Very tough year so far to get accurate information much further than a month out. Time will tell, but I’ll work on putting that all to bed on Thursday.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Correct
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@NJCoin said:
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
It is not a fair system as people will find out in three days when they go to order this set and they get put into a waiting line before it is sold out, without ever had the chance to purchase it >> even though they were on the website when it was available.
The old system did not do this, somehow they thought it was a good idea to just limit how many would be allowed to show up at the right time.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
They AVERAGE 20-25 million per day. 100 million on peak days like Prime Days and Black Friday is quite reasonable. Other sites estimate a low of 9 million. FWIW. Capital One estimates 300 million items on Prime Days
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
Agreed. The only change that might be more “fair” in the eyes of the customers would be the race to complete a transaction (possibly making an error) in order to beat everyone else to the inventory in your cart. The Ticketmaster method of giving a user with an item in a cart a set time limit to finish before returning it to an “up for grabs” status. Aside from that, the system now works just fine.
@NJCoin said:
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
It is not a fair system as people will find out in three days when they go to order this set and they get put into a waiting line before it is sold out, without ever had the chance to purchase it >> even though they were on the website when it was available.
The old system did not do this, somehow they thought it was a good idea to just limit how many would be allowed to show up at the right time.
WHAT????????????? The old system crashed all over the place, and it was totally hit or miss whether or not you were ever able to load product into a cart, and actually complete a checkout, before the item went unavailable.
Now, you are randomly placed in a waiting room, and will actually be able to complete a purchase if you make it out of the waiting room before the item sells out. No more or less "fair," but much more orderly.
Not to mention, most things, including this, were widely and easily available for subscription for literally months. The fact that people are only waking up at the 11th hour and realizing this is going to be a winner has nothing to do with creating a "fair" system for people with the fastest internet connection, at the expense to the government of paying for Amazon level ecommerce processing for the 45 seconds a few times a year there would actually be a use for it.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
They AVERAGE 20-25 million per day. 100 million on peak days like Prime Days and Black Friday is quite reasonable. Other sites estimate a low of 9 million. FWIW. Capital One estimates 300 million items on Prime Days
AWESOME!!!! How many websites, all over the world, is that spread out over?
And again, what does that have to do with this? That, if properly motivated, the Mint could invest in a system to allow 100K orders to be processed in a minute, to allow some people to avoid wasting a few precious minutes in a waiting room a few days a year while chasing "hot" issues they were unable to subscribe to? 🤣🤣🤣
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
They AVERAGE 20-25 million per day. 100 million on peak days like Prime Days and Black Friday is quite reasonable. Other sites estimate a low of 9 million. FWIW. Capital One estimates 300 million items on Prime Days
AWESOME!!!! How many websites, all over the world, is that spread out over?
And again, what does that have to do with this? That, if properly motivated, the Mint could invest in a system to allow 100K orders to be processed in a minute, to allow some people to avoid wasting a few precious minutes in a waiting room a few days a year while chasing "hot" issues they were unable to subscribe to? 🤣🤣🤣
I'm not suggesting that the Mint do anything,, simply affirming that the numbers were accurate after you doubted its "veracity".
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
They AVERAGE 20-25 million per day. 100 million on peak days like Prime Days and Black Friday is quite reasonable. Other sites estimate a low of 9 million. FWIW. Capital One estimates 300 million items on Prime Days
AWESOME!!!! How many websites, all over the world, is that spread out over?
And again, what does that have to do with this? That, if properly motivated, the Mint could invest in a system to allow 100K orders to be processed in a minute, to allow some people to avoid wasting a few precious minutes in a waiting room a few days a year while chasing "hot" issues they were unable to subscribe to? 🤣🤣🤣
I'm not suggesting that the Mint do anything,, simply affirming that the numbers were accurate after you doubted its "veracity".
And I'm still doubting them. 20-25 million packages per day, worldwide, across all its websites, is a far cry from 115 million. Not to mention the original post implied the activity occurred on a single, US-based website, since that would be an apples to apples comparison with what the Mint is running.
I truly appreciate your desire to argue anything, but you really should stop for a minute and think about what you are saying before jumping down my throat. I am doubting the veracity of the AI response because it is nonsense. As evidenced by your post.
