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Which PCGS MS68 would you rather have? UPDATED with voting and auction results...
coinguy1
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Each of these Iowa commemoratives was graded MS68 by PCGS and sold at public auction earlier this year.
One of them brought $1322, one realized $1782 and one fetched $2357. See if you can guess which coin is which?
Do you think these price differences indicate that one or more of them was: Over-graded? Under-graded? Gorgeous? Not so gorgeous? Other?
Voting results and answers will be revealed on Monday. If you already know or learn which is which before then, please keep it a secret - thanks.
Edited to add: We own none of these.
PCGS MS68 Iowa #1
PCGS MS68 Iowa #2
PCGS MS68 Iowa #3
One of them brought $1322, one realized $1782 and one fetched $2357. See if you can guess which coin is which?
Do you think these price differences indicate that one or more of them was: Over-graded? Under-graded? Gorgeous? Not so gorgeous? Other?
Voting results and answers will be revealed on Monday. If you already know or learn which is which before then, please keep it a secret - thanks.
Edited to add: We own none of these.
PCGS MS68 Iowa #1
PCGS MS68 Iowa #2
PCGS MS68 Iowa #3
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I know nothing, so I can answer.
#1 $1782
#2 $2357
#3 $1322
At least that is my take based on eye appeal
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The second is ok. $2357
The third is a nice 'poop' color with a hint of kool-aid on the obverse. $1782
sheesh.
K S
2 1782
3. 1322
The sale is the best indicator of value as I haven't a clue. I expect more than 2 or 3 have to offer for MS68
original surfaces. The second one may be the nicest in hand but looks a little washed out in the
picture. The third probably isn't the most expensive and is my least favorite because of the dark-
ness.
The second one has nice eye appeal. $2357
The third one is dull looking. $1322
Don
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The first coin is even nicer IMO in spite of the fact that the second is all there technically and has wicked eye appeal. I would love to see the coin that replaced that one...assuming it came from where I think it came from.
I don't even remember looking at the third one...maybe it is so stunning that upon viewing it I went into shock and have lost my memory of the incident; although I doubt that is the case.
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rainbowroosie April 1, 2003
09/07/2006
1. 1782
2. 2357 Pedigree!
3. 1322
2. $1,782
3. $1,322
I did the one I would rather have.
I missed the guess the price part.
The highest price was probably the tab-toned one because all it takes is two people who love tab toning to get into a bidding war. I would not bid on a tab-toned coin myself as I do no like that look.
The middle price was probably the middle coin as it is nice original looking but no toning.
The lowest price was probably the bottom one because its toning seems drab except for a small section.
I'll play nice with you...
First, let me say that it's not fair to ask folks to ascertain from digi-pics over/under-grade potential when the specimens in question are graded 68 by a reputable service.
Second, I'll guess: first is most expensive and second is least.
Third, is this Heller your favorite buddy?
EVP
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bruce scher
1. 1782
2. 2357
3. 1322
I "dislike" the third coin because it seems dark. I, personally, prefer white coins, so I prefer the second coin. Plus I think Steve is a good guy, so I hope his coin was the highest. Thus, based on my preferences and my hope, I am guessing (hoping) that the second coin was the most expensive. That doesn't leave much room for doubt about where the first coin places in my list.
Mark
# 2 is the $2357 coin and deserved the amount. This guy is picky.
# 3 is the $1782 coin and from the picture it would be a toss up with me whether to buy #2 or it.
Ken
1. Bright Color
2. Pedigree
3. Blast White
4. Orginal skin with out bright colors
5. Dipped out and Dull (the above all assume decent luster)
Based upon the above I think
Coin #1 was highest paid
Coin #2 was next highes paid
Coin #3 was lowest paid.
My preferences are #1, then #3
The Heller coin looks like every other Iowa out there. No matter how clean, without color or monstrous blast they just lie there.
The 3rd piece might be prettier in hand but hard to tell. Parts of the obv look very colorful. Reverse could be a touch dullish.
I'd do with #1.....#3.....#2...............sorry Mr. Heller!
roadrunner
As for what they sold for, it wouldn't surprise me at all to find the pedigreed coin was the most expensive, followed by #1 and#3. After all, if it's pedigreed, it must be a great coin, right? I wonder what dorkarl would think of that logic...........buy the insert, not the slab!
<< <i>The Heller coin looks like every other Iowa out there. No matter how clean, without color or monstrous blast they just lie there. >>
Iowa is a tough coin, herein, Coinguy's conundrum as presented, in that, there are a number of Iowa 68s. Going though them is time consuming and, truthfully, exasperating. There are only a handful of really nicely toned 68s, that go for undue multiples than that of a clean one, imho. Finding a truly special 68 is unusually difficult, more than one may assume.
Ps. That is not to say that this theory was recognized and I got good $$$ for the Heller coin in the auction. Guess accordingly....
Pps. a hint... I doubt I got diddily for the pedigree on this puppy...
But when comparing MS-68 we are only comparing what appears to be the eye appeal as opposed to the technical merits of each coin. At the 68 level personal inspection is a must to compare technical aspects.
But one important question.....are these pics all scans or any of them taken with a digital camera?
Scoring system: If a coin was chosen as the favorite, it was awarded 1 point, if it was second favorite, it got 2 points and if chosen in 3'd place, it received 3 points - so, the lowest score is best in this poll...
Coin #1: average vote 1.44
Coin # 2: average vote 1.69
Coin #3 : average vote 2.66
The voting was very close between the first two coins and clearly, the third one was the least favorite among you folks. You also chose them according to the actual prices realized in the auctions, # 1 being the highest and # 3 being the lowest. I'll leave it to you to figure out where coin #2 ended up, price-wise.
Oreville, I don't know what type of photography Heritage used.
Dog, coin #1 was not "dipped and retoned". In fact, it's about as original as you can get, with the toning being "tab toning", the result of having resided in it's original holder of issue and displaying a toning pattern conforming to the "tab" which held it in place.
Do you guys want to have/do another one of these?
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Do you guys want to have/do another one of these? >>
Sure.
edited to add- Oops. The results are in there.
Coin #1: average vote 1.44---$2,357
Coin # 2: average vote 1.69--$1,782
Coin #3 : average vote 2.66--$1,322
Maybe there's something to this market grading thing.
If you figure a little premium for the finest (they are MS-68) there is an excellent correlation.
I actually like tab toning, so I would go with the first coin. Having said that I'm not that wild about the reverse of it.
Clankeye
You said:
<<<<<<<<<<<<You also chose them according to the actual prices realized in the auctions, # 1 being the highest and # 3 being the lowest. I'll leave it to you to figure out where coin #2 ended up, price-wise. >>>>>>>>>>>
I am still working on that. Figuring out where coin #2 ended up, price-wise. Is this a trick question or what?