1875 and 1876 were interesting years for trade dollars when the mint was transitioning from the type 1 obverse and reverse hubs to type 2. 1875 seemed mostly orderly with a couple of type 2 reverses rolled out but 1876 was a cluster of different combinations and start and stops.
There are three attributed T$ varieties in proof, all from 1876; the type 1/1, the type 2/2, and the Four Finger (aka type 1.5/2, Transitional Obverse, or Recut Finger). When looking at mintages, if taking into account the various hub combos, the scarcest dates are 1885 (5), 1884 (10), and 1876 1/1 (30-35). True mintage of the 1876 1/1 is unknown but is probably no more than 35 and is likely closer to 20.
Some 1876 Proofs look like business strikes and some Philly BS look like proofs; not that surprising consider the re-use of dies. It can make identification difficult. This new addition was in an AU55 holder until I received it back from our hosts yesterday in a PR55 holder with the correct variety attribution.
In trying to think of something to show this morning, I decided I would post a tribute to the last time the ANA WFOM was in Pittsburg, in 2023.
Walking the floor, I found this coin ... and although the seller knew what he had (and had it priced rather aggressively), I couldn't get it out of my head. He had recently had the coin re-holdered with the Overton Number (it's an r.4+ DM) and I would need to send it back in if I wanted the sticker (it had one before, and I did). Finally I asked my friend @Pnies20 to come look at it with me to make sure I wasn't crazy.
He thought I was, kindof ... kidding (I think!) ... and I got the guy to come down a little closer to where I wanted to be. I still paid up, but it was one of the prizes from the Pittsburg Show in 2023. Hopefully there will be another one or two this summer.
Probably top 5 in the CC for this DM.
.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Do I get a “lateness break” as I’m traveling abroad? Didn’t think so, but I’ll go ahead anyway & start with a coffee story. Even though it’s England, they seem to know what a Black Eye is. Everytime I order one, there’s a guy behind the counter that yells out “black bull”. So I asked him what he calls a coffee with a triple shot & he says “a very black bull”.
Today I’m posting (finally) the second of my 3 buys @ CSNS:
This coin was so cool I had to buy it! The selling dealer wouldn’t let it go until I had a look at it, which I greatly appreciate. I know at least one dealer (hint: they’re based in OH & do a lot of CBH biz) that wanted it.
It’s actually cool x 2. One is the pincers 8 variety & two is the surface cleanliness & eye appeal. I’ll throw in the bean - no longer cool but always relevant.
I’ll be back home this Friday night & will post CSNS #3 on Saturday, so back to biz as usual!
Back home from a great trip & looking forward to my homemade redeye this AM!
Todays coin is the 3rd & last of my CSNS buys; it seems like the show was a long time ago:
The 1854-O Eagle with original surfaces is rare; at the AU58 grade level, it is extremely rare! The numbers bear this out - there are 12 AU58 CAC or CACG examples with only a sole 62 in higher grade. I can make a good case for this coin qualifying for a 58+ grade; there is no real wear with only a touch of rub on the obverse. It’s just as likely this is due to bank handling rather than any circulation as it’s so minimal.
There are no detractions; as said above, surfaces are original. Toning is a nice orange gold that enhances its eye appeal. This is an exceptional coin for this tough date!
Great coins, everyone. Happy Saturday to you, all! Here is a new one, and one of the prettiest civil war tokens that I've seen. It once graced the enormous collection of Dr. George Hetrich. He, along with Julius Guttag, wrote the first book on the subject back in the 1920s. Off the market for 100 years, had to pay up:
Stay caffeinated and enjoy the long weekend.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Happy Saturday! I’ve been slowly collecting indian quarter eagles at a rate of about one coin a year. Just added my 4th one.
When I think of coins graded 61, I tend to imagine baggy surfaces and lower eye appeal. But not so with this piece. I didn't know a 61 could be so attractive. (The trueview isn't terrible, but it also isn't good. The pic from Great Collections does a far better job of capturing the coin).
Hail the gift of memory in this fifty-second state. Who sold me down the river and shafts me while he waits. Outside the gates of Eden, star spangled and so late.
Drank 5 cups of coffee today and very wired. Ready for the Knick game!
