@Hallco said:
Any idea what has happened to this Atocha? My first thought is bullet, but that can't be right.....right?
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I don't know what happened to that one.
But I can tell that it is one that was struck by Dave Emslie of Prospector's Gold & Gems (PG&G), using dies that I engraved.
I did not ever utilize the patina and wire-brushing technique for antiquing.
When I struck and antiqued similar cobs, I used a patina and burnishing process that did not introduce fine brushing marks (hairlines).
Looks like a test partial puncture, like a partial drilling into surface Which I would suppose is to inspect interior metal of piece. Too bad, but does not show terribly & may possibly be slightly hidden once it paginates.
Love that Milled British (1830-1960) Well, just Love coins, period.
The HSN coins should be good for those of us that have large collections as it will bring in more buyers over time for the older stuff like this already released.
@Mr Lindy said:
The video got reshot, from 16 minutes down to ten.
2k if I heard it right, to 10k mintage now. Or maybe it was 10k all along. Still overstruck on Unc 2026 (W) ASE $.
All 70's. All D mintmark.
Cool offer & I am still pondering it. Never gone down the HSN shopping rabbit hole so I am figuring that out too.
Anyone got theirs yet ?
Last night, he was on again, presenting this Dan Carr item. Covered all of the features again, but then added this:
This is planned to be one in a series of four....four different privy marks.
I did get this one. now I'll be watching for the others.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@Mr Lindy said:
The video got reshot, from 16 minutes down to ten.
2k if I heard it right, to 10k mintage now. Or maybe it was 10k all along. Still overstruck on Unc 2026 (W) ASE $.
All 70's. All D mintmark.
Cool offer & I am still pondering it. Never gone down the HSN shopping rabbit hole so I am figuring that out too.
Anyone got theirs yet ?
Last night, he was on again, presenting this Dan Carr item. Covered all of the features again, but then added this:
This is planned to be one in a series of four....four different privy marks.
I did get this one. now I'll be watching for the others.
Hesitated buying this from HSN, but broke down because I had really hoped to be able to get the set of these, I love that Dan Carr produced what the USM didn't. The order wouldn't go through, said it 'couldn't be delivered to this address'. I called customer service and after nearly 45 minutes waiting the representative looked into it and told me it couldn't be shipped to CA, CO, or MN, don't understand why, VERY disappointing 🤔😐
@Mr Lindy said:
The video got reshot, from 16 minutes down to ten.
2k if I heard it right, to 10k mintage now. Or maybe it was 10k all along. Still overstruck on Unc 2026 (W) ASE $.
All 70's. All D mintmark.
Cool offer & I am still pondering it. Never gone down the HSN shopping rabbit hole so I am figuring that out too.
Anyone got theirs yet ?
Last night, he was on again, presenting this Dan Carr item. Covered all of the features again, but then added this:
This is planned to be one in a series of four....four different privy marks.
I did get this one. now I'll be watching for the others.
Hesitated buying this from HSN, but broke down because I had really hoped to be able to get the set of these, I love that Dan Carr produced what the USM didn't. The order wouldn't go through, said it 'couldn't be delivered to this address'. I called customer service and after nearly 45 minutes waiting the representative looked into it and told me it couldn't be shipped to CA, CO, or MN, don't understand why, VERY disappointing 🤔😐
@illini420 said:
Was thinking about ordering these too, but seeing that they won't ship to California they have decided I'm out.
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I asked my contact about that. He is unsure of HSN, but he is the owner/operator of the associated CSN Mint show (similar content, but not on the HSN channel). He is unaware of any such shipping restrictions from his own outlet: shopcsntv.com
@Mr Lindy said:
The video got reshot, from 16 minutes down to ten.
2k if I heard it right, to 10k mintage now. Or maybe it was 10k all along. Still overstruck on Unc 2026 (W) ASE $.
All 70's. All D mintmark.
Cool offer & I am still pondering it. Never gone down the HSN shopping rabbit hole so I am figuring that out too.
Anyone got theirs yet ?
Last night, he was on again, presenting this Dan Carr item. Covered all of the features again, but then added this:
This is planned to be one in a series of four....four different privy marks.
I did get this one. now I'll be watching for the others.
Hesitated buying this from HSN, but broke down because I had really hoped to be able to get the set of these, I love that Dan Carr produced what the USM didn't. The order wouldn't go through, said it 'couldn't be delivered to this address'. I called customer service and after nearly 45 minutes waiting the representative looked into it and told me it couldn't be shipped to CA, CO, or MN, don't understand why, VERY disappointing 🤔😐
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The CSN/HSN programs do reach an entirely different (and larger) set of customers than I do through my own site.
