Will this 1831 Bust Quarter grade EF ?

Trooper · June 23, 2004 11:59AM

I'm thinking of sending this one in and was wondering if it would make the EF40 grade ahead of time.
Thanks
Tom

lloydmincy · June 23, 2004 12:02PM

My opinion. Absolutely.

jdimmick · June 23, 2004 12:03PM

I agree, In fact It might 45

jcping · June 23, 2004 12:04PM

I think so.

Placid · June 23, 2004 12:12PM

What does the reverse look like?

PutTogether · June 23, 2004 12:18PM

Going just from the pictures i would bet money it does not go less than 40, or higher than 50 - closer to the 40 swing of things.

Varlis · June 23, 2004 12:18PM

Looks like it's got EF detail, but based on the pictures, I think PCGS will BB it as cleaned or altered surfaces.

Placid · June 23, 2004 12:19PM

Yes it should make 40 no problem.

robertpr · June 23, 2004 12:22PM

I think so.

relayer · June 23, 2004 12:28PM

I'd say 45

Placid · June 23, 2004 12:32PM

Here is a pcgs graded 45 for comparison. I couldn't find a 40.

Cladiator · June 23, 2004 12:34PM

dunno about the coin but whatever youve got it sitting in makes for cool pictures

BigD5 · June 23, 2004 1:08PM

I'm not as hot for that one as everyone above.

There is a lack of detail at the bust area, the hair at the shoulder and near the clasp is weak, the top of the cap is weak, and the area above the eye is also very weak.

The reverse isn't super strong either, to my eye.

I say vf/35.

Don't get me wrong, it looks like a decent coin but I'm not sure if it makes full xf.

Myqqy · June 23, 2004 3:22PM

I would also say vf35, and I wonder about past cleanings?? I'm not sure how leniant pcgs is with old cleanings with these types of classic coins....

Elcontador · June 23, 2004 3:45PM

Agree w Darin re the obverse. This series has closed collar strikes, though you'll often see weak stars due to out of parallel dies (you'll also see a lot of die cracks). I think the reverse is a no questions asked EF, but I don't think there's enough detail in the curls behind the head & above the forehead.

Also, how bad are those spots on the obverse? they don't look like carbon. If they're nasty, the coin could be bagged for environmental damage.

oldcameoproofsguy · June 23, 2004 4:15PM

I was going to say vf-35 but I always grade a little low.

tjkillian · June 23, 2004 11:09PM

Here is a picture of one I have that is an XF-40.

Tom

SirAnthonyAC · June 24, 2004 4:34AM

Hi,

Your coin had tremendous eye appeal, IMHO it should grade at EF40.

Please let us know the grade when you get it back.

Anthony

EVillageProwler · June 24, 2004 6:12AM

I would grade the coin VF35, if it grades out at all. The color on the coin looks "off" to me. Perhaps it is the way you took the picture, but it looks like something may have been done to it that warrants a no-grade.

Keep in mind, however, that we're all grading from a picture and you're the only one with the coin in hand.

EVP

Will this 1831 Bust Quarter grade EF ?

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