@WQuarterFreddie said:
And how many have you found? These are super rare.
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Define "Super-Rare"............
250,000 ÷ 40 million is super rare in my opinion
The U.S. Mint is releasing five special 1776–2026 Semiquincentennial quarters. Mintage figures are active and ongoing throughout the year, with a highly anticipated and incredibly rare circulating release planned for Independence Day.Here are the specific mintage details and production updates:July 4th Declaration of Independence "Privy Mark"Mintage Limit: Exactly 250,000 coinsDetails: To celebrate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, the Mint is randomly releasing 250,000 special Declaration of Independence quarters into nationwide circulation.Key Feature: These feature a special "July 4th" privy mark on the obverse and carry no mint mark.Standard 2026 Quarter MintageTotal Projected Mintage: The Mint projects an estimated 200 million standard quarters (covering the Mayflower Compact and Revolutionary War designs) will be produced.
What is 40 million?
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@WQuarterFreddie said:
And how many have you found? These are super rare.
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Define "Super-Rare"............
250,000 ÷ 40 million is super rare in my opinion
The U.S. Mint is releasing five special 1776–2026 Semiquincentennial quarters. Mintage figures are active and ongoing throughout the year, with a highly anticipated and incredibly rare circulating release planned for Independence Day.Here are the specific mintage details and production updates:July 4th Declaration of Independence "Privy Mark"Mintage Limit: Exactly 250,000 coinsDetails: To celebrate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, the Mint is randomly releasing 250,000 special Declaration of Independence quarters into nationwide circulation.Key Feature: These feature a special "July 4th" privy mark on the obverse and carry no mint mark.Standard 2026 Quarter MintageTotal Projected Mintage: The Mint projects an estimated 200 million standard quarters (covering the Mayflower Compact and Revolutionary War designs) will be produced.
250,000 is not super rare, the Mint did not hide them -- they marketed them heavily and that is a substantial number no matter how many total coins were minted. Many of those have been around for a while. If two are found and all the rest are melted then they will be super rare.
@WQuarterFreddie said:
And how many have you found? These are super rare.
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Define "Super-Rare"............
250,000 ÷ 40 million is super rare in my opinion
The U.S. Mint is releasing five special 1776–2026 Semiquincentennial quarters. Mintage figures are active and ongoing throughout the year, with a highly anticipated and incredibly rare circulating release planned for Independence Day.Here are the specific mintage details and production updates:July 4th Declaration of Independence "Privy Mark"Mintage Limit: Exactly 250,000 coinsDetails: To celebrate the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, the Mint is randomly releasing 250,000 special Declaration of Independence quarters into nationwide circulation.Key Feature: These feature a special "July 4th" privy mark on the obverse and carry no mint mark.Standard 2026 Quarter MintageTotal Projected Mintage: The Mint projects an estimated 200 million standard quarters (covering the Mayflower Compact and Revolutionary War designs) will be produced.
250,000 is not super rare, the Mint did not hide them -- they marketed them heavily and that is a substantial number no matter how many total coins were minted. Many of those have been around for a while. If two are found and all the rest are melted then they will be super rare.
This is just stupid, when 300K cents can be bought for less than $100 each. If this sale is real, maybe these are the same people expected to pay $10K for a silver Liberty Bell in 2 weeks.
@Matt04 said:
All the people on ebay selling em are in north or South Carolina
Yes but also other states like Texas, NJ and Ohio. Distribution appears to be like the W quarters which is in states with Fed Reserve main branch and their sub branches.
This is just stupid, when 300K cents can be bought for less than $100 each. If this sale is real, maybe these are the same people expected to pay $10K for a silver Liberty Bell in 2 weeks.
Looks like a smart move to me.
For the seller.
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The Mint announced this on June 23. We are 9 days out from that. Nobody found any prior to the announcement or it would have been major news among the coin communities. They promised to get them out by July 4, but didn’t say if they’d have all 250,00 out by then.