@Mr Lindy said:
My one Philly Congrats has not hit my card as a charge or pre charge as I routinely call every morning to see whats up ? Mint says "subscription processing" since 2-22.
I really want to know. Who do you routinely call every morning? That is to funny.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
They AVERAGE 20-25 million per day. 100 million on peak days like Prime Days and Black Friday is quite reasonable. Other sites estimate a low of 9 million. FWIW. Capital One estimates 300 million items on Prime Days
AWESOME!!!! How many websites, all over the world, is that spread out over?
And again, what does that have to do with this? That, if properly motivated, the Mint could invest in a system to allow 100K orders to be processed in a minute, to allow some people to avoid wasting a few precious minutes in a waiting room a few days a year while chasing "hot" issues they were unable to subscribe to? 🤣🤣🤣
I'm not suggesting that the Mint do anything,, simply affirming that the numbers were accurate after you doubted its "veracity".
And I'm still doubting them. 20-25 million packages per day, worldwide, across all its websites, is a far cry from 115 million. Not to mention the original post implied the activity occurred on a single, US-based website, since that would be an apples to apples comparison with what the Mint is running.
I truly appreciate your desire to argue anything, but you really should stop for a minute and think about what you are saying before jumping down my throat. I am doubting the veracity of the AI response because it is nonsense. As evidenced by your post.
The original post mentions 80,000 per minute ON PEAK DAYS. Capital One actually estimates 300 million items on peak days, which is almost triple that with over 100 million items and 50 million transactions in the US alone.
I'd also point out that the original data is NOT FROM AN AI QUERY. @halfdime posted the data and then a follow-up AI query. I'm not sure what specific data source he used as he didn't quote a reference (I did), but the number is quite reasonable.
You have a strange definition of "jumping down my throat". I simply posted other references that supported the original numbers. I made no other commentary. You're the one who continues to argue the point without even looking for data to support your position or refute the OP's.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Over the last 10 years I've recognized fraud charge three times when I call automated system.
So I call to talk to "REPRESENTATIVE" to inform them.
All three times they tell me they have no alerts, so I alert them. Card gets shut down, charge or charges deleted.
Then new uncompromised card gets created & sent via fedex & in my hands couple days later.
I'm up every day by 3am for my coffee, do CC automated system calls & get the day started with Bloomberg Business and CNBC
By the way, no USMINT authorization or charge for 2026 P ASE Proof Congratulations as of 2-24-26 as of 4am today.
Which makes sense as it's not set to release until 2-26-26 Noon.
I am happy for long term subscribers who may be able to get two or three instead of 2026 altered current limit of one.
@Mr Lindy said:
My one Philly Congrats has not hit my card as a charge or pre charge as I routinely call every morning to see whats up ? Mint says "subscription processing" since 2-22.
I really want to know. Who do you routinely call every morning? That is to funny.
@Mr Lindy said:
My one Philly Congrats has not hit my card as a charge or pre charge as I routinely call every morning to see whats up ? Mint says "subscription processing" since 2-22.
I really want to know. Who do you routinely call every morning? That is to funny.
@Mr Lindy said:
By the way, no USMINT authorization or charge for 2026 P ASE Proof Congratulations as of 2-24-26 as of 4am today.
Which makes sense as it's not set to release until 2-26-26 Noon.
I'm surprised you don't have a pre-authorization charge yet on your credit card.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
That's right they are paying for that capacity.
Do we want a Gov agency to pay for something it does not need on a regular basis to fulfill personal greed? I think not. I want not.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
That's right they are paying for that capacity.
Do we want a Gov agency to pay for something it does not need on a regular basis to fulfill personal greed? I think not. I want not.
C'mon people think it through.
No one suggested that...
It's also possible to pay for added bandwidth temporarily. Amazon probably supplies the service to the Mint as it is
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@Mr Lindy said:
By the way, no USMINT authorization or charge for 2026 P ASE Proof Congratulations as of 2-24-26 as of 4am today.
Which makes sense as it's not set to release until 2-26-26 Noon.
I'm surprised you don't have a pre-authorization charge yet on your credit card.
@NJCoin said:
WHAT????????????? The old system crashed all over the place, and it was totally hit or miss whether or not you were ever able to load product into a cart, and actually complete a checkout, before the item went unavailable.
