+++ THE OFFICIAL 2005 TOPPS HERITAGE THREAD...ANY POSTS REGARDING HERITAGE...ONLY POST HERE +++

Basilone

Welcome Heritage Collectors (and potential Heritage collectors).

Lets make this the ONE and ONLY tread from here on out (Feb 22nd) with posts regarding 2005 Topps Heritage.

We need everyone to follow along to make this work...which will make reading the boards much easier for not only us but the non-heritage collectors as well.

Once again...if anyone wants a excel spreadsheet for the 2001-2005 Topps Heritage Releases (including descriptions of the 2005 SPs)...please shoot me an email at jbasilone@adelphia.net

Thanks!!

highend

i think this is a good idea, i didn't realize how many heritage thrads there were.

Basilone

See current post for updated light back list.

BugOnTheRug

You need to start a 'Master' official heritage thread. How many freakin threads does 2005H need anyway?

BOTR

Basilone

BOTR - Read the title of this thread. An effort is being made.

86nova

Heritage Collectors---- I really hate to do this. This A.M. I uncovered the following white backs:

14 148 206 280 324 371
83 150 215 282 333 377
91 154 219 284 342 382
99 156 220 289 343 385
102 158 234 290 345 386
104 160 240 291 347 391
106 168 243 302 348 393
114 174 246 305 354 394
117 176 247 306 355
122 177 263 308 356
128 180 265 310 357
131 189 272 313 359
132 191 275 317 361
133 197 278 320 363
136 200 323
147 205

There are 83 in the list. None of the 83 were contained in tne Basilone list. There were 3 cards in this lot that were in the Basilone listing (244, 274, and 319).These were all contained within two boxes. 86nova (Craig).

pandrews

why not this thread?

Basilone

PAndrews-

Lets start fresh from here. Let the other threads go down the list.

This really isnt that hard.

Basilone

86 Nova-

Do you have scans of a couple of the cards?

Are you going for a set of them. I would trade my extra white backs for your dups.

highend

wow , that's a big addition, i'm starting to wonder if all the base cards have a "light back" version.

pandrews

<< <i>PAndrews-

Lets start fresh from here. Let the other threads go down the list.

This really isnt that hard. >>



i understand that the the difficulty level is minimal, i just noticed the 2 separate "official 2005 topps heritage threads" on the same page, and thought it was kinda funny..

Basilone

<< <i>wow , that's a big addition, i'm starting to wonder if all the base cards have a "light back" version. >>



Tell me about it....I spent some time updating my personal want lists etc...and now its blown out of the water.

Basilone

JoeStalin-

Just post to this thread. We need to clean up the clutter on this boards...as it is Pi$$ing off anyone else who doesnt collect heritage.

John

Stone193

Hi John
Excellent idea! Keep it all, at this point, on one thread. Having said that, if someone starts another thread about Heritage - for any reason what so ever, it's their right to do so.

I'm growing very weary of the control freaks around here! Last time I checked, no one pays for the privilege of posting here and if you read a thread title and don't want to select it for viewing, that's your decision.

Thanx
your friend
Mike

Knopfler

What if we have a post about the 2005 Topps Heritage Nolan Ryan Auto? Which one should we post it to?

orion9578

I saw another post on someone finding retail in walmart. Is it 05? If not, though Im sure this has been answered 5-10 times, when will 05 be at retail? I would just reply to the other thread but I'll just post it here lol.

highend

i was cleaning out a few bins of cards today and i came across what appaers to be a nearly complete 2001 heritage master set including black and red backs. anyone interested in it ?

MajorDanby

here are my results for the hobby box i bought the other day

14 SP's (including bonds)
3 Chromes (clippard, pedro martinez and some guy i forgot)
1 Refractor (luis ramirez)
1 Then and Now (piersall/overbay)
2 New Age Performers (ortiz, soriano)
2 Flashbacks (feller, larsen)

a little dissapointed with the inserts, but thats not the reason why i bought the box. great design and love the old time smell.

and the gum is tasty!!