Here is a calfrac picture hanging in my house. Can't believe my wife allowed it. LOL
Hope Everyone is having a good Memorial Day weekend... I'm up at the York house this weekend. It's a soggy day... missed everyone this morning. I'm starting to accumulate these:
Collecting: Dansco 7070; Middle Date Large Cents (VF-AU); Box of 20;
Saturday AM with family in Houston; our youngest grandson’s 8th grade graduation was a couple days ago & I’ll say it was an impressive ceremony! RedEye as usual today - my daughter in law has the same unit I have at home:
Today I have a NEWP that qualifies as a classic:
Many years ago, when I collected coins found in change to fill my Whitman albums, the 1909-S VDB was elusive (like for most). In later years, I acquired a nice 65RD in a PCGS slab. It had a bit of woodgraining which actually enhanced its eye appeal. But, I sold it as I changed collecting focus.
Today’s coin is only the 2nd one of this classic key date I’ve ever owned. IMO, it’s a spectacular example! Full on RD with no issues; sharply struck & I would bet it’s 65 quality! Eye appeal is exceptional; with the OGH & CAC approval, this one’s a winner I’ll keep as is.
Good Saturday morning everyone! My favorite time of the week, Saturday morning. Spending a little time with the Seated Dollar collection. 1863 MS64+ CAC.
@Copperindian said:
Saturday AM with family in Houston; our youngest grandson’s 8th grade graduation was a couple days ago & I’ll say it was an impressive ceremony! RedEye as usual today - my daughter in law has the same unit I have at home:
Today I have a NEWP that qualifies as a classic:
Many years ago, when I collected coins found in change to fill my Whitman albums, the 1909-S VDB was elusive (like for most). In later years, I acquired a nice 65RD in a PCGS slab. It had a bit of woodgraining which actually enhanced its eye appeal. But, I sold it as I changed collecting focus.
Today’s coin is only the 2nd one of this classic key date I’ve ever owned. IMO, it’s a spectacular example! Full on RD with no issues; sharply struck & I would bet it’s 65 quality! Eye appeal is exceptional; with the OGH & CAC approval, this one’s a winner I’ll keep as is.
Sure looks better than a 64 to me @Copperindian. She is beautiful!
Good Saturday morning, all!
Spent this morning with some dark roast and some eagles.
Meeting up with some friend this afternoon at a local brewery for some lunch and tasty beverages.
Enjoy your weekend!!!
Good morning. Most my coffee is gone just catching up with this thread... Some phenomenal coins in here! I think I'm most in love with @Copperindian 's 1818 bust half in 63. That's THE LOOK for original, mint state surfaces.
I'm cruising through these while I'm at it.
I enlarged some of the holes so the set would fit. Next project on deck, but I still need to find the "gold" ones. There's a two cent, but not a three cent (but a three dollar "gold").
And I didn't realize until I put them in the holder that the 1¢ and $10 are medal turn instead of coin turn. Now I have to find out if they are all like that, or I have more searching to do...
.
Over the last few weeks between travels here and there I have pulled some boxes from the SDB and spent some time with coins that I have had for decades. Some of the sets probably need a new coin or two (now that the grading and crossovers have mostly been done).
Some of the coins still need to be seen by CAC. And while some won't go because, well ... I don't think they will bean ... some have and some will because, well ... I figured they will.
I know most of you probably think of me as a CBH guy over the last number of years, but I have other interests and tastes too.
.
Here's some of my Standing Lib Quarters. Just a modest ChAU/Unc set.
.
.
For a little backstory, I started this set in 1990 at the ANA Show in Seattle, fresh out of the Navy 9 months prior. I had been flipping coins here and there on the PNW Show circuit and through a few shops to try to make a few extra dollars. It was maybe a month or two before the show when one dealer I had become friendly with took me aside and told me I had a good eye, and a good sense for good coins, but that, "one of these days you are going to have to learn to buy some things you can afford to keep".
Those words played around in my mind and ultimately changed the way I collected, and really the way I have been involved in coins ever since. But at that time, they caused me to consider a new series I hadn't collected, yet. A series I wouldn't buy to resell, but ones I would just keep. Thankfully with all of the things between then and now, they are still with me.
My first purchase was two Very ChAU coins (a 1927 and a 1930) from a couple of guys at the JJ Teaparty table for the whopping sum of $130. (for the pair)! Later, in 2003, when I had the raw coins graded they received an AU58 and an MS62 from our host, respectively. I still have them both. One has a bean. The other hasn't been ... yet.
