. Topps typically uses 55 card groups now for issues (3x55=165 Bowman Draft Picks, 4x55=220 Bowman Chrome football, 2x55=110 cards in Topps Heritage Chrome, etc.). That is because the sheets are 110 cards (10 wide by 11 down). This list may go higher, but do not be surprised if 220 is the magic number.
"My dad wanted me to be a baseball player."
Also, did someone mention once about returning damaged (or in some cases not so damaged) cards directly to Topps for replacement cards? Does this work?
Thanks for any help.
No "Light Backs"
Flash Back Relic (1:96 packs)
1 Authentic Stadium Seat Sportsman's Park St Louis / Stan Musial
1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs)
#THC-99 Kole Strayhorn (#512/556)
3 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs)
#THC-20 Sammy Sosa (#0360/1956)
#THC-104 Kazuhisa Ishii (#0799/1956)
#THC-63 Paul Lo Duca (#1113/1956)
ONLY 4 SHORT PRINTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Short Prints (1:2 packs)
#415 Elvys Quezada
#426 Scott Rolen
#429 Pedro Martinez
#446 Sean Burnett
2 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs)
#F-FR Frank Robinson
#F-EB Ernie Banks
1 New Ager Performers Inserts (1:15 packs)
#NAP13 Gary Sheffield
2 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs)
#TN3 Robin Roberts/Livian Hernandez
#TN4 Bob Friend/Livian Hernandez
2 Checklist cards
ISO 1978 Topps Baseball in NM-MT High Grade Raw 3, 100, 103, 302, 347, 376, 416, 466, 481, 487, 509, 534, 540, 554, 579, 580, 622, 642, 673, 724__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ISO 1978 O-Pee-Chee in NM-MT High Grade Raw12, 21, 29, 38, 49, 65, 69, 73, 74, 81, 95, 100, 104, 110, 115, 122, 132, 133, 135, 140, 142, 151, 153, 155, 160, 161, 167, 168, 172, 179, 181, 196, 200, 204, 210, 224, 231, 240
Ryan
2005 Origins Old Judge Brown #/20 and Black 1/1s, 2000 Ultimate Victory Gold #/25
2004 UD Legends Bake McBride autos & parallels, and 1974 Topps #601 PSA 9
Rare Grady Sizemore parallels, printing plates, autographs
Nothing on ebay
<< <i>Can someone please list the sp's and variations again. I just picked up two hobby boxes and would like to have a clue before I bust them so I know what i'm looking for.
Also, did someone mention once about returning damaged (or in some cases not so damaged) cards directly to Topps for replacement cards? Does this work?
Thanks for any help. >>
Big Red and others
Topps Return:
1. Address: Topps, 401 York Ave., Duryea, PA, 18642-2035 - 800-489-9149; for replacement also put ATTENTION: Consumer Relations.
2. If you want to return "card for card" exchange - limit it to 25 cards - list the cards by number in order.
3. You can also send the cards for "random" replacement - I recommend this for commons since you will most likely get SP's as part of the random replacement - I sent them in 100 per request - no complaints and from a total of 200 (approx) replacements got back about 45-50 SP's!
don't worry about the condition they don't care - I ding them so that it is a no brainer!
4. The last time I sent cards in, they did request that in the future, I submit them with a proof of purchase or UPC code tab from the box.
5. I recommend that you give minimum insurance as a "record" of the submission in case there is a problem.
The service last year was lightning fast and cards came to me in good shape. This is definitely worth the time!
I have noticed two problems this year - some cards with a slight vertical indentation on the left side near the white border and some very faint print lines/scratch also vertical around the portraits - nothing as bad as last year but still interesting - there's no reason for any of this crap - this is the simplest of production cards compared to the UV coated, "Dufex", Chromed technology of other cards IMO.
Any other questions, please LMK - I'm here for ya!
your friend
Mike
So, my questions are as follows.....and I'm not being adversarial. I have never bought a pack. "Sell me" on the virtues. I'm stupid.