BugOnTheRug

<< <i>BOTR - Read the title of this thread. An effort is being made. >>



Yes, I read the title. You can't miss it as it has that ebay 'gotta LQQK!' look. Just seems like you're reinventing the wheel, as Mud is already 150+ posts into 2005H.

Not knocking the effort, just how to define 'official'.

Moving on, I'm a potential enthusiest of Heritage. Any info on costs associated with 2005 complete sets and earlier would be appreciated.

BOTR

DeutscherGeist

Good. Last night I had to make a point that too many Heritage threads exist with overlapping information. I like reading about heritage but it was getting out of hand where some new and insightful information can be found. I am glad Basilone got the hint and corrected the problem with this unified thread. Thanks!

I enjoy this new Topps Heritage and having one thread will make it easier to enjoy.

I did not mean to offend anyone by bumping up all the heritage threads, but it was a way to illustrate how obsurd it was getting.

Stone193

DG and BOTR
I see what you mean and apologize for the strong words - I should never respond to something while at work with people yelling in my ear. LOL

This is different than somebody just arbitrarily determining what threads are OK. Again, I was wrong to sound off.

your friend
Mike

Basilone

<< <i>Yes, I read the title. You can't miss it as it has that ebay 'gotta LQQK!' look. Just seems like you're reinventing the wheel, as Mud is already 150+ posts into 2005H. >>



That was the point so people will just post to one thread.

There are many other collectors who read this board besides Heritage collectors. I would be annoyed too.

Cubfan

Anybody seen any Heritage in retail outlets yet?

kuhlmann

does anybody know if its confirmed that bonds is an sp or not?? he is all i need for the base set. if he is an sp then i got it.??

envoy98

nope, not yet. Probably wont see it until Saturday, or Tuesday.

packman

Walmart in my area (south Florida) told me they are getting their shipment on Thursday.

AkbarClone

I wish the "one thread police" would go over to the "Buy, Sell, Trade" boards and take care of "Namesty" and his 1-3 spam threads he creates every day spamming the same thing over and over.

Oh, and to keep it on topic--I'm bidding on some 2005 Topps Heritage cards on eBay! Yea! At least my money will go to someone who wants to sell them to me.

chicago111

Went to 3 wally worlds today and a few other dept stores. None had them in yet. Just happen to see the person in charge of the cards at one of the wally worlds and she said they would be in on Thurs. Your results may vary.

Chuck

Cubfan

Hmmmmmmm, I just read one of the "unofficial" threads and someone noted that they bought a couple of boxes from WalMart.

Maybe I will have to drive by on the way home tonight.

packman

I posted this under the old trading partner thread.

I have the following cards available for trade:

Insert: F-LA and F-SM

Auto: Topps Legend - Podres

SP: 5, 50 (Fielding), 78 (Old Logo), 82 (Old Logo), 130, 155 (Old Logo), 273 (Blue Background), 296 (Old Logo), 353 (Old Logo), 402, 410, 417, 425, 428, 432, 438, 440, 444, 445, 448, 450, 453, 457, 461, 462, 465, 466, 468, 469, 471, 472, 473 and 474.

Base: most cards not listed below as a "need".

G/U: FR-LA, FR-FR, CCR-AP Pujols, CCR-AR A-Rod, CCR-LA and CCR-MT.

Refractors (xx/556): 9 Prior, 59 Schilling, 64, 73 Ryan Sweeney, 87, 90, 93, 108, 109 and 110.

I need the following cards:

Insert: NAP 1-7, NAP 10(2), NAP 11-15; F-HA, F-HS, TN1-2 and TN4-7. In addition, I would like one extra set of each.

SP: 20, 30, 135 (non-fielding variation), 261 (Batting), 400, 409, 424, 435, 437, 442, 459 and 475.