Now, you are randomly placed in a waiting room, and will actually be able to complete a purchase if you make it out of the waiting room before the item sells out. No more or less "fair," but much more orderly.
Not to mention, most things, including this, were widely and easily available for subscription for literally months. The fact that people are only waking up at the 11th hour and realizing this is going to be a winner has nothing to do with creating a "fair" system for people with the fastest internet connection, at the expense to the government of paying for Amazon level ecommerce processing for the 45 seconds a few times a year there would actually be a use for it.
The old system was excitement and allowed everyone an equal chance if they could pull the strings to get an order in. Now if you get put in the waiting line for a product like this one it is an automatic non purchase as time will run out.
Only the mint would think of restricting buyers the opportunity to acquire what they want as a solution to the bad hosting they get.
@NJCoin said:
WHAT????????????? The old system crashed all over the place, and it was totally hit or miss whether or not you were ever able to load product into a cart, and actually complete a checkout, before the item went unavailable.
Now, you are randomly placed in a waiting room, and will actually be able to complete a purchase if you make it out of the waiting room before the item sells out. No more or less "fair," but much more orderly.
Not to mention, most things, including this, were widely and easily available for subscription for literally months. The fact that people are only waking up at the 11th hour and realizing this is going to be a winner has nothing to do with creating a "fair" system for people with the fastest internet connection, at the expense to the government of paying for Amazon level ecommerce processing for the 45 seconds a few times a year there would actually be a use for it.
The old system was excitement and allowed everyone an equal chance if they could pull the strings to get an order in. Now if you get put in the waiting line for a product like this one it is an automatic non purchase as time will run out.
Only the mint would think of restricting buyers the opportunity to acquire what they want as a solution to the bad hosting they get.
Where are you getting this from?
Every. Single. Time. I was placed in the waiting room, I was given an opportunity to enter the site and make a purchase before sell out. Every. Single. Time.
What you refer to as excitement under the old system was nothing but stress for me. Everyone now truly has an equal chance, as long as they enter the waiting room before 12:00 noon, at which point their spot in the queue is randomized.
Before, your ability to make it through the repeated crashes was based on nothing other than pure luck, persistence, and maybe the quality of your internet connection. Not really fair. Especially if you didn't have access to blazing fast internet.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
That's right they are paying for that capacity.
Do we want a Gov agency to pay for something it does not need on a regular basis to fulfill personal greed? I think not. I want not.
C'mon people think it through.
No one suggested that...
It's also possible to pay for added bandwidth temporarily. Amazon probably supplies the service to the Mint as it is
Yeah I agree that might be an option, I am not an expert in high capacity fulfillment. It will still be an expensive option as they will most likely charge a Gov agency as much as they possibly can.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
That's right they are paying for that capacity.
Do we want a Gov agency to pay for something it does not need on a regular basis to fulfill personal greed? I think not. I want not.
C'mon people think it through.
No one suggested that...
It's also possible to pay for added bandwidth temporarily. Amazon probably supplies the service to the Mint as it is
Yeah I agree that might be an option, I am not an expert in high capacity fulfillment. It will still be an expensive option as they will most likely charge a Gov agency as much as they possibly can.
But there is simply no need. The waiting room works just fine. The 10 minute sell out does not need to be reduced to 20 seconds.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
That's right they are paying for that capacity.
Do we want a Gov agency to pay for something it does not need on a regular basis to fulfill personal greed? I think not. I want not.
C'mon people think it through.
No one suggested that...
It's also possible to pay for added bandwidth temporarily. Amazon probably supplies the service to the Mint as it is
Yeah I agree that might be an option, I am not an expert in high capacity fulfillment. It will still be an expensive option as they will most likely charge a Gov agency as much as they possibly can.
But there is simply no need. The waiting room works just fine. The 10 minute sell out does not need to be reduced to 20 seconds.
Some people have spent longer than 10 minutes in the waiting room. I know you don't buy most of these things. But it is pretty frustrating if you spend an hour or more in the waiting room, especially if you're on a lunch break or something. It's not always a 10 minute sell out. I've spent 30 minutes in a waiting room. Some issues had the waiting room eliminated after 45 minutes.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
That's right they are paying for that capacity.
Do we want a Gov agency to pay for something it does not need on a regular basis to fulfill personal greed? I think not. I want not.
C'mon people think it through.
No one suggested that...