1. What makes this issue so special?
2. Basis posts, there appears to be a plethora of variations. I understand how this feeds the thrill of "the hunt", but variations in general across the board on modern issues is what typically turns off vintage collectors to pursuing/investing in modern issues. Am I wrong?
3. My take is that the Topps folks have done a great job at seeding some good stuff, but are "sneaking up" on everyone by including surprise variations. For those who were looking forward to the issue being released, do you feel at all that you were "hooked", and will now spend more money than you originally expected?
4. Besides the fun of pack-busting, if you were not going to re-sell some of your pulls immediately -- would you still invest in the set with the intent to try to complete it.....thinking it may have some value down the road?
Thanks guys. Hope this enlightens me and stimulates some discussion . Best regards.
Unfocused, impulsive collector of everything ...
<< <i>What makes this issue so special? >>
Harry
It is the most successful "vintage" retro look set that is following a sequential theme of starting with the 1952T design and moving forward each year since 2001.
The design is clean and classic - and they added the chromes to "bridge" the gap between retro vintage and modern appeal.
The set is popular with vintage guys who still follow baseball and the players and wouldn't mind having some of the new RC's that would otherwise elude them.
Also affordability - you are talking about a 3 buck pack which is cheaper when you buy a hobby box early or the 'full pack' booster boxes at 11 packs for 30 bucks. That's a lot of entertainment for the money!!!
your friend
Mike
To be honest, no direction, but...
1966-69 Topps EX+
1975 minis NrMt Kelloggs PSA 9
All Topps Heritage-Master Sets
<< <i>Hate cherry pickers who want only your best, valuable cards. >>
Hi John
That's how I feel about "pack searchers!"
Good words about Heritage. Every set collector is on a mission - a hunt...and it's not a sprint but rather a marathon journey till the last card is neatly pressed into place.
I don't mind people talking about picking up some money along the way while putting the set together - heck, Perry made some righteous bucks on his Robinson auto pull! As you said, this is a "collector" set and not for investment.
If you want a good item for investment - collect long term capital gains mutual funds with a good 20 year track record; balance that with a highly rated bond; throw in, perhaps a few high risk funds or stocks; some blue chips stocks (Valero oil has done nicely this year!); maybe tie up some in cash and heck - take a look in 20 years and hopefully your money has tripled! Just messin, I heard a guy say this today at the barber shop!
your friend
Mike
<< <i>I don't mind people talking about picking up some money along the way while putting the set together - heck, Perry made some righteous bucks on his Robinson auto pull! As you said, this is a "collector" set and not for investment.
>>
its great to be able to flip a few cards for profit.. i was able to sell the frank auto and pay for the cards i want to keep, plus made a few extra bucks!
i dont think i will put a set together this year.. i've kinda decided i'll just collect the regular chrome refractors and a few cards of players i like..
I just checked the pop report and there is nothing from 2005 yet, but here is all that has been graded in 04. Notice, only 12 cards.
2004 TOPPS HERITAGE
CARD NO NAME VARIETY 6 8 9 10 TOTAL
Total: 1 5 5 1 12
19 CHASE UTLEY 0 0 1 0 1
43 JOE BORAWSKI 1 0 0 0 1
100 ALEX RODRIGUEZ 0 1 0 0 1
120 FRANK THOMAS 0 0 2 0 2
200 ALBERT PUJOLS 0 2 1 1 4
279 DELMON YOUNG 0 1 0 0 1
332 SCOTT ROLEN 0 0 1 0 1
402 GARRET ANDERS 0 1 0 0 1
As you can see...(maybe)
Looks like people graded some of the autos and the chromes and refractors more than the base cards.
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BigCrumbs! I made over $250 last year!
Heritage hit San Antonio either last night or this morning - single pack retail but no full box boosters.
As Envoy said, the quality control is still lacking with this product - and IMO, there's no good excuse - if everyone sent cards back, they would get the message.
Still a great product! Not sure where they are going with this back variation thing. Also, did you notice that the cartoon is different in the regular vs. the SP variation on the base set?
your friend
Mike