1875 and 1876 were interesting years for trade dollars when the mint was transitioning from the type 1 obverse and reverse hubs to type 2. 1875 seemed mostly orderly with a couple of type 2 reverses rolled out but 1876 was a cluster of different combinations and start and stops.
There are three attributed T$ varieties in proof, all from 1876; the type 1/1, the type 2/2, and the Four Finger (aka type 1.5/2, Transitional Obverse, or Recut Finger). When looking at mintages, if taking into account the various hub combos, the scarcest dates are 1885 (5), 1884 (10), and 1876 1/1 (30-35). True mintage of the 1876 1/1 is unknown but is probably no more than 35 and is likely closer to 20.
Some 1876 Proofs look like business strikes and some Philly BS look like proofs; not that surprising consider the re-use of dies. It can make identification difficult. This new addition was in an AU55 holder until I received it back from our hosts yesterday in a PR55 holder with the correct variety attribution.
In trying to think of something to show this morning, I decided I would post a tribute to the last time the ANA WFOM was in Pittsburg, in 2023.
Walking the floor, I found this coin ... and although the seller knew what he had (and had it priced rather aggressively), I couldn't get it out of my head. He had recently had the coin re-holdered with the Overton Number (it's an r.4+ DM) and I would need to send it back in if I wanted the sticker (it had one before, and I did). Finally I asked my friend @Pnies20 to come look at it with me to make sure I wasn't crazy.
He thought I was, kindof ... kidding (I think!) ... and I got the guy to come down a little closer to where I wanted to be. I still paid up, but it was one of the prizes from the Pittsburg Show in 2023. Hopefully there will be another one or two this summer.
Probably top 5 in the CC for this DM.
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“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Do I get a “lateness break” as I’m traveling abroad? Didn’t think so, but I’ll go ahead anyway & start with a coffee story. Even though it’s England, they seem to know what a Black Eye is. Everytime I order one, there’s a guy behind the counter that yells out “black bull”. So I asked him what he calls a coffee with a triple shot & he says “a very black bull”.
Today I’m posting (finally) the second of my 3 buys @ CSNS:
This coin was so cool I had to buy it! The selling dealer wouldn’t let it go until I had a look at it, which I greatly appreciate. I know at least one dealer (hint: they’re based in OH & do a lot of CBH biz) that wanted it.
It’s actually cool x 2. One is the pincers 8 variety & two is the surface cleanliness & eye appeal. I’ll throw in the bean - no longer cool but always relevant.
I’ll be back home this Friday night & will post CSNS #3 on Saturday, so back to biz as usual!
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@DCW I need that token to become a reality!
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
Maybe we can get @dcarr on board with the idea! It is born from the famous 1859 storecard, John K. Curtis "The Antiquary" by Lovett.
If not, we can always do t-shirts
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I like it! How about the dancing bear with the beer (or coffee lol) spilling on the reverse? The coin that started it all!
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Either one of those are great. The tee shirt is hilarious.
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
1875 and 1876 were interesting years for trade dollars when the mint was transitioning from the type 1 obverse and reverse hubs to type 2. 1875 seemed mostly orderly with a couple of type 2 reverses rolled out but 1876 was a cluster of different combinations and start and stops.
There are three attributed T$ varieties in proof, all from 1876; the type 1/1, the type 2/2, and the Four Finger (aka type 1.5/2, Transitional Obverse, or Recut Finger). When looking at mintages, if taking into account the various hub combos, the scarcest dates are 1885 (5), 1884 (10), and 1876 1/1 (30-35). True mintage of the 1876 1/1 is unknown but is probably no more than 35 and is likely closer to 20.
Some 1876 Proofs look like business strikes and some Philly BS look like proofs; not that surprising consider the re-use of dies. It can make identification difficult. This new addition was in an AU55 holder until I received it back from our hosts yesterday in a PR55 holder with the correct variety attribution.
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In trying to think of something to show this morning, I decided I would post a tribute to the last time the ANA WFOM was in Pittsburg, in 2023.
Walking the floor, I found this coin ... and although the seller knew what he had (and had it priced rather aggressively), I couldn't get it out of my head. He had recently had the coin re-holdered with the Overton Number (it's an r.4+ DM) and I would need to send it back in if I wanted the sticker (it had one before, and I did). Finally I asked my friend @Pnies20 to come look at it with me to make sure I wasn't crazy.
He thought I was, kindof ... kidding (I think!)
... and I got the guy to come down a little closer to where I wanted to be. I still paid up, but it was one of the prizes from the Pittsburg Show in 2023. Hopefully there will be another one or two this summer.
Probably top 5 in the CC for this DM.
.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242
@pursuitofliberty i remember it well. Amazing coin.
I remember saying “it’s high but it’s worth it. Get him to come down $50.” 😂 I think he did.
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
I bought a 40 CAC 117 from @CircCam that I’m in love with. Unfortunately, I don’t have a pic to add to the fun.
BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
I do!
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BHNC #248 … 140 and counting.
Coffee in hand and waiting for NHL playoffs this evening to start.
Added this one:
US 50c (1839-1891) G04 to F12
@lermish, that trade dollar is stunning!
I saw this "coin" while passing through the ship casino.
It has St Gauden vibes along with "seize the day" motto.
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Happy er....Sunday.....Late to the party. This sweet little Ex. Black Cat dime was too hard to resist.
Do I get a “lateness break” as I’m traveling abroad? Didn’t think so, but I’ll go ahead anyway & start with a coffee story. Even though it’s England, they seem to know what a Black Eye is. Everytime I order one, there’s a guy behind the counter that yells out “black bull”. So I asked him what he calls a coffee with a triple shot & he says “a very black bull”.
Today I’m posting (finally) the second of my 3 buys @ CSNS:
This coin was so cool I had to buy it! The selling dealer wouldn’t let it go until I had a look at it, which I greatly appreciate. I know at least one dealer (hint: they’re based in OH & do a lot of CBH biz) that wanted it.
It’s actually cool x 2. One is the pincers 8 variety & two is the surface cleanliness & eye appeal. I’ll throw in the bean - no longer cool but always relevant.
I’ll be back home this Friday night & will post CSNS #3 on Saturday, so back to biz as usual!
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@Copperindian For being gone from your normal time zone, and especially for that coin, you can get a "lateness break".
MmmmHmmmm!! I approve. Lovely!
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
Todd - BHNC #242