Maybe some of them will look into other "Carr" items ?
@illini420 said:
Was thinking about ordering these too, but seeing that they won't ship to California they have decided I'm out.
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I asked my contact about that. He is unsure of HSN, but he is the owner/operator of the associated CSN Mint show (similar content, but not on the HSN channel). He is unaware of any such shipping restrictions from his own outlet: shopcsntv.com
@illini420 said:
Was thinking about ordering these too, but seeing that they won't ship to California they have decided I'm out.
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I asked my contact about that. He is unsure of HSN, but he is the owner/operator of the associated CSN Mint show (similar content, but not on the HSN channel). He is unaware of any such shipping restrictions from his own outlet: shopcsntv.com
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Could it be related to state tax law? Not sure that those restrictions would still be a valid counter-measure for them, but just throwing that out there…
It sounds like they have bumped the mintage up to 5000 for the first HSN coin with only two more weeks of production. Then they shift to the second coin which will only be sold on one day on May 22nd. It does not sound like it is a silver eagle, but some other design (only my guess).
3rd clip said 10,000.
Video 1 & 2 had lower possible mintages.
Seems to be a moving target.
I have never followed a HSN offer before but now I reload it a few times a day since video one. All 4 videos are fresh, not altered, cut or expanded.
I do Love my Carr Art so it's been educational from a private commission purchaser's viewpoint.
I have always wondered why so many different ASE $ exist. There's like a couple dozen ASE $ private commission issues off top of my head.
The video states "Daniel did what the US Mint couldn't do", not sure what he's referring to. This looks similar to DC's product except for the privy and mintmark.
I nabbed one today with the 15% discount offer, $195-ish.
I live in Hawaii and had no problem with shipping other than HSN adding $2.00 to the limited free shipping period. Didn't explain why? A penalty for living in paradise(?)
@HalfDime said:
If i was to buy one of the HSN coins I would wait for the PCGS graded ones as they might bring a future premium due to the holder.
1) The dual dated / privy marked / D mm ASEs are ANACS-only items, not ever being offered by HSM in PCGS holders.
2) PCGS will not holder Dan's products unless they are listed in one of the resources that PCGS lists for tokens and medals: https://www.pcgs.com/tokensandmedals (eg, like the Moonlight Mint 1964-D Peace dollar listed in the Krause publication on the list) So, you can't cross this dual dated / privy marked / D mm ASE from ANACS to PCGS even if you tried.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
@Bullsitter said:
What the.........................
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....because CAC are Dan's new initials.
...Shyster. I've seen it before where a popular item (in this case, likely the dual dated ASE, given some similar talking points) is used as a template for absolute bullshit. I've had my own Ike variety listing 'features / description' stolen and applied to a common non-variety Ike.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
I was attracted to Daniel Carr products due to their scarcity. But now HSN talks of 2,000-10,000 mintages. Too many flooding the market. Hopefully it will attract a new, broader audience. I'll stick with the limited runs. Speaking of which, Denver coin show this weekend. Seems like a new coin appears on ebay right afterwards. Guess we'll see...Can't wait for the next tranche of DC coins-medals-tokens.
I'm with you @1776coins (and welcome!). Never bought any Carr 1000+ mintages. Never will. Only one experience with HSN was poor customer service but order was fulfilled eventually. Is this issue subject to consumer confusion with dual dates and proof/upcoming burnished Mint issues?
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@1776Coins said:
Guess we'll see...Can't wait for the next tranche of DC coins-medals-tokens.
I suspect that this four-coin series project with Mike Mezak will keep Mr Carr quite busy over the next few months, leaving not much time for other Moonlight Mint projects during this period.
Steve Palladino - Ike Group member - DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
These arrived today and will
be going to ANACS tomorrow, I do like the reverse of the Flying eagle, just wish he would do it with out stars and Flowing hair obverse.
I sent a few overstrikes to ANACS this morning and noticed none of the recent certificates/inserts had a signature on the back. In light of the multi-thousand mintages for HSN I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised they're not hand-signed anymore, just surprised there's not even a stamped one.
I get it, dies get installed, big nut on the press cranked on, air pressures confirmed, then items hand fed, then tonged off the dies as coins stick. QC looky~see. Rinse & repeat. 24/7/365
I am guessing Daniel has never been busier, an actual long distance marathon of production.
Comments
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I don't know what happened to that one.
But I can tell that it is one that was struck by Dave Emslie of Prospector's Gold & Gems (PG&G), using dies that I engraved.