I remember the show was amazing (I had never been to one of the ANA Nationals) and I saw and learned a lot of things, including seeing and holding some coins which I would have never seen otherwise. And talking and listening to what people were saying, and willing to share with a 25 year old. It was also during this time that I also became more of a collector instead of a "flipper", and so I remember these coins fondly every time I spend time with them.
Happy Saturday!
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Staying at a beach house for the weekend to get in some rest and relaxation with the fam. And had to wrestle two coffee makers this morning to squeeze out one cup and one fish.
Try again tomorrow morning,
Coffee, Coffee & coffee - Today, I didn't get enough coffee and its a tough day....Ugh
here is a copper one to hopefully wake me up. I do love this thread and all the fabulous coins...
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@DCW I need that token to become a reality!
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
Maybe we can get @dcarr on board with the idea! It is born from the famous 1859 storecard, John K. Curtis "The Antiquary" by Lovett.
If not, we can always do t-shirts
😆
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
I like it! How about the dancing bear with the beer (or coffee lol) spilling on the reverse? The coin that started it all!
CAC | PCGS | NGC
Either one of those are great. The tee shirt is hilarious.
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
1875 and 1876 were interesting years for trade dollars when the mint was transitioning from the type 1 obverse and reverse hubs to type 2. 1875 seemed mostly orderly with a couple of type 2 reverses rolled out but 1876 was a cluster of different combinations and start and stops.
There are three attributed T$ varieties in proof, all from 1876; the type 1/1, the type 2/2, and the Four Finger (aka type 1.5/2, Transitional Obverse, or Recut Finger). When looking at mintages, if taking into account the various hub combos, the scarcest dates are 1885 (5), 1884 (10), and 1876 1/1 (30-35). True mintage of the 1876 1/1 is unknown but is probably no more than 35 and is likely closer to 20.
Some 1876 Proofs look like business strikes and some Philly BS look like proofs; not that surprising consider the re-use of dies. It can make identification difficult. This new addition was in an AU55 holder until I received it back from our hosts yesterday in a PR55 holder with the correct variety attribution.
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Beautiful!!!!!!!
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Good morning Coffee and Coin Crew!!
In trying to think of something to show this morning, I decided I would post a tribute to the last time the ANA WFOM was in Pittsburg, in 2023.
Walking the floor, I found this coin ... and although the seller knew what he had (and had it priced rather aggressively), I couldn't get it out of my head. He had recently had the coin re-holdered with the Overton Number (it's an r.4+ DM) and I would need to send it back in if I wanted the sticker (it had one before, and I did). Finally I asked my friend @Pnies20 to come look at it with me to make sure I wasn't crazy.
He thought I was, kindof ... kidding (I think!)
... and I got the guy to come down a little closer to where I wanted to be. I still paid up, but it was one of the prizes from the Pittsburg Show in 2023. Hopefully there will be another one or two this summer.
Probably top 5 in the CC for this DM.
.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
@pursuitofliberty i remember it well. Amazing coin.
I remember saying “it’s high but it’s worth it. Get him to come down $50.” 😂 I think he did.
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
I bought a 40 CAC 117 from @CircCam that I’m in love with. Unfortunately, I don’t have a pic to add to the fun.
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
I do!
😍😍😍
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
Coffee in hand and waiting for NHL playoffs this evening to start.
Added this one:
Liberty Seated Half Dollars (lower circulated grades)
@lermish, that trade dollar is stunning!
I saw this "coin" while passing through the ship casino.
It has St Gauden vibes along with "seize the day" motto.
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Happy er....Sunday.....Late to the party. This sweet little Ex. Black Cat dime was too hard to resist.
Do I get a “lateness break” as I’m traveling abroad? Didn’t think so, but I’ll go ahead anyway & start with a coffee story. Even though it’s England, they seem to know what a Black Eye is. Everytime I order one, there’s a guy behind the counter that yells out “black bull”. So I asked him what he calls a coffee with a triple shot & he says “a very black bull”.
Today I’m posting (finally) the second of my 3 buys @ CSNS:
This coin was so cool I had to buy it! The selling dealer wouldn’t let it go until I had a look at it, which I greatly appreciate. I know at least one dealer (hint: they’re based in OH & do a lot of CBH biz) that wanted it.