How many quarters does the Mint generallly ship in 10 days time? If this was a rush job, it might make sense that rheyre heavily mixed in with some of the more recent shipments and that the guy in the Carolinas just got lucky with a heavily seeded box (that his friend, spouse, etc at the bank sold him as a favor)?
Just conjecture….not stating this as fact.
@mbr33 said:
The Mint announced this on June 23. We are 9 days out from that. Nobody found any prior to the announcement or it would have been major news among the coin communities. They promised to get them out by July 4, but didn’t say if they’d have all 250,00 out by then.
How many quarters does the Mint generallly ship in 10 days time? If this was a rush job, it might make sense that rheyre heavily mixed in with some of the more recent shipments and that the guy in the Carolinas just got lucky with a heavily seeded box (that his friend, spouse, etc at the bank sold him as a favor)?
Just conjecture….not stating this as fact.
148 million circulating Declaration of Independence quarters have been minted to date. 63 million from Philly.
The relevant question is not how many they generally ship in 10 days time, because they can literally ship tens of millions at a moment's notice. So mixing a quarter million coins in multiple shipments involving millions of coins is really not an issue, because it absolutely could be done, and was likely all done at once.
If they are being discovered, they are out there. They are supposed to be widely disbursed, not bunched together in a few bags. Current eBay listings indicate this might not be the case. TBD.
Even so, logic dictates the coins should be worth dozens or hundreds of dollars, not thousands. But who knows anymore? I would love to find one in a box or roll, but wouldn't pay a premium to buy one.
Because it's yet another gimmick, not a must have. I'm also not sure it would be worth the time and effort to go searching for them, if someone didn't just hand one over to me.
@jmlanzaf said:
I thought he said the listings were fake.
Maybe not, if they are coming from multiple people. I still think the one with the ender roll is a scammer. And I notice now that people are trying to hype regular rolls, as though they wouldn't have been searched. EBay really is turning into a cesspool.
That said, the guy with a feedback of 2 offering a roll for $18K is a scammer. And I'm not sure that a scammer would draw a line at not selling a fake coin.
I have no idea how easy it would be to counterfeit this, but the Chinese seem to have an ability to counterfeit just about anything, and Dan Carr does a very nice job with his stuff. So, while I wouldn't be interested in paying up for these in the first place, I absolutely would not pay what these are now going for without the assurance of a TPG slab.
The fact that these sellers are forgoing the premium a slab would create, I do still call everything into question. You see an alternate explanation for just about everything else. No chance these could be fakes, because, at a $1,000 price point, they aren't worth slabbing when slabbed versions are being over at over 2x more? Come on -- use your imagination here!!!
And, even then, given the prevalence of fake slabs, I wouldn't buy from someone with little history. This is fun to talk about, and I guess fun to search for if you have the time and energy, or an inside connection. But, as with the Liberty Bell medals, I don't get paying big premiums for artificial rarities.
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Must be Christmas in July
My guess is he believes he has an entire roll of privy quarters because of it being an ender roll.
No. That's just what he wants YOU to believe.
If it's real, it's a seeded ender roll. Use your head. What are the odds of any one of these actually ending up at the end of a roll, facing the right way?
Now multiply that by the number of ender rolls currently on eBay, and then do the math. This is no different from any other eBay original bank roll scam.
They might or might not be real coins, but they are absolutely not original untouched bank rolls. They are nothing more than an attempt to turn a $1,000 coin into a $20,000 coin by scamming the buyer without making a promise that would trigger an item not as described return.
IF you intend on distribution of this "colelctor" coin through your network - then make sure the network of banks CAN obtain the new rolls/boxes through their coin suppliers.
ALMOST EVERY bank you ask about obtaining these Declaration of Indepence Quarters gives one of the following responses:
1) we have no idea of what you are talking about - what? a new quarter? what does it look like? we never heard of that.
2) we dont have any
3) we cant order boxes of quarters for you
4) we can order a box of quarters but dont know what we will get
It appears that if you have a contact in one of the large armormed car/coin distributors and know when these coins show up and are delivered - you have a big advantage.