I did not ever utilize the patina and wire-brushing technique for antiquing.
When I struck and antiqued similar cobs, I used a patina and burnishing process that did not introduce fine brushing marks (hairlines).
.
Looks like a test partial puncture, like a partial drilling into surface Which I would suppose is to inspect interior metal of piece. Too bad, but does not show terribly & may possibly be slightly hidden once it paginates.
Well, just Love coins, period.
The video got reshot, from 16 minutes down to ten.
2k if I heard it right, to 10k mintage now. Or maybe it was 10k all along. Still overstruck on Unc 2026 (W) ASE $.
All 70's. All D mintmark.
Cool offer & I am still pondering it. Never gone down the HSN shopping rabbit hole so I am figuring that out too.
Anyone got theirs yet ?
Happy Hump Day Shopping !
Lindy
Peace Dollars are shipping. Just got the email.
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$5 Type Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/u-s-coins/type-sets/half-eagle-type-set-circulation-strikes-1795-1929/album/344192
CBH Set https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/everyman-collections/everyman-half-dollars/everyman-capped-bust-half-dollars-1807-1839/album/345572
Buffalo nickel and Draped Bust shipping as well.
The HSN coins should be good for those of us that have large collections as it will bring in more buyers over time for the older stuff like this already released.
Early coins:
I dont think dan has 10,000 fans yet but it might be coming will see!
I received my shipping notice also
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Last night, he was on again, presenting this Dan Carr item. Covered all of the features again, but then added this:
This is planned to be one in a series of four....four different privy marks.
I did get this one. now I'll be watching for the others.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Hesitated buying this from HSN, but broke down because I had really hoped to be able to get the set of these, I love that Dan Carr produced what the USM didn't. The order wouldn't go through, said it 'couldn't be delivered to this address'. I called customer service and after nearly 45 minutes waiting the representative looked into it and told me it couldn't be shipped to CA, CO, or MN, don't understand why, VERY disappointing 🤔😐
Still pondering this HSN purchase but I have a Colorado address, so no soup for me.
In mean time I've enjoyed all three HSN 16, 10, & 11 minute video releases.
Maybe Daniel will appear in future shoot ?
The buzz makes me want to add some more Carr Art to my archive...
Was thinking about ordering these too, but seeing that they won't ship to California they have decided I'm out.
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I asked my contact about that. He is unsure of HSN, but he is the owner/operator of the associated CSN Mint show (similar content, but not on the HSN channel). He is unaware of any such shipping restrictions from his own outlet:
shopcsntv.com
.
.
The CSN/HSN programs do reach an entirely different (and larger) set of customers than I do through my own site.
Maybe some of them will look into other "Carr" items ?
.
The link to Dan's product on this site: https://csnmint.com/1776-2026-silver-eagle-overstrike-dual-date-minuteman-privy.html
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
Could it be related to state tax law? Not sure that those restrictions would still be a valid counter-measure for them, but just throwing that out there…
4th video up, runs 12 minutes.
Exciting !
https://www.hsn.com/products/2026-denver-mint-silver-eagle-daniel-carr-dual-date-ove/23891527?sz=13&sf=CO0094&ac&utm_medium=social-paid&utm_source=meta-dynamic-daba&utm_campaign=01142026-CellB-EvergreenJanV1-carousel-frame-broad&utm_term=$23891527&utm_content=120238862948070681-120238862947970681-{{ad.id}&utm_id=120238862948070681&media_type=image&fbclid=IwY2xjawRa3B1leHRuA2FlbQEwAGFkaWQBqzB-bpx3uXNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR7zqV1jv4nuLufDVKmmxGUT_ZUb0KL1j6g95cOeqj66A0xkPzQhMn3aY4vqPw_aem_Kr5VuGjL3EiwFimEZOpW2Q
It sounds like they have bumped the mintage up to 5000 for the first HSN coin with only two more weeks of production. Then they shift to the second coin which will only be sold on one day on May 22nd. It does not sound like it is a silver eagle, but some other design (only my guess).
3rd clip said 10,000.
Video 1 & 2 had lower possible mintages.
Seems to be a moving target.
I have never followed a HSN offer before but now I reload it a few times a day since video one. All 4 videos are fresh, not altered, cut or expanded.
I do Love my Carr Art so it's been educational from a private commission purchaser's viewpoint.
I have always wondered why so many different ASE $ exist. There's like a couple dozen ASE $ private commission issues off top of my head.
Fun 250th !