Base: 2 of each: 200, 263, 291, 317, 361, 363, 391 and 394.

1 of each: 14, 61 Bonds, 62, 91, 99, 102, 104, 106, 117, 128, 131, 132, 133, 136, 144, 147, 148, 154, 156, 160, 168, 173, 174, 176, 177, 180, 181, 191, 197, 201, 205, 206, 215, 219, 220, 234, 240, 241, 243, 246, 250, 253, 265, 272, 275, 280, 284, 290, 302, 305, 310, 313, 320, 337, 342, 345, 349, 354, 355, 357, 359, 380, 385 and 386.

Chrome: 3, 5, 8-13, 15, 17-24, 26, 27, 29-31, 35-45, 48-50, 52, 53, 55-57, 59-64, 66, 67, 69-71, 74-80, 82-86, 93, 96-99, 101, 102, 104, 105, 107-110.

Thanks, David

envoy98

***UPDATE***
I just talked to Chris from blowout. Retail cases arrived with him today, so all the distributors should have theirs today as well. I would expect to see the boxes on retail shelves sometime this week.

My case should be here by Friday.

I'll check the Target next to my work tomorrow as I'm fairly certain they wont have any today. I will post my findings tomorrow.

RipublicaninMass

To make evryone happy I went today to...........drum roll please
Target=none
Walmart=none
Toys-b-us=none
thanks for looking...wil be in FULL force in the coming days, although it looks like whoever bought those boxes at walmart didn't even yeild 1 sp per pack????????!?!?!?!

envoy98

The regular retail didn't last year either. It was the 11pk booster boxes that were yielding the 1/pk.

Knopfler

Do the boosters normally come out at the same time as regular retail?

Stone193

<< <i>Do the boosters normally come out at the same time as regular retail? >>


they did in San Antonio last year.

Nothing at Target today.

Not to beat a dead horse - for a few weeks of the year this board "comes alive" with one product. How many times do I see a post about a "dumb ebay sale"; is this OC? Thanx PSA, etc. - I don't mind since this is a free speech zone - come on...let's be fair. I would appreciate a little support on the idea of fairness in creating the thread of ones choice. If no one responds to a thread, the author will get the message.

your friend
Mike

softparade

<< <i>

<< <i>

Not to beat a dead horse - for a few weeks of the year this board "comes alive" with one product. How many times do I see a post about a "dumb ebay sale"; is this OC? Thanx PSA, etc. - I don't mind since this is a free speech zone - come on...let's be fair. I would appreciate a little support on the idea of fairness in creating the thread of ones choice. If no one responds to a thread, the author will get the message.

your friend
Mike >>





nuff said ! and well said I might add

By the way , got my 3 boxes, opening later tonight

Wetzel

I got my 3 boxes from Kuhlman today. I got a bunch of the light backs also, i haven't had a chance to put anything in order.

I pulled a Jim Brady auto and it has a light back. I pulled a Paul Minner auto from a box that i bought at my local card store and that has a light back also. I didn't get any light backs from the boxes from the card store. Does anyone know if all of the autos have the light backs?

I also got a black chrome Andruw Jones, which is one of my favorite players

sportscardmarket

With all this Heritage talk there has got to be alot of unchewed gum out there.

If you haven't seen my post already, my daighter and I are looking for gum to send over to our tropps. There is a drive going on called Operation Shoebox - New Jersey. They are looking for all kinds of items including gum. I thought it would be great to get fellow collectors to help the cause with the gum they have from Heritage. My daughter's school is just one of many places in New Jersey that is working on this project.

If you have any gum that you would be willing to ship to my daughter it would be greatly appreciated. While I'm not looking to pay for the gum, I would be willing to pay for the half the shipping if I have to. I'll take whatever you have - a case worth or 10 cases worth.

