Whats is the most overgraded coin you have ever seen?

Singapore · April 17, 2003 3:56AM

Best answer wins a 1971 Jefferson Nickel in MS62 (or similar, depending on what I get in change in the cafeteria).

MadMonk · April 17, 2003 3:57AM

1963 pcgs prf 70 dcam penny

MadMarty · April 17, 2003 4:00AM

Anything slabbed by AGC or NTC!!!

paigowjohnny · April 17, 2003 4:05AM

Any slabbed MS SAE

fantasiize · April 17, 2003 4:10AM

All coins I own (and try to sell) are overgraded.

Once I decide to buy any, they become undergraded.

That is the story of my numismatic life (and I'll stick to it).

SethChandler · April 17, 2003 4:14AM

I once saw a 188? $2 1/2 Liberty that was PCGS MS66 at a Superior auction. It would be an ugly 64 in my book. In the old days(late 80's) it would have been a 63. I was..........offended.

Steve27 · April 17, 2003 4:19AM

Here's one that's five points off: Link to ebay auction of VG 1916-D dime which is actually AG. (Check out the pic of the reverse.)

toothpuller · April 17, 2003 4:20AM

I have an 1866 Indian Head Cent in a MS64RD ACG slab that is probably EF Black

Does that count?

coincollector1989 · April 17, 2003 4:21AM

My 1996 Silver Wahington Quarter graded Proof 70DCAM by ICG the coin has this super obvious milkspot just above the date.

tjkillian · April 17, 2003 4:42AM

I bought a 1861 ACG MS-60 Eagle that clearly had wear. I sent it to PCGS and they only gave it an AU-53.

Tom

jbsteven · April 17, 2003 4:44AM

Just handled a 1859 NGC PF64 Indian that should reside in a PF61 or 62 holder (had 2 large nicks and a LARGE scratch on it!)

Clankeye · April 17, 2003 4:52AM

A Roanoke commem graded NGC67. It had amazing tab toning-very spectacular. But Raleigh's hat had four symetrical, stand out hits on it. There is just no way in my book you could give it the 67. Even with the eye appeal it had.

Clankeye

numispro · April 17, 2003 4:56AM

Back in the early days of PCGS, there was an 1893-O $ (hope I remember the date right!) in MS-65.

The coin literally looked like it had been put in a can with 50 other coins, then placed on a paint shaking machine for a couple of hours.
The only positive thing you could say was that it was actually Unc.

There was a great rumor for a long time after that about PCGS having to buy it back and David nailing the coin to the wall in the grading room as an example of bad finalizing.

dragon · April 17, 2003 5:06AM

That's pretty unusual about the 1893-O, usually PCGS is conservative in grading the key date Morgans in high grade, especially a 93-O in 65.

dragon

jonesy · April 17, 2003 5:22AM

Any raw coin at ebay.

Glenn

dorkkarl · April 17, 2003 6:30AM

seen? that's easy, seen lots of ridiculous "ms-65" grades on vf coins, etc, that dealers put out. but as far as most overgraded i've owned, i go back to that example of the 1926-s pcgs-35 buffalo i owned that got clobbered by anacs to a f-12.

actaully i thought it was just a vf-20 w/ a weak horn

K S

BillJones · April 17, 2003 6:49AM

I've seen a few commemorative half dollars that were black as coal and in NCG MS-67 holders. One of the worst was a Stone Mountain that I saw a couple years ago. I would not have paid VF money for it. I have picture of another commem that is in an NGC MS-65 holder that is almost as bad. When it is sold I might toss it up here. You won't believe it, AND the coin looks just as bad in person!

RELLA · April 17, 2003 7:18AM

Adrian's ACG MS67 Liberty Nickel (probably an AG3 coin). OK that's 64 Sheldon points people...who wants to beat that?

RELLA

ARCO · April 17, 2003 8:21AM

Can't beat Rella's example, but I have seen plenty of Barber Halves Slabbed in the XF range that are low end fines by ACG. That is 30 grading points or so. Price isn't as dramatic as the MS grades, but hell 30 grading points is like going to a doctor to get your tonsils removed and ending up with a vasectomy!!

Tyler

numispro · April 17, 2003 8:34AM

<< <i>That's pretty unusual about the 1893-O, usually PCGS is conservative in grading the key date Morgans in high grade, especially a 93-O in 65.

dragon >>

It was obviously a mistake and was never meant to be a 65. When PCGS started, the graders wrote the grades on the flip. Somebody screwed up entering the grade into the computer and nobody caught it on the way out the door.

roadrunner · April 17, 2003 9:01AM

Hands down for me is the Norweb 1842-0 SD quarter residing in an NGC MS63 holder since the late 1980's. The coin was catalogued by B&M as an AU50. Technically more like an AU55/58. It bought AU money but even though it had major rubbing and a very flat strike in the centers, it got boosted to 63. Nice coin other than the fact that no has ever wanted to pay anywhere near close to what the plastic says it is worth. This is the highest graded of a couple of slabbed "uncs." However, I doubt if a fully mint state example truly exists. In a true MS63 grade or higher you could name your own price.

roadrunner

rainbowroosie · April 17, 2003 10:27AM

Rella wins...I was going to cite exactly the same coin...a million dollar error if there ever was one!

1956Quarter · April 17, 2003 11:40AM

Anything in a slab......

Whats is the most overgraded coin you have ever seen?

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