It’s actually cool x 2. One is the pincers 8 variety & two is the surface cleanliness & eye appeal. I’ll throw in the bean - no longer cool but always relevant.
I’ll be back home this Friday night & will post CSNS #3 on Saturday, so back to biz as usual!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
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Copperindian
Copperindian II
Indy Eagles
Gold Rush
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Early Walkers
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@Copperindian For being gone from your normal time zone, and especially for that coin, you can get a "lateness break".
MmmmHmmmm!! I approve. Lovely!
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
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I was up early, enjoying some 100% Kona, and looking forward to 3 days off! Yee haw! Have a good weekend guys.
Might as well bust the good coins out!
Back home from a great trip & looking forward to my homemade redeye this AM!
Todays coin is the 3rd & last of my CSNS buys; it seems like the show was a long time ago:
The 1854-O Eagle with original surfaces is rare; at the AU58 grade level, it is extremely rare! The numbers bear this out - there are 12 AU58 CAC or CACG examples with only a sole 62 in higher grade. I can make a good case for this coin qualifying for a 58+ grade; there is no real wear with only a touch of rub on the obverse. It’s just as likely this is due to bank handling rather than any circulation as it’s so minimal.
There are no detractions; as said above, surfaces are original. Toning is a nice orange gold that enhances its eye appeal. This is an exceptional coin for this tough date!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Copperindian II
Indy Eagles
Gold Rush
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Early Walkers
Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector
Heading out to spend the day with my grandson!
But on my way out, here's a 1836 CBH, O-106a, the Beaded Reverse, and with just the start of the reverse crack beginning at the rim.
Have a great day/weekend all!!
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
Great coins, everyone. Happy Saturday to you, all! Here is a new one, and one of the prettiest civil war tokens that I've seen. It once graced the enormous collection of Dr. George Hetrich. He, along with Julius Guttag, wrote the first book on the subject back in the 1920s. Off the market for 100 years, had to pay up:
Stay caffeinated and enjoy the long weekend.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Happy Saturday! I’ve been slowly collecting indian quarter eagles at a rate of about one coin a year. Just added my 4th one.
When I think of coins graded 61, I tend to imagine baggy surfaces and lower eye appeal. But not so with this piece. I didn't know a 61 could be so attractive. (The trueview isn't terrible, but it also isn't good. The pic from Great Collections does a far better job of capturing the coin).
Bit of a puzzler in hand as def. full bands but no hairlines and very clean coin. Just admiring with the Starbuck's fresh ground French Roast this AM:
Well, just Love coins, period.
Hail the gift of memory in this fifty-second state. Who sold me down the river and shafts me while he waits. Outside the gates of Eden, star spangled and so late.
Happy Saturday, all!
Little late to the party but I’m still drinking iced coffee with a cool envelope toned walker I picked up awhile back.
Have a great weekend!
Drank 5 cups of coffee today and very wired. Ready for the Knick game!
Here is a calfrac picture hanging in my house. Can't believe my wife allowed it. LOL
Hope Everyone is having a good Memorial Day weekend... I'm up at the York house this weekend. It's a soggy day... missed everyone this morning. I'm starting to accumulate these:
Successful BST transactions with: SilverEagles92; Ahrensdad; Smitty; GregHansen; Lablade; Mercury10c; copperflopper; whatsup; KISHU1; scrapman1077, crispy, canadanz, smallchange, robkool, Mission16, ranshdow, ibzman350, Fallguy, Collectorcoins, SurfinxHI, jwitten, Walkerguy21D, dsessom.
Present!
Saturday AM with family in Houston; our youngest grandson’s 8th grade graduation was a couple days ago & I’ll say it was an impressive ceremony! RedEye as usual today - my daughter in law has the same unit I have at home:
Today I have a NEWP that qualifies as a classic:
Many years ago, when I collected coins found in change to fill my Whitman albums, the 1909-S VDB was elusive (like for most). In later years, I acquired a nice 65RD in a PCGS slab. It had a bit of woodgraining which actually enhanced its eye appeal. But, I sold it as I changed collecting focus.
Today’s coin is only the 2nd one of this classic key date I’ve ever owned. IMO, it’s a spectacular example! Full on RD with no issues; sharply struck & I would bet it’s 65 quality! Eye appeal is exceptional; with the OGH & CAC approval, this one’s a winner I’ll keep as is.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Copperindian II
Indy Eagles
Gold Rush
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Early Walkers
Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector
Happy Sat Guys
An old friend....She still looks good
Good Saturday morning everyone! My favorite time of the week, Saturday morning. Spending a little time with the Seated Dollar collection. 1863 MS64+ CAC.