You can e-mail me at isellcards@optonline.net to get my mailing info. I can also send you information on Operation Shoebox. If anyone out there is questioning my reasons for wanting the gum, you can see my feedback at sportscard_market on Ebay. Very honest dealer just looking to help my daughter help out the troops.

Thanks.

softparade

Ok, guys. My first box and first pack. All white backs and look, Rob Bell dupes in the same pack.

What is with the checklist that is TWO cards thick? They look like they are stuck togehther but don't come apart. Not that I tried very hard. Also, the checklist was the 9th card in the pack. Is it common to get more than 8?

Cubfan

Looks like Rob is outstanding in his field . There is no one around for miles.

joestalin

softparade

Beginners luck? I know alot of you guys don't like the game used crap but hey, only pack 2 and I am thrilled! I promise I will keep these down to total box yields instead of every pack

Edited to say that Stone cleared up why the checklists are double ply and that my cards are in fact grey backs. Thanks Mike

Basilone

Basilone's Hobby Box Break #7 (Kuhlmann Box)

CLUBHOUSE COLLECTION (1:36 packs)
#CCR-LA LUIS APARICIO GAME USED BAT

0 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs)
None

4 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs)
#THC-9 Mark Prior (#1908/1956)
#THC-24 Adam Dunn (#1917/1956)
#THC-52 Jeff Bagwell (#1328/1956)
#THC-97 Brett Harper (#0297/1956)

9 Short Prints (only 9 but I got a couple of Bonds #61..so who knows) (1:2 packs)
#79 Kaz Ishii
#260 Cesar Izturis
#312 Lance Berkman (Fielding)
#405 Scot Spiezio
#412 Melvin Mora
#420 Billy Butler
#443 Bill Mueller
#462 Moises Alou
#467 Juan Gonzalez

2 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs)
#F-BF Bob Feller
#F-SM Stan Musial

2 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs)
#TN6 Whitey Ford/Jake Peavy
#TN10 Eddie Yost/Bobby Abreau

2 New Age Performers Inserts (1:15 packs)
#NAP3 Ichiro
#NAP12 David Ortiz

3 Checklist cards


Basilone's Hobby Box Break #8 (Kuhlmann Box)

CLUBHOUSE COLLECTION (1:36 packs)
None

1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs)
#THC-94 Sean Marshall (#504/556)

3 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs)
#THC-33 Pat Burrell (#0541/1956)
#THC-65 Andre Ethier (#1479/1956)
#THC-88 James Jurries (#0811/1956)


12 Short Prints (1:2 packs)
#135 Alex Rodriguez (Batting)
#261 Carlos Beltran (Batting)
#399 Kerry Wood
#400 Derek Jeter
#409 Rondell White
#424 Jose Vaquedano
#429 Pedro Martinez
#435 Tony Batista
#437 Brad Lidge
#446 Sean Burnett
#452 Glen Perkins
#459 Hee Seop Choi

3 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs)
#F-BF Bob Feller
#F-DL Don Larsen
#F-DS Duke Snider

2 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs)
#TN3 Robin Roberts/Livan Hernandez
#TN4 Bob Friend/Livan Hernandez

1 New Age Performers Inserts (1:15 packs)
#NAP10 Manny Ramirez

3 Checklist cards

Stone193

While we're on the topic of set collecting...I learned an ez way to sort the cards from a guy at a show - when the smoke clears, you only have to the sort or handle the cards 3 times to get them in order.

