Is this machine doubling or something else?

mr1931S · October 26, 2004 11:43AM

If this '69 S cent is an example of machine or ejection doubling why is the "1" doubled to the "north" and the other three digits doubled "east?" Wouldn't all digits in the date of a machine doubled coin be doubled in the same direction? Also, the mintmark appears to me to be doubled to the "west." Does anyone know how these seemingly inconsistent with each other doublings can happen when a coin is machine doubled?

ldhair · October 26, 2004 11:46AM

Nice x.

coinguy89 · October 26, 2004 11:48AM

The photo isn't showing up.

poorguy · October 26, 2004 11:49AM

I'd say something else, more in the neighborhood of 'Big Rex X'.

mr1931S · October 26, 2004 11:50AM

mr1931S · October 26, 2004 11:54AM

Sorry guys. Something is wrong, very, very wrong with my boomspeed. I'm hoping I can get the pic of my odd '69 S posted soon.

anoldgoat · October 26, 2004 11:54AM

Beer

ldhair · October 26, 2004 11:54AM

boomspeed.

Peaceman · October 26, 2004 12:00PM

Looks like lower case "L" doubling

mr1931S · October 26, 2004 12:23PM

JRocco · October 26, 2004 12:24PM

Sorry to say- its machine doubling.

mr1931S · October 26, 2004 12:24PM

JRocco · October 26, 2004 12:28PM

Here is an example of one of mine.

mr1931S · October 26, 2004 12:28PM

Okay, machine doubling but why is the "1" doubled to the "north" and the other three digits doubled "east?" Wouldn't all digits in the date of a machine doubled coin be doubled in the same direction? Also, the mintmark appears to me to be doubled to the "west."

astrorat · October 26, 2004 12:36PM

The apparent doubling is the result of machine or strike doubling. This can be determined due to the lack of split serifs in the numbers. Since the mintmarks were not part of the hub, but were placed individually into each die, the mintmark can be doubled with the die being doubled. It is interesting, however, that the strike doubling appears not to be in the same "direction".

Lane

mr1931S · October 26, 2004 12:43PM

The "S" on top is left or "west" of the underlying "S." Could my coin be machine doubled with a RPM?

astrorat · October 26, 2004 12:48PM

That is certainly possible, but without a clear photo of the mintmark, I could not comment.

Lane

Murphy · October 26, 2004 12:52PM

Machine Doubling, just like mine that I asked about earlier this year...

mr1931S · October 26, 2004 12:54PM

I'm going to attempt a closeup of the mintmark with my Coolpix. Back later with boomspeed willing. My Coolpix will be going to a place hitherto unknown.

mr1931S · October 26, 2004 12:58PM

Great pic, Murphy. Your date looks like mine. Mintmark does not.

mr1931S · October 26, 2004 10:22PM

Was unable to get suitable image of mintmark only on my '69 S. I have a few more of the '69 S with the machine doubling evident on some but not all digits of the date and "LIBERTY." It seems to me now that none of my coins have "direction" inconsistency since I took a closer look at them with my loupe last evening. I'm thinking the ejection doubling on my coin shown in this thread is all "northeast." The mintmark does not have to the "west" doubling now that I look at it closer. It does have doubling, looks kind of like a messed "3" with all those serifs mingling.

Thanks to all who posted images. I would suggest to Murphy, and this is only a suggestion, that you put "fake" or "altered" underneath your pic of 1914 D lincoln that shows up everytime you post. I've seen these on ebay offered as genuine and a new member of the forum with little or no experience in counterfeit detection might get the idea that your coin is genuine and subsequently purchase one that looks similar thinking he or she has gotten ahold of a real one.

Is this machine doubling or something else?

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