Sure looks better than a 64 to me @Copperindian. She is beautiful!
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First things first
Having a cup with my best friend.
Happy Saturday, all.
Dead Cat Waltz Exonumia
"Coin collecting for outcasts..."
Good Saturday morning, all!
Spent this morning with some dark roast and some eagles.
Meeting up with some friend this afternoon at a local brewery for some lunch and tasty beverages.
Enjoy your weekend!!!
Good morning. Most my coffee is gone just catching up with this thread... Some phenomenal coins in here! I think I'm most in love with @Copperindian 's 1818 bust half in 63. That's THE LOOK for original, mint state surfaces.
I'm cruising through these while I'm at it.
Trying out a new brand of instant.
I enlarged some of the holes so the set would fit. Next project on deck, but I still need to find the "gold" ones. There's a two cent, but not a three cent (but a three dollar "gold").
And I didn't realize until I put them in the holder that the 1¢ and $10 are medal turn instead of coin turn. Now I have to find out if they are all like that, or I have more searching to do...
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WOW!! Great coins this morning guys!!
Damn I love this thread!!!
.
Over the last few weeks between travels here and there I have pulled some boxes from the SDB and spent some time with coins that I have had for decades. Some of the sets probably need a new coin or two (now that the grading and crossovers have mostly been done).
Some of the coins still need to be seen by CAC. And while some won't go because, well ... I don't think they will bean ... some have and some will because, well ... I figured they will.
I know most of you probably think of me as a CBH guy over the last number of years, but I have other interests and tastes too.
.
Here's some of my Standing Lib Quarters. Just a modest ChAU/Unc set.
.
.
For a little backstory, I started this set in 1990 at the ANA Show in Seattle, fresh out of the Navy 9 months prior. I had been flipping coins here and there on the PNW Show circuit and through a few shops to try to make a few extra dollars. It was maybe a month or two before the show when one dealer I had become friendly with took me aside and told me I had a good eye, and a good sense for good coins, but that, "one of these days you are going to have to learn to buy some things you can afford to keep".
Those words played around in my mind and ultimately changed the way I collected, and really the way I have been involved in coins ever since. But at that time, they caused me to consider a new series I hadn't collected, yet. A series I wouldn't buy to resell, but ones I would just keep. Thankfully with all of the things between then and now, they are still with me.
My first purchase was two Very ChAU coins (a 1927 and a 1930) from a couple of guys at the JJ Teaparty table for the whopping sum of $130. (for the pair)! Later, in 2003, when I had the raw coins graded they received an AU58 and an MS62 from our host, respectively. I still have them both. One has a bean. The other hasn't been ... yet.
I remember the show was amazing (I had never been to one of the ANA Nationals) and I saw and learned a lot of things, including seeing and holding some coins which I would have never seen otherwise. And talking and listening to what people were saying, and willing to share with a 25 year old. It was also during this time that I also became more of a collector instead of a "flipper", and so I remember these coins fondly every time I spend time with them.
Happy Saturday!
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
For the umpteenth time, I love this thread!
@pursuitofliberty: great story Todd - thanks for sharing!
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Copperindian II
Indy Eagles
Gold Rush
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Nickelodeon
Early Walkers
Successful transactions: redraider, winesteven, renomedphys, splitaces, oreville, ajaan, Cent1225, onlyroosies, justindan, blitzdude, DesertMoon, johnnyb, Heubschgold, SunshineRareCoins, ParadimeCoins, ndeagles, Southern_Knights, pcgsregistrycollector
Got this beauty back in like 1974 from a coin dealer as change. Im still happy with it in present day ☺️
Staying at a beach house for the weekend to get in some rest and relaxation with the fam. And had to wrestle two coffee makers this morning to squeeze out one cup and one fish.
Try again tomorrow morning,
And I had to leave my new Miss liberty at home.
This Saturday I am revisiting one of my favorite coins (by looking at photos of it).
This one.
Coffee, Coffee & coffee - Today, I didn't get enough coffee and its a tough day....Ugh
here is a copper one to hopefully wake me up. I do love this thread and all the fabulous coins...
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