Does anyone know this technique or a simpler one?

your friend
Mike

softparade

I posted this before in the wrong thread, sorry fellas. This is my kuhlman box # 1 . I am using Basilone's box break format. So easy to read

1 Clubhouse Collection (1:291)
CCR-GS Gary SHeffield Game-Used Bat



1 Chrome Refractor Parallel (1:25 packs)
#THC56 Greg Maddux (#243/556)

4 Chrome Parallel (1:7 packs)
#THC-15 Adrian Beltre (#1350/1956) now the property of Stone
#THC-45 Kerry Wood (#0232/1956) Stone's card now
#THC-82 Nate Schierholtz (#0097/1956) Stone stoned me and took my card
#THC-85 Elvys Quezada (#1705/1956) Stone is one cool mother you know what! and yeah, this card is his too

11 Short Prints (1:2 packs)
#6 Jason Bay (1956 Uniform)
#31 Albert Pujols (Red Hat)
#312 Lance Berkman (Fielding)
#401 Livan Hernandez
#406 Craig Wilson
#408 D'Angelo Jimenez
#414 Carl Everett
#416 Ben Sheets
#421 Justin Morneau
#436 Corey Koskie
#441 Roy Halliday

2 Flashbacks Inserts (1:12 packs)
#F-DS Duke Snider
#F-SM Stan Musial

2 Then & Now Inserts (1:15 packs)
#TN3 Robin Roberts/Livian Hernandez
#TN4 Bob Friend/Livian Hernandez

1 New Age Performers Inserts (1:15 packs)
#NAP8 Sammy Sosa

2 Checklist Cards

Stone193

Dan
Here's the real reward for all of this work!

Basilone

UPDATED "LIGHT BACK" LIST: 220 TOTAL CARDS KNOWN (Thanks to 86Nova & TheNatural) for the helping with the additions.