The video states "Daniel did what the US Mint couldn't do", not sure what he's referring to. This looks similar to DC's product except for the privy and mintmark.
fka renman95, Sep 2005, 7,000 posts
VIDEO 5 up an hour ago, this one is 11 minutes and I am watching now, are you ?
"PCGS & NGC grading these soon" , too !
Never once heard "Fantasy" in 5 videos that total about an hour-long cumulative broadcast.
Still pondering the 1776~2026 ASE $ offer. But with my Colorado address its not available, no soup for me.
Wow ! Video 6 at six minutes up now !
Happy Shopping !
https://www.hsn.com/products/2026-denver-mint-silver-eagle-daniel-carr-dual-date-ove/23891527?sz=13&sf=CO0094&ac&utm_medium=social-paid&utm_source=meta-dynamic-daba&utm_campaign=01142026-CellB-EvergreenJanV1-carousel-frame-broad&utm_term=$23891527&utm_content=120238862948070681-120238862947970681-{{ad.id}&utm_id=120238862948070681&media_type=image&fbclid=IwY2xjawRa3B1leHRuA2FlbQEwAGFkaWQBqzB-bpx3uXNydGMGYXBwX2lkEDIyMjAzOTE3ODgyMDA4OTIAAR7zqV1jv4nuLufDVKmmxGUT_ZUb0KL1j6g95cOeqj66A0xkPzQhMn3aY4vqPw_aem_Kr5VuGjL3EiwFimEZOpW2Q
I nabbed one today with the 15% discount offer, $195-ish.
I live in Hawaii and had no problem with shipping other than HSN adding $2.00 to the limited free shipping period. Didn't explain why? A penalty for living in paradise(?)
fka renman95, Sep 2005, 7,000 posts
What the.........................
.
.
If i was to buy one of the HSN coins I would wait for the PCGS graded ones as they might bring a future premium due to the holder.
Latest arrivals:
1) The dual dated / privy marked / D mm ASEs are ANACS-only items, not ever being offered by HSM in PCGS holders.
2) PCGS will not holder Dan's products unless they are listed in one of the resources that PCGS lists for tokens and medals: https://www.pcgs.com/tokensandmedals (eg, like the Moonlight Mint 1964-D Peace dollar listed in the Krause publication on the list) So, you can't cross this dual dated / privy marked / D mm ASE from ANACS to PCGS even if you tried.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
....because CAC are Dan's new initials.
...Shyster. I've seen it before where a popular item (in this case, likely the dual dated ASE, given some similar talking points) is used as a template for absolute bullshit. I've had my own Ike variety listing 'features / description' stolen and applied to a common non-variety Ike.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
I thought the HSN host said they would also be holdered in PCGS and NGC holders at a later date in his latest video.
I was attracted to Daniel Carr products due to their scarcity. But now HSN talks of 2,000-10,000 mintages. Too many flooding the market. Hopefully it will attract a new, broader audience. I'll stick with the limited runs. Speaking of which, Denver coin show this weekend. Seems like a new coin appears on ebay right afterwards. Guess we'll see...Can't wait for the next tranche of DC coins-medals-tokens.
I'm with you @1776coins (and welcome!). Never bought any Carr 1000+ mintages. Never will. Only one experience with HSN was poor customer service but order was fulfilled eventually. Is this issue subject to consumer confusion with dual dates and proof/upcoming burnished Mint issues?
I suspect that this four-coin series project with Mike Mezak will keep Mr Carr quite busy over the next few months, leaving not much time for other Moonlight Mint projects during this period.
- Ike Group member
- DIVa (Designated Ike Varieties) Project co-lead and attributor
These arrived today and will
be going to ANACS tomorrow, I do like the reverse of the Flying eagle, just wish he would do it with out stars and Flowing hair obverse.
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On the insert for the Peace $, it mentions broken sword. Is this correct
I sent a few overstrikes to ANACS this morning and noticed none of the recent certificates/inserts had a signature on the back. In light of the multi-thousand mintages for HSN I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised they're not hand-signed anymore, just surprised there's not even a stamped one.
Good eye,WDH‼️👍🎯
No,it’s not a broken sword,( wonder which certificates will be rarer⁉️That one or corrected ones‼️
I've got a few in the oven still.
I get it, dies get installed, big nut on the press cranked on, air pressures confirmed, then items hand fed, then tonged off the dies as coins stick. QC looky~see. Rinse & repeat. 24/7/365
I am guessing Daniel has never been busier, an actual long distance marathon of production.
Happy Shopping !
Labeling is the second thing I look at, make sure it gels with the coin.
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