It's also possible to pay for added bandwidth temporarily. Amazon probably supplies the service to the Mint as it is
Yeah I agree that might be an option, I am not an expert in high capacity fulfillment. It will still be an expensive option as they will most likely charge a Gov agency as much as they possibly can.
But there is simply no need. The waiting room works just fine. The 10 minute sell out does not need to be reduced to 20 seconds.
Some people have spent longer than 10 minutes in the waiting room. I know you don't buy most of these things. But it is pretty frustrating if you spend an hour or more in the waiting room, especially if you're on a lunch break or something. It's not always a 10 minute sell out. I've spent 30 minutes in a waiting room. Some issues had the waiting room eliminated after 45 minutes.
Yup. But guess what? The issues where the waiting room cleared after an hour or so are the ones, like the military privies, that did not sell out until after the HHL was lifted. The really hot items, where they had less than 20K units available for sale, typically sell out in a few minutes.
Either way, while it's a truly FASCINATING debate, the US Mint is not Amazon, is not running a global ecommerce site, with literally millions of SKUs offered for sale, and is never going to invest in the infrastructure necessary to appease you with this, for the handful of times per year they have a single item for sale that has very high demand before it sells out in a very short period of time.
What they had before truly sucked, because it was unstable under stress. The waiting room totally fixed that. If you don't have an hour or so to wait, maybe once or twice a year, if you don't get lucky and clear the waiting room in less time, you can be a buyer on eBay rather than a seller. It's okay. It's still not food, water or shelter. You'll be okay.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
That's right they are paying for that capacity.
Do we want a Gov agency to pay for something it does not need on a regular basis to fulfill personal greed? I think not. I want not.
C'mon people think it through.
No one suggested that...
It's also possible to pay for added bandwidth temporarily. Amazon probably supplies the service to the Mint as it is
Yeah I agree that might be an option, I am not an expert in high capacity fulfillment. It will still be an expensive option as they will most likely charge a Gov agency as much as they possibly can.
But there is simply no need. The waiting room works just fine. The 10 minute sell out does not need to be reduced to 20 seconds.
Some people have spent longer than 10 minutes in the waiting room. I know you don't buy most of these things. But it is pretty frustrating if you spend an hour or more in the waiting room, especially if you're on a lunch break or something. It's not always a 10 minute sell out. I've spent 30 minutes in a waiting room. Some issues had the waiting room eliminated after 45 minutes.
Yup. But guess what? The issues where the waiting room clearly after an hour or so are the ones, like the military privies, that did not sell out until after the HHL was lifted. The really hot items, where they had less than 20K units available for sale, typically sell out in a few minutes.
Either way, while it's a truly FASCINATING debate, the US Mint is not Amazon, is not running a global ecommerce site, with literally millions of SKUs offered for sale, and is never going to invest in the infrastructure necessary to appease you with this, for the handful of times per year they have a single item for sale that has very high demand before it sells out in a very short period of time.
What they had before truly sucked, because it was unstable under stress. The waiting room totally fixed that. If you don't have an hour or so to wait, maybe once or twice a year, if you don't get lucky and clear the waiting room in less time, you can be a buyer on eBay rather than a seller. It's okay. It's still not food, water or shelter. You'll be okay.
No one said they were going to do it. But your absolute dismissal of why anyone would want to do it is a bit self-centered.
It is unlikely the Mint owns all the hardware and AWS may well be supplying the web services anyway.
The Mint is running a global ecommerce site.
I don't care. I have much more flexibility in my job than most people. Why you continue to dismiss people's interest in a smoother process for THEM is inconsiderate.
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@cheezhed said:
"ats": 68555, for the double date W mint Eagle
With no HHL it may not last long. I'm sure we will see more of them in the future (like the 2025 Silver set that was again available this morning for a short time)
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
That's right they are paying for that capacity.
Do we want a Gov agency to pay for something it does not need on a regular basis to fulfill personal greed? I think not. I want not.
C'mon people think it through.
No one suggested that...
It's also possible to pay for added bandwidth temporarily. Amazon probably supplies the service to the Mint as it is
Yeah I agree that might be an option, I am not an expert in high capacity fulfillment. It will still be an expensive option as they will most likely charge a Gov agency as much as they possibly can.