KNOWN LIGHT BACKS

10 John Smoltz
12 Darin Erstad
13 Chad Tracy
14 Charles Thomas
18 Derrek Lee
19 Juan Uribe
21 Kenny Lofton
22 Brad Ausmus
23 Jon Garland
24 Edwin Jackson
25 Joe Mauer
26 Wes Helms
27 Brian Schneider
29 Flash Gordon
34 Nick Green
36 Kevin Youkilis
37 Billy Wagner
38 Terrence Long
39 Kevin Mench
41 Reed Johnson
42 Reggie Sanders
43 Kirk Rueter
45 Tike Redman
47 Damian Miller
48 Zach Day
53 Juan Cruz
54 Byung-Hyun Kim
55 Carlos Zambrano
58 David Riske
59 Carlos Guillen
61 Barry Bonds
62 Chris Woodward
65 Scot Shields
66 J.D. Drew
67 Erik Bedard
68 Scott Williamson
74 Ricardo Rodriguez
75 Carlos Delgado
83 Odalis Perez
84 Scott Podsednik
86 Jeff Suppan
87 Ray Durham
91 Bengie Molina
92 Danny Bautista
93 Eli Marrero
94 Larry Bigbie
96 Merkin Valdez
97 Rocco Baldelli
98 Woody Williams
99 Jason Frasor
102 Joe Kennedy
104 Armando Benitez
106 David DeJesus
108 Phil Nevin
109 Cristian Guzman
114 Alex Cintron
117 Placido Polanco
120 Bobby Abreu
122 Dallas McPherson
123 Rodrigo Lopez
124 Mark Bellhorn
127 Ronnie Belliard
128 Tom Goodwin
131 Roberto Alomar
132 John Buck
133 Jason LaRue
136 Nate Robertson
138 Morgan Ensberg
139 Vinny Castilla
141 Chan Ho Park
143 Jason Isringhausen
144 Dustan Mohr
145 Khalil Greene
147 Vicente Padilla
148 Oliver Perez
149 Brian Giles
150 Shawn Green
152 Casey Blake
154 Orlando Hernandez
156 Chase Utley
158 Adam Eaton
160 Michael Tucker
161 Kevin Brown
162 Bobby Crosby
165 Tony Womack
168 Ted Lilly
170 Matt Morris
173 Jeff Weaver
174 Tony Graffanino
176 Carl Pavano
177 Junior Spivey
178 Carlos Silva
180 Brett Myers
181 Mike Mussina
183 Nick Johnson
189 Guillermo Quiroz
190 Mark Hendrickson
191 Jeremy Bonderman
192 Jason Jennings
194 A.J. Burnett
195 Ken Harvey
197 Joe Mays
200 Randy Johnson
201 Jeff DaVanon
202 Paul Byrd
204 Kyle Farnsworth
205 Keith Foulke
206 Joe Crede
207 Austin Kearns
209 Shawn Chacon
211 Luis Castillo
215 Brad Fullmer
218 Ryan Klesko
219 Octavio Dotel
220 Rob Mackowiak
221 Scott Hatteberg
223 Bernie Williams
224 Kris Benson
231 Troy Glaus
232 Chone Figgins
233 John Thomson
234 Trot Nixon
237 Miguel Batista
238 Ryan Drese
239 Aaron Miles
240 Randy Wolf
241 Brian Lawrence
242 A.J. Pierzynski
243 Jamie Moyer
244 Chris Carpenter
246 Rob Bell
247 Francisco Cordero
249 Jermaine Dye
250 Cliff Lee
252 Vernon Wells
253 R.A. Dickey
255 Randy Winn
256 Pedro Feliz
257 Mark Loretta
258 Tim Worrell
263 Luis Gonzalez
265 Paul Wilson
266 Mark Buehrle
267 Todd Hollandsworth
272 Brendan Donnelly
274 Brandon Webb
275 Marty Cordova
278 Aaron Harang
279 Coco Crisp
280 Bobby Higginson
282 Andy Pettitte
284 Craig Brazell
285 Eric Hinske
289 Matt Herges
290 Ramon Hernandez
291 Marlon Byrd
294 Al Leiter
296 Johan Santana
297 Milton Bradley
302 Tim Wakefield
304 Rafael Furcal
305 David Eckstein
306 David Segui
308 Matt Clement
310 Brad Radke
313 Joe Randa
316 Alex Sanchez
317 Chin-hui Tsao
318 Omar Vizquel
319 Ryan Freel
320 LaTroy Hawkins
321 Aaron Rowand
323 Joe Borowski
324 Jarrod Washburn
326 Johnny Damon
328 Travis Hafner
330 Dmitri Young
331 Matt Holliday
333 Desi Relaford
334 Jose Hernandez
336 Jacque Jones
337 Terrmel Sledge
340 Brad Wilkerson
342 Jesse Crain
343 Orlando Hudson
344 Laynce Nix
345 Jose Cruz Jr.
346 Edgar Renteria
347 Eddie Guardado
348 Jerome Williams
349 Trevor Hoffman
351 Jason Kendall
353 Tim Hudson
354 Paul Quantrill
355 Jon Lieber
356 Braden Looper
357 Chad Cordero
358 Joe Nathan
359 Doug Davis
361 Val Majewski
362 Francisco Rodriguez
363 Kelvim Escobar
366 David Bell
367 Shea Hillenbrand
369 Ben Broussard
371 Dustin Hermanson
377 Jake Peavy
379 Sean Burroughs
380 Rich Harden
382 John Lackey
383 Johnny Estrada
385 Toby Hall
386 Adam LaRoche
387 Bill Hall
388 Tim Salmon
390 Michael Barrett
391 Jose Acevedo
393 J.T. Snow Jr.
394 Mark Redman
397 Ramon Ortiz

Stone193

John
This is dark - correct?



your friend
Mike

Basilone

It appears like a gray back to me.

Stone193

<< <i>It appears like a gray back to me. >>


Thanx John
All my boxes were this way. No variants at all. Will be interested to see some tho - have to see what retail brings.

your friend
Mike

softparade

Mike, glad I was not the only one who thought these "grey" backs might be "light" enough to be light backs.I wish someone would scan a light back! Not to mention that I pulled dupes from the SAME pack 3 separate times, which led me to believe they were light backs considering previous posts about getting so many dupes because of the high % of light backs in boxes


SOMEONE SHOOT ME