I once saw a 188? $2 1/2 Liberty that was PCGS MS66 at a Superior auction. It would be an ugly 64 in my book. In the old days(late 80's) it would have been a 63. I was..........offended.
A Roanoke commem graded NGC67. It had amazing tab toning-very spectacular. But Raleigh's hat had four symetrical, stand out hits on it. There is just no way in my book you could give it the 67. Even with the eye appeal it had.
Back in the early days of PCGS, there was an 1893-O $ (hope I remember the date right!) in MS-65.
The coin literally looked like it had been put in a can with 50 other coins, then placed on a paint shaking machine for a couple of hours. The only positive thing you could say was that it was actually Unc.
There was a great rumor for a long time after that about PCGS having to buy it back and David nailing the coin to the wall in the grading room as an example of bad finalizing.
seen? that's easy, seen lots of ridiculous "ms-65" grades on vf coins, etc, that dealers put out. but as far as most overgraded i've owned, i go back to that example of the 1926-s pcgs-35 buffalo i owned that got clobbered by anacs to a f-12.
actaully i thought it was just a vf-20 w/ a weak horn
I've seen a few commemorative half dollars that were black as coal and in NCG MS-67 holders. One of the worst was a Stone Mountain that I saw a couple years ago. I would not have paid VF money for it. I have picture of another commem that is in an NGC MS-65 holder that is almost as bad. When it is sold I might toss it up here. You won't believe it, AND the coin looks just as bad in person!
Retired dealer and avid collector of U.S. type coins, 19th century presidential campaign medalets and selected medals. In recent years I have been working on a set of British coins - at least one coin from each king or queen who issued pieces that are collectible. I am also collecting at least one coin for each Roman emperor from Julius Caesar to ... ?
Adrian's ACG MS67 Liberty Nickel (probably an AG3 coin). OK that's 64 Sheldon points people...who wants to beat that?
RELLA
Do not fall into the error of the artisan who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft while in fact he has had only one year of experience... twenty times.
Can't beat Rella's example, but I have seen plenty of Barber Halves Slabbed in the XF range that are low end fines by ACG. That is 30 grading points or so. Price isn't as dramatic as the MS grades, but hell 30 grading points is like going to a doctor to get your tonsils removed and ending up with a vasectomy!!
<< <i>That's pretty unusual about the 1893-O, usually PCGS is conservative in grading the key date Morgans in high grade, especially a 93-O in 65.
dragon >>
It was obviously a mistake and was never meant to be a 65. When PCGS started, the graders wrote the grades on the flip. Somebody screwed up entering the grade into the computer and nobody caught it on the way out the door.
Hands down for me is the Norweb 1842-0 SD quarter residing in an NGC MS63 holder since the late 1980's. The coin was catalogued by B&M as an AU50. Technically more like an AU55/58. It bought AU money but even though it had major rubbing and a very flat strike in the centers, it got boosted to 63. Nice coin other than the fact that no has ever wanted to pay anywhere near close to what the plastic says it is worth. This is the highest graded of a couple of slabbed "uncs." However, I doubt if a fully mint state example truly exists. In a true MS63 grade or higher you could name your own price.
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Once I decide to buy any, they become undergraded.
That is the story of my numismatic life (and I'll stick to it).
I love Ike dollars and all other dollar series !!!
I also love Major Circulation Strike Type Sets, clad Washingtons ('65 to '98) and key date coins !!!!!
If ignorance is bliss, shouldn't we have more happy people ??
Does that count?
Sleep well tonight for the 82nd Airborne Division is on point for the nation.
AIRBORNE!
Tom
Clankeye
The coin literally looked like it had been put in a can with 50 other coins, then placed on a paint shaking machine for a couple of hours.
The only positive thing you could say was that it was actually Unc.
There was a great rumor for a long time after that about PCGS having to buy it back and David nailing the coin to the wall in the grading room as an example of bad finalizing.
dragon
Glenn
actaully i thought it was just a vf-20 w/ a weak horn
K S
RELLA
who boasts of twenty years experience in his craft
while in fact he has had only one year of experience...
twenty times.
Tyler
<< <i>That's pretty unusual about the 1893-O, usually PCGS is conservative in grading the key date Morgans in high grade, especially a 93-O in 65.
dragon >>
It was obviously a mistake and was never meant to be a 65. When PCGS started, the graders wrote the grades on the flip. Somebody screwed up entering the grade into the computer and nobody caught it on the way out the door.
roadrunner
rainbowroosie April 1, 2003