But there is simply no need. The waiting room works just fine. The 10 minute sell out does not need to be reduced to 20 seconds.
Some people have spent longer than 10 minutes in the waiting room. I know you don't buy most of these things. But it is pretty frustrating if you spend an hour or more in the waiting room, especially if you're on a lunch break or something. It's not always a 10 minute sell out. I've spent 30 minutes in a waiting room. Some issues had the waiting room eliminated after 45 minutes.
Yup. But guess what? The issues where the waiting room clearly after an hour or so are the ones, like the military privies, that did not sell out until after the HHL was lifted. The really hot items, where they had less than 20K units available for sale, typically sell out in a few minutes.
Either way, while it's a truly FASCINATING debate, the US Mint is not Amazon, is not running a global ecommerce site, with literally millions of SKUs offered for sale, and is never going to invest in the infrastructure necessary to appease you with this, for the handful of times per year they have a single item for sale that has very high demand before it sells out in a very short period of time.
What they had before truly sucked, because it was unstable under stress. The waiting room totally fixed that. If you don't have an hour or so to wait, maybe once or twice a year, if you don't get lucky and clear the waiting room in less time, you can be a buyer on eBay rather than a seller. It's okay. It's still not food, water or shelter. You'll be okay.
No one said they were going to do it. But your absolute dismissal of why anyone would want to do it is a bit self-centered.
It is unlikely the Mint owns all the hardware and AWS may well be supplying the web services anyway.
The Mint is running a global ecommerce site.
I don't care. I have much more flexibility in my job than most people. Why you continue to dismiss people's interest in a smoother process for THEM is inconsiderate.
Yes. I'm very inconsiderate. Let's just spend whatever it takes in order to allow anyone at any time to be able to get in and out of any website in less than a minute. 🤣
Come to think of it, it is very inconsiderate for the Mint to launch product at noon on weekdays, Eastern time, when many people have to work. And when it is not noon in every time zone. I think launches should be held at 8:00 p.m. on Thursdays, and should be geo fenced so it's 8:00 p.m. for everyone, all over the world, since the Mint is running a global ecommerce site.
1/24th of each ATS for each time zone, with anything left also released, 1/24th at a time, at noon local time the next day. Should I call my congressperson to make the demand?
@NJCoin said:
What they had before truly sucked, because it was unstable under stress. The waiting room totally fixed that. If you don't have an hour or so to wait, maybe once or twice a year, if you don't get lucky and clear the waiting room in less time, you can be a buyer on eBay rather than a seller. It's okay. It's still not food, water or shelter. You'll be okay.
The waiting room fixed it because instead of increasing the number of potential customers allowed to purchase, they restricted the amount of potential customers able to purchase.
The waiting room is not actually fair because they arbitrarily pick who can buy instead of allowing customers to determine it. The odds are nobody placed in the waiting room tomorrow has a chance to buy a coin set. Even if they were up at 5 AM.
@NJCoin said:
What they had before truly sucked, because it was unstable under stress. The waiting room totally fixed that. If you don't have an hour or so to wait, maybe once or twice a year, if you don't get lucky and clear the waiting room in less time, you can be a buyer on eBay rather than a seller. It's okay. It's still not food, water or shelter. You'll be okay.
The waiting room fixed it because instead of increasing the number of potential customers allowed to purchase, they restricted the amount of potential customers able to purchase.
The waiting room is not actually fair because they arbitrarily pick who can buy instead of allowing customers to determine it. The odds are nobody placed in the waiting room tomorrow has a chance to buy a coin set. Even if they were up at 5 AM.
No. I'm afraid you don't understand how it works. Yes, being up at 5:00 a.m. isn't going to help, and that's not unfair.
What they do is randomize the place in the queue of everyone who is in the waiting room when they actually put it into effect. Nothing more fair than that.
"Allowing customers to determine it" by access to superior equipment or super fast internet is the very epitome of unfair. Now, literally everyone who hits the site by shortly before noon on release day gets the same shot.
The odds are 100% that the only people able to buy anything tomorrow will be people who were placed in the waiting room. Unless, in the case of the dual dated coin, any remain after they close the waiting room.
The fact that all of them won't be able to buy, if the number of people exceeds the number of coins available, is just math. But there is nothing more fair than running a lottery in which everyone has an equal chance, rather than stratifying potential buyers by the speed and quality of their computer equipment.
