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1909-S VDB Auction on ebay - Suspicious?

CoppernicusCoppernicus Posts: 1,764 ✭
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Is there anything that's NOT suspicious in this one:

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Interested in your comments!

Mike
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    No more suspicious than this one. image

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    coppercoinscoppercoins Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭
    Seems very odd, the mintmark seems to be off, but it's really hard to tell with that image under that angle of lighting. Looks like there's a PCGS slab around it, and they are definitely on the ball with authenticating those...so if the slab is an untampered genuine slab, I'd assume the coin is genuine.

    Now...the question remains of the price. Well, it's either stolen, part of a hand me down collection and the seller doesn't really know its value, or the seller is really counting on the bids bringing it up to value. Who knows..
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    kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    I'd like to see a pic of the whole slab and the label.

    Cameron Kiefer
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    tmot99tmot99 Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭
    It does seem a little strange... private auction, very little feedback yet opened account in May 04, no paypal. For the $54, I might take the risk, but if this goes where a 65RD should go, not a chance.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I'd like to see a pic of the whole slab and the label.

    Cameron Kiefer >>



    I sent him an eMail asking for one. I'm not holding my breath.



    << <i>bank wires, WU, MG NO PAYPAL FOR this item >>



    The auction is a scam.

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    anablepanablep Posts: 5,204 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Russ, why is the trade dollar suspicious? Just asking. I looks okay. I emailed the seller about its authenticity.
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    'Borrowed' photos... rip-off waiting to happen.
    When in doubt, don't.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Russ, why is the trade dollar suspicious? >>



    For the same reason the Lincoln is. Private auction, and the only acceptable payment option is wire transfer.

    Russ, NCNE
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    mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
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    tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
    Look at the photos of both auctions.
    If the seller took those photos, he used 2 different cameras. That leads me to believe that these are not his coins or photos!

    Glenn
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    21Walker21Walker Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭
    the 's' mint mark on the 1909S VDB is in the correct spot, coin looks original, start bid $54 (I start my stuff at .99.......Then we have to look at his low feedback and the low feedbacks of the buyers, method of payment....etc...etc...etc....=poison ivy IMO............Rick
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    tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
    The Trade Dollar appears to have writing on the obverse from the 4 o'clock to 10 o'clock position.

    image

    Glenn

    It is a Russian address.
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    jdsinvajdsinva Posts: 1,508 ✭
    Looking at past auctions and current auctions, there is no consistency among the photos. One is a close-up of both obv & rev and none of the slab, one is of the entire slab obv but no rev, one is at an off angle but others are straight on shots, background colors are different among the auctions. . .

    One thing I've learned about photography and eBay auction photos in particular and that everyone has a certain style that is the same among all of their photos (i.e. you find something that works and stick with it). This person's photos have no single style which lends evidence to the fact that they are borrowed photos.

    Jeff
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    nankrautnankraut Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭
    When this old man (who's been screwed enough times to be a smart old man now) sees this kind of stuff on EBAY, he goes: RED FLAG!image
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    mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,001 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Excellent points about the photography, jdsinva.

    I would add that the raw 1909 Indian $10 from a previous auction looks bad, real bad, as in a word that starts with "f" and ends with "y." And I don't mean "funky." image

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    src53src53 Posts: 88
    The URL of the pictures is http://ebhost.com.ru/9/6e.jpg

    Doesn't that mean they came from Russia?
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    kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭


    << <i>The URL of the pictures is http://ebhost.com.ru/9/6e.jpg

    Doesn't that mean they came from Russia? >>



    Yeah, just like a previous 2 posters have already said.

    Cameron Kiefer
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    XpipedreamRXpipedreamR Posts: 8,059 ✭✭
    The auction photos appear to be hosted on a Russian website.

    Did anyone else notice that, and don't you think that's a bit odd for an eBay auction?
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    kieferscoinskieferscoins Posts: 10,017 ✭
    Wow, I just noticed that also. Good detective work there sherlock!

    Cameron Kiefer
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    BarryBarry Posts: 10,100 ✭✭✭
    Especially odd for a seller in the US.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    If you check the image URL, it points to a Russian web address.

    Russ, NCNE
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    ss350camaross350camaro Posts: 4,529 ✭
    www.ebhost.com.ru/

    НИХУЯ

    404

    НЕ НАЙДЕНО!!!



    Definately a Russian site


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    JRoccoJRocco Posts: 14,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sniff sniff sniff.......Something smells Russian around that auction....
    Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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    tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    I asked for a pic of the whole slab........he/she sent this:
    image
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    tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    somebody run the numbers
    Family, kids, coins, sports (playing not watching), jet skiing, wakeboarding, Big Air....no one ever got hurt in the air....its the sudden stop that hurts. I hate Hurricane Sandy. I hate FEMA and i hate the blasted insurance companies.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    I asked for an image of the entire slab - twice. Strangely, he has not responded.

    Russ, NCNE
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    originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    Russ, do you think this coin image is probably hosted on a Russian site?






































    image
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    tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    Maybe he didnt respond to people who like modern crap?
    Family, kids, coins, sports (playing not watching), jet skiing, wakeboarding, Big Air....no one ever got hurt in the air....its the sudden stop that hurts. I hate Hurricane Sandy. I hate FEMA and i hate the blasted insurance companies.
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Maybe he didnt respond to people who like modern crap? >>



    Either that, or he immediately recognized my superior intellect and knew I'd never fall for just a picture of the label.

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    my3centsmy3cents Posts: 1,411
    Maybe the URL stands for EEE BAY hosting.....
    here's who owns the domain where the photos are hosted:

    (and he is in MARENGO, iLL)



    Registrant:
    ebhost project


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    FEDOROV VALERA VECHESLAVOVISH (coflogo@mail.ru)
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    24303 tomlin road
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    mrpaseomrpaseo Posts: 4,753 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The URL of the pictures is http://ebhost.com.ru/9/6e.jpg

    Doesn't that mean they came from Russia? >>



    Yeah, just like a previous 2 posters have already said.

    Cameron Kiefer >>



    Cameron your such a wise ass.
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    ProofquarterProofquarter Posts: 275 ✭✭


    Time difference. Sleeping?
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    my3centsmy3cents Posts: 1,411
    tried all phone number combinations - the number he gives as his number is one number short so I added a zero then a 1 etc.

    It's in Lykens, Pa - NOT Marango, Ill

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    my3centsmy3cents Posts: 1,411
    The nameservers point to a russian webhosting service - maybe the guy is from Russia, Lives in Marengo, Ill, but has a cell phone from PA??? Since he can't read english well, he buys web pic space from a russian hosting company???





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    tlhoytlhoy Posts: 2,204
    Both of those coins sold on Dec. 14 & he relisted both coins on Dec. 15 Link

    Glenn

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