Each U.S. government agency has a number of various recognition awards. Maybe it's been a long term practice (not sure) that the mint would award special coins to it's employees for special achievements. It would be a great idea (for us guys 😂).
Although, I'm sure there are mint employees throughout the country that have zero interest in coins or don't collect coins........hello eBay! 😂
@USSID18 said:
Each U.S. government agency has a number of various recognition awards. Maybe it's been a long term practice (not sure) that the mint would award special coins to it's employees for special achievements. It would be a great idea (for us guys 😂).
Although, I'm sure there are mint employees throughout the country that have zero interest in coins or don't collect coins........hello eBay! 😂
I have no problem with the Mint giving its employees a couple each of the quarters out of the 250K as that will ensure a lot of uncirculated coins are made available when the employees see them on EBay, which some already have.
@GuzziSport said:
I know what a privy is, but honest question, what makes them desirable? Just the limited quantity?
I guess there are ONLY 250,000 being made. I can think of a few other years where there were only 250,000 minted: in 1936 the mint made 3,837 proof Washington Quarters.
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Since this is a game that the US Mint set up. I expect roll hunters to buy out all the new quarters at the banks. Since someone is still paying upward of a 100% premium on eBay, you probably wont see any of the Declaration of Independence quarters in pocket change for a while. The Mint plans on minting billions of them (quarters nickels and dimes) because they know people will hoard them.
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@USSID18 said:
Each U.S. government agency has a number of various recognition awards. Maybe it's been a long term practice (not sure) that the mint would award special coins to it's employees for special achievements. It would be a great idea (for us guys 😂).
Although, I'm sure there are mint employees throughout the country that have zero interest in coins or don't collect coins........hello eBay! 😂
I have no problem with the Mint giving its employees a couple each of the quarters out of the 250K as that will ensure a lot of uncirculated coins are made available when the employees see them on EBay, which some already have.
It's too bad they have 100,000 employees
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But, as with the Liberty Bell medals, I don't get paying big premiums for artificial rarities.
What do you consider a non artificial rarity?
One that is organic. Something that survived in low numbers from 100 years ago, or something made in low numbers because there was low demand at the time. Not anything modern that is manufactured in numbers that are intentionally far below organic demand, for no other reason than to collect an obscene premium.
I mean, good for them if people are willing to pay and play. But, I'm sorry, to me it's nothing more than a cynical money grab.
I'll reluctantly pay 3x spot for most silver things because I like them, hope they will retain their value, and because they contain a deep out of the money call option on the future price of silver. Same with gold when made in the usual numbers and sold at the usual prices.
I wish pricing was more in line with the good old days, but I don't really blame them for getting what they can get if the market will support it, while still satisfying collector demand. But this is not that.
It's a hybrid between the things they sold at auction and the regular numismatic program. I honestly don't think the Mint should be in this business, and just don't want to play. If others do, good for them.
Because I don't see it, I have my opinions. If the silver bells do end up being like the FH silver privies, I will have been wrong, and will admit it. If lemmings want to buy $1500 an ounce silver from the Mint for the privilege of owning trinkets only 2025 other dopes will ever have the privilege of owning, plus whatever toll the flippers collect, this is America and it's their money.
I see more value in a $9 brass bell that can sit on my desk and I can hear ring when I like, but that's just me. Doesn't bother me than an unlimited number of other people can also own one.
@Rc5280 said:
"I do still call everything into question."
Your biggest flaw, by far.
Someday, hopefully, you'll understand why I said what I said.
I hate to disappoint you, but I can assure you that I will never spend the time or energy to ponder why you say what you say. Or to care what you think is by far my biggest flaw.
@USSID18 said:
Each U.S. government agency has a number of various recognition awards. Maybe it's been a long term practice (not sure) that the mint would award special coins to it's employees for special achievements. It would be a great idea (for us guys 😂).
Although, I'm sure there are mint employees throughout the country that have zero interest in coins or don't collect coins........hello eBay! 😂
I have no problem with the Mint giving its employees a couple each of the quarters out of the 250K as that will ensure a lot of uncirculated coins are made available when the employees see them on EBay, which some already have.
It's too bad they have 100,000 employees
Well that would be GREAT, imagine how many would like to pick up an extra $100 or so for one or both of their gift coins as the prices plummet as the FOMO fades.
@Old_Collector said:
The US Mint gave each of its employees each two privy quarters and a silver proof set in a July 1st letter.
So a number of them should show up uncirculated.
Clears up part of the mystery regarding where quantity is coming from. And now, whoever buys them from them gets to allow them to monetize the 50 cent bonus Hollis gave them.
IF you intend on distribution of this "colelctor" coin through your network - then make sure the network of banks CAN obtain the new rolls/boxes through their coin suppliers.
ALMOST EVERY bank you ask about obtaining these Declaration of Indepence Quarters gives one of the following responses:
1) we have no idea of what you are talking about - what? a new quarter? what does it look like? we never heard of that.
2) we dont have any
3) we cant order boxes of quarters for you
4) we can order a box of quarters but dont know what we will get
It appears that if you have a contact in one of the large armormed car/coin distributors and know when these coins show up and are delivered - you have a big advantage.
True. But the Mint does not have an army of employees standing on street corners making change for people who still need to feed parking meters, so it is what it is.
They are a manufacturer, and this is how coins are distributed in 2026. Sucks for most people who have no way to obtain these for 25 cents each. So you either pay up, or live your life as though they don't exist.
Absent people suffering from FOMO who think they can't live without them, they are quarters worth nothing more than a quarter each.
I remember when the Wisconsin extra leaf coins were found. Rick Snow found a hoard of them in Arizona. My guess is once a real one is found the coin guys will swarm. I wonder if the Mint put them in every state via bags? If so the folks that roll them will get them if they are paying attention. Anyone here know how that part works?
For those of you who might think that all of the Semiquincentennial designs were original, here's a Jefferson Indian Peace medal from the mid 1800s.
There are claims that the reverse was struck from an original die because it's cracked. Lewis and Clark gave these out to the Indians in various sizes during their expedition.
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@BillJones said:
For those of you who might think that all of the Semiquincentennial designs were original, here's a Jefferson Indian Peace medal from the mid 1800s.
There are claims that the reverse was struck from an original die because it's cracked. Lewis and Clark gave these out to the Indians in various sizes during their expedition.
Also Jefferson and Madison are from presidential dollars, and Lincoln is from a 2009 commemorative
@Coin Finder said:
I remember when the Wisconsin extra leaf coins were found. Rick Snow found a hoard of them in Arizona. My guess is once a real one is found the coin guys will swarm. I wonder if the Mint put them in every state via bags? If so the folks that roll them will get them if they are paying attention. Anyone here know how that part works?
Every state does not get the ballistic bags from the Mint. They are distributed to Fed Reserve branches and each of their corresponding sub branches. You can Google Fedetal Reserve branches for the locations.
Armored car services roll the coins for their customers.
@BillJones said:
For those of you who might think that all of the Semiquincentennial designs were original, here's a Jefferson Indian Peace medal from the mid 1800s.
There are claims that the reverse was struck from an original die because it's cracked. Lewis and Clark gave these out to the Indians in various sizes during their expedition.
Also Jefferson and Madison are from presidential dollars, and Lincoln is from a 2009 commemorative
At least they didn't use this design for Lincoln. This looks like an illustration from the book "Abe Lincoln, the Vampine Slayer."
He looked kind of folksy on some 19th century political tokens.
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We know that exactly 250,000 "Declaration of Independence Privy Quarters" with no mintmark, July 4th Privy were minted. What we don't really know is what the final mintages will be for P&D mint mark business strikes. (Hopefully they wont go too far overboard). This sort of reminds me of the mania surrounding the 1976 "Drummer Boy" quarters that are still in circulation. I find them in circulation all the time. What I think happens is that first people hoard them like crazy, and after about 20 or 30 years realize they lost money by hoarding them, and just end up taking them to the bank, or literally paying Coin-Star to take them off their hands. Of course there are always some errors and varieties that emerge. But scarcity is not one of them. The privy does make them relatively scarce, like the W mint quarters in 2019-2020.
However in terms of rarity - the Privy Quarter is really not that rare, compared to other "Special Strikes":
Type
Year
Strike Type
Mintage
SMS Quarter
1967
SMS
1,863,344
Reverse Proof Silver
2019‑S
Enhanced RP
50,000
Reverse Proof Silver
2020‑S
RP
50,000
Silver Proof ATB Set
2012‑S
Silver Proof
33,000 sets
Privy Quarter
2026
Special circulation
250,000
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@rooksmith said:
We know that exactly 250,000 "Declaration of Independence Privy Quarters" with no mintmark, July 4th Privy were minted. What we don't really know is what the final mintages will be for P&D mint mark business strikes. (Hopefully they wont go too far overboard). This sort of reminds me of the mania surrounding the 1976 "Drummer Boy" quarters that are still in circulation. I find them in circulation all the time. What I think happens is that first people hoard them like crazy, and after about 20 or 30 years realize they lost money by hoarding them, and just end up taking them to the bank, or literally paying Coin-Star to take them off their hands. Of course there are always some errors and varieties that emerge. But scarcity is not one of them. The privy does make them relatively scarce, like the W mint quarters in 2019-2020.
However in terms of rarity - the Privy Quarter is really not that rare, compared to other "Special Strikes":
Type
Year
Strike Type
Mintage
SMS Quarter
1967
SMS
1,863,344
Reverse Proof Silver
2019‑S
Enhanced RP
50,000
Reverse Proof Silver
2020‑S
RP
50,000
Silver Proof ATB Set
2012‑S
Silver Proof
33,000 sets
Privy Quarter
2026
Special circulation
250,000
Never conflate different strikes. Find a business strike that's even close to this number. The privy is a variety not a different finish.
If you conflate the strikes, then proofs would be the keys in every series and they are not.
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@jmlanzaf You are right: its considered a business strike, which it ought to be. I stand corrected. How will PCGS treat it? what mint? According to PCGS it is a MS -Business Strike if it:
1 Struck on normal business‑strike dies
2 Struck with normal business‑strike finish
3 Intended for circulation
4 Distributed through circulation channels
(this last point is questionable if the mint has 16,000 employees and is award them as specimens to employees only, but its less than 1% of the total population)
The only fair comparison is the W-mint quarters which were minted during the National Park years. Those were all 2-million per coin design.
Year
Design
Mintage
2019
Lowell National Historical Park
2,000,000
2019
American Memorial Park
2,000,000
2019
War in the Pacific
2,000,000
2019
San Antonio Missions
2,000,000
2019
Frank Church River of No Return Wilderness
2,000,000
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What is 40 million?
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250,000 is not super rare, the Mint did not hide them -- they marketed them heavily and that is a substantial number no matter how many total coins were minted. Many of those have been around for a while. If two are found and all the rest are melted then they will be super rare.
Ok.
All the people on ebay selling em are in north or South Carolina
This is just stupid, when 300K cents can be bought for less than $100 each. If this sale is real, maybe these are the same people expected to pay $10K for a silver Liberty Bell in 2 weeks.
Yes but also other states like Texas, NJ and Ohio. Distribution appears to be like the W quarters which is in states with Fed Reserve main branch and their sub branches.
I believe there are 24 total branches.
Looks like a smart move to me.
For the seller.
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The Mint announced this on June 23. We are 9 days out from that. Nobody found any prior to the announcement or it would have been major news among the coin communities. They promised to get them out by July 4, but didn’t say if they’d have all 250,00 out by then.
How many quarters does the Mint generallly ship in 10 days time? If this was a rush job, it might make sense that rheyre heavily mixed in with some of the more recent shipments and that the guy in the Carolinas just got lucky with a heavily seeded box (that his friend, spouse, etc at the bank sold him as a favor)?
Just conjecture….not stating this as fact.
148 million circulating Declaration of Independence quarters have been minted to date. 63 million from Philly.
The relevant question is not how many they generally ship in 10 days time, because they can literally ship tens of millions at a moment's notice. So mixing a quarter million coins in multiple shipments involving millions of coins is really not an issue, because it absolutely could be done, and was likely all done at once.
If they are being discovered, they are out there. They are supposed to be widely disbursed, not bunched together in a few bags. Current eBay listings indicate this might not be the case. TBD.
Even so, logic dictates the coins should be worth dozens or hundreds of dollars, not thousands. But who knows anymore? I would love to find one in a box or roll, but wouldn't pay a premium to buy one.
Because it's yet another gimmick, not a must have. I'm also not sure it would be worth the time and effort to go searching for them, if someone didn't just hand one over to me.
I thought he said the listings were fake.
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You gotta love the delusional sellers!🤣😂
Update!! To be clear, this auction had a starting bid of $30,000 and Buy it Now for $40,000.
He has revised it down to $18,000 starting bid and a Buy it Now for $26,000. Still delusional just not as severe!🤣😂
https://www.ebay.com/itm/137476022274?_skw=2026+4th+of+july+quarter&itmmeta=01KWJWBKZ2RGHB848MP8Y1MEWP&hash=item200235a002:g:Fo8AAeSwroZqRs26&itmprp=enc:AQALAAABAGfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xCGK11LboHdmMNjW2cMcBil8qaukKwwOoy3U0U3QphhXMYeQD60ESM/9T++xjWw9xaz4jbq5v42zKdVwOhLWfu6+UGgjaFd57WeWBhHrSQJzErFGSC9MH7Y8lHXZ4UyyWaBFZXmljsdYnXTfmwJrjcOmidW1T2dfB36wwuBpqiFEcmWDvlqCzAK8nrlWyJ8eFXLuJttD3q32BghpjKcOpfMq7O7xoEnkS4RLX3SbPGYMjU02I/4XKXX2K9aW8z4FYZtg6TYv6yx65PrGn7Y3H5Ax3ZSKhN3kiShclR7AOoa--EIESwtywb5IpN7xGmdlS0=|tkp:Bk9SR_C_rtzkZw&keyword=2026+4th+of+july+quarter&sacat=0&relatedSearch=true&LH_Auction=1
Thank's for the chuckle !!!
He's sleeping tonight with visions of sugar-plums dancing in his head!🤣😂
Must be Christmas in July
My guess is he believes he has an entire roll of privy quarters because of it being an ender roll.
Maybe not, if they are coming from multiple people. I still think the one with the ender roll is a scammer. And I notice now that people are trying to hype regular rolls, as though they wouldn't have been searched. EBay really is turning into a cesspool.
That said, the guy with a feedback of 2 offering a roll for $18K is a scammer. And I'm not sure that a scammer would draw a line at not selling a fake coin.
I have no idea how easy it would be to counterfeit this, but the Chinese seem to have an ability to counterfeit just about anything, and Dan Carr does a very nice job with his stuff. So, while I wouldn't be interested in paying up for these in the first place, I absolutely would not pay what these are now going for without the assurance of a TPG slab.
The fact that these sellers are forgoing the premium a slab would create, I do still call everything into question. You see an alternate explanation for just about everything else. No chance these could be fakes, because, at a $1,000 price point, they aren't worth slabbing when slabbed versions are being over at over 2x more? Come on -- use your imagination here!!!
And, even then, given the prevalence of fake slabs, I wouldn't buy from someone with little history. This is fun to talk about, and I guess fun to search for if you have the time and energy, or an inside connection. But, as with the Liberty Bell medals, I don't get paying big premiums for artificial rarities.
No. That's just what he wants YOU to believe.
If it's real, it's a seeded ender roll. Use your head. What are the odds of any one of these actually ending up at the end of a roll, facing the right way?
Now multiply that by the number of ender rolls currently on eBay, and then do the math. This is no different from any other eBay original bank roll scam.
They might or might not be real coins, but they are absolutely not original untouched bank rolls. They are nothing more than an attempt to turn a $1,000 coin into a $20,000 coin by scamming the buyer without making a promise that would trigger an item not as described return.
"I do still call everything into question."
Your biggest flaw, by far.
Someday, hopefully, you'll understand why I said what I said.
Calling something into question requires the use of question marks, not exclamation points.
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The USM again has fumbled the ball.
IF you intend on distribution of this "colelctor" coin through your network - then make sure the network of banks CAN obtain the new rolls/boxes through their coin suppliers.
ALMOST EVERY bank you ask about obtaining these Declaration of Indepence Quarters gives one of the following responses:
1) we have no idea of what you are talking about - what? a new quarter? what does it look like? we never heard of that.
2) we dont have any
3) we cant order boxes of quarters for you
4) we can order a box of quarters but dont know what we will get
It appears that if you have a contact in one of the large armormed car/coin distributors and know when these coins show up and are delivered - you have a big advantage.
The rate in which they show up on ebay in the coming days/weeks; they will be down to $200-$300 IMO in no time.
The US Mint gave each of its employees each two privy quarters and a silver proof set in a July 1st letter.
So a number of them should show up uncirculated.
The letter is posted on EBay next to an auction starting at $2500 for the coin by mistkittin.
Mint bonus.
But, as with the Liberty Bell medals, I don't get paying big premiums for artificial rarities.
What do you consider a non artificial rarity?
@Old_Collector - And that could be our answer right there! As many as 1,600!
Classic coins that became scarce does to attrition.
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Each U.S. government agency has a number of various recognition awards. Maybe it's been a long term practice (not sure) that the mint would award special coins to it's employees for special achievements. It would be a great idea (for us guys 😂).
Although, I'm sure there are mint employees throughout the country that have zero interest in coins or don't collect coins........hello eBay! 😂
I have no problem with the Mint giving its employees a couple each of the quarters out of the 250K as that will ensure a lot of uncirculated coins are made available when the employees see them on EBay, which some already have.
I guess there are ONLY 250,000 being made. I can think of a few other years where there were only 250,000 minted: in 1936 the mint made 3,837 proof Washington Quarters.
Since this is a game that the US Mint set up. I expect roll hunters to buy out all the new quarters at the banks. Since someone is still paying upward of a 100% premium on eBay, you probably wont see any of the Declaration of Independence quarters in pocket change for a while. The Mint plans on minting billions of them (quarters nickels and dimes) because they know people will hoard them.
It's too bad they have 100,000 employees
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One that is organic. Something that survived in low numbers from 100 years ago, or something made in low numbers because there was low demand at the time. Not anything modern that is manufactured in numbers that are intentionally far below organic demand, for no other reason than to collect an obscene premium.
I mean, good for them if people are willing to pay and play. But, I'm sorry, to me it's nothing more than a cynical money grab.
I'll reluctantly pay 3x spot for most silver things because I like them, hope they will retain their value, and because they contain a deep out of the money call option on the future price of silver. Same with gold when made in the usual numbers and sold at the usual prices.
I wish pricing was more in line with the good old days, but I don't really blame them for getting what they can get if the market will support it, while still satisfying collector demand. But this is not that.
It's a hybrid between the things they sold at auction and the regular numismatic program. I honestly don't think the Mint should be in this business, and just don't want to play. If others do, good for them.
Because I don't see it, I have my opinions. If the silver bells do end up being like the FH silver privies, I will have been wrong, and will admit it. If lemmings want to buy $1500 an ounce silver from the Mint for the privilege of owning trinkets only 2025 other dopes will ever have the privilege of owning, plus whatever toll the flippers collect, this is America and it's their money.
I see more value in a $9 brass bell that can sit on my desk and I can hear ring when I like, but that's just me. Doesn't bother me than an unlimited number of other people can also own one.
I hate to disappoint you, but I can assure you that I will never spend the time or energy to ponder why you say what you say. Or to care what you think is by far my biggest flaw.
Well that would be GREAT, imagine how many would like to pick up an extra $100 or so for one or both of their gift coins as the prices plummet as the FOMO fades.
Clears up part of the mystery regarding where quantity is coming from. And now, whoever buys them from them gets to allow them to monetize the 50 cent bonus Hollis gave them.
The grading services are offering a $5000 bounty for the first submitted
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Yes, they'd a whole thread on it.
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True. But the Mint does not have an army of employees standing on street corners making change for people who still need to feed parking meters, so it is what it is.
They are a manufacturer, and this is how coins are distributed in 2026. Sucks for most people who have no way to obtain these for 25 cents each. So you either pay up, or live your life as though they don't exist.
Absent people suffering from FOMO who think they can't live without them, they are quarters worth nothing more than a quarter each.
I remember when the Wisconsin extra leaf coins were found. Rick Snow found a hoard of them in Arizona. My guess is once a real one is found the coin guys will swarm. I wonder if the Mint put them in every state via bags? If so the folks that roll them will get them if they are paying attention. Anyone here know how that part works?
For those of you who might think that all of the Semiquincentennial designs were original, here's a Jefferson Indian Peace medal from the mid 1800s.
There are claims that the reverse was struck from an original die because it's cracked. Lewis and Clark gave these out to the Indians in various sizes during their expedition.
Also Jefferson and Madison are from presidential dollars, and Lincoln is from a 2009 commemorative
NGC is only $2500. Our host is $5000. That's done by now for sure.
Every state does not get the ballistic bags from the Mint. They are distributed to Fed Reserve branches and each of their corresponding sub branches. You can Google Fedetal Reserve branches for the locations.
Armored car services roll the coins for their customers.
At least they didn't use this design for Lincoln. This looks like an illustration from the book "Abe Lincoln, the Vampine Slayer."
He looked kind of folksy on some 19th century political tokens.
We know that exactly 250,000 "Declaration of Independence Privy Quarters" with no mintmark, July 4th Privy were minted. What we don't really know is what the final mintages will be for P&D mint mark business strikes. (Hopefully they wont go too far overboard). This sort of reminds me of the mania surrounding the 1976 "Drummer Boy" quarters that are still in circulation. I find them in circulation all the time. What I think happens is that first people hoard them like crazy, and after about 20 or 30 years realize they lost money by hoarding them, and just end up taking them to the bank, or literally paying Coin-Star to take them off their hands. Of course there are always some errors and varieties that emerge. But scarcity is not one of them. The privy does make them relatively scarce, like the W mint quarters in 2019-2020.
However in terms of rarity - the Privy Quarter is really not that rare, compared to other "Special Strikes":
Sort of looks like Clint Eastwood in "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly", all he needs is the cigar and the hat.
Never conflate different strikes. Find a business strike that's even close to this number. The privy is a variety not a different finish.
If you conflate the strikes, then proofs would be the keys in every series and they are not.
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@jmlanzaf You are right: its considered a business strike, which it ought to be. I stand corrected. How will PCGS treat it? what mint? According to PCGS it is a MS -Business Strike if it:
1 Struck on normal business‑strike dies
2 Struck with normal business‑strike finish
3 Intended for circulation
4 Distributed through circulation channels
(this last point is questionable if the mint has 16,000 employees and is award them as specimens to employees only, but its less than 1% of the total population)
The only fair comparison is the W-mint quarters which were minted during the National Park years. Those were all 2-million per coin design.
Wow! Closed at $2,650.00 and $2,475.00!