And, again, for the true fans here, both coins being released tomorrow were available for subscription literally for months last year. The fact that people are just waking up today because people are talking about it is no one's fault but their own.
@NJCoin said:
Also, their new system with the waiting room actually works pretty well. "The largest etailers" don't handle nearly the level of traffic the Mint attracts for a hot release.
From data it appears Amazon easily takes magnitudes of orders above what the mint does on the busiest day of the year, well over 80,000 per minute. There are databases that could handle everything the mint would bring to them. A large AI database can require the electrical needs of one nuclear power plant all by itself.
Asking AI:
Do "the largest etailers" handle nearly the level of traffic the US Mint attracts for a hot release
No. The biggest online retailers handle vastly more traffic, even during normal operations, than the U.S. Mint sees in a “hot” numismatic release.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
That's right they are paying for that capacity.
Do we want a Gov agency to pay for something it does not need on a regular basis to fulfill personal greed? I think not. I want not.
C'mon people think it through.
No one suggested that...
It's also possible to pay for added bandwidth temporarily. Amazon probably supplies the service to the Mint as it is
Yeah I agree that might be an option, I am not an expert in high capacity fulfillment. It will still be an expensive option as they will most likely charge a Gov agency as much as they possibly can.
But there is simply no need. The waiting room works just fine. The 10 minute sell out does not need to be reduced to 20 seconds.
Some people have spent longer than 10 minutes in the waiting room. I know you don't buy most of these things. But it is pretty frustrating if you spend an hour or more in the waiting room, especially if you're on a lunch break or something. It's not always a 10 minute sell out. I've spent 30 minutes in a waiting room. Some issues had the waiting room eliminated after 45 minutes.
Yup. But guess what? The issues where the waiting room clearly after an hour or so are the ones, like the military privies, that did not sell out until after the HHL was lifted. The really hot items, where they had less than 20K units available for sale, typically sell out in a few minutes.
Either way, while it's a truly FASCINATING debate, the US Mint is not Amazon, is not running a global ecommerce site, with literally millions of SKUs offered for sale, and is never going to invest in the infrastructure necessary to appease you with this, for the handful of times per year they have a single item for sale that has very high demand before it sells out in a very short period of time.
What they had before truly sucked, because it was unstable under stress. The waiting room totally fixed that. If you don't have an hour or so to wait, maybe once or twice a year, if you don't get lucky and clear the waiting room in less time, you can be a buyer on eBay rather than a seller. It's okay. It's still not food, water or shelter. You'll be okay.
No one said they were going to do it. But your absolute dismissal of why anyone would want to do it is a bit self-centered.
It is unlikely the Mint owns all the hardware and AWS may well be supplying the web services anyway.
The Mint is running a global ecommerce site.
I don't care. I have much more flexibility in my job than most people. Why you continue to dismiss people's interest in a smoother process for THEM is inconsiderate.
Yes. I'm very inconsiderate. Let's just spend whatever it takes in order to allow anyone at any time to be able to get in and out of any website in less than a minute. 🤣
Come to think of it, it is very inconsiderate for the Mint to launch product at noon on weekdays, Eastern time, when many people have to work. And when it is not noon in every time zone. I think launches should be held at 8:00 p.m. on Thursdays, and should be geo fenced so it's 8:00 p.m. for everyone, all over the world, since the Mint is running a global ecommerce site.
1/24th of each ATS for each time zone, with anything left also released, 1/24th at a time, at noon local time the next day. Should I call my congressperson to make the demand?
Inconsiderate. 🤣
Also true.
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@cheezhed said:
"ats": 68555, for the double date W mint Eagle
With no HHL it may not last long. I'm sure we will see more of them in the future (like the 2025 Silver set that was again available this morning for a short time)
they sold nearly 300,000 2025 silver eagle proofs, that are not special at all.
And I see that they’ve sold already 200,000 2026s with the dual date per the Mint sales report, so I don’t see any reason why they’re not gonna be able to sellout of this initial lot especially after the limit is lifted.
The question is with the higher price will they sell as many and will they bother minting more?
Either way for us non dealers, I mean to grade and sell on eBay and pay all the fees, your break even is around $300 or a little less, plus you’re hoping to get 70s
So it’s a good coin to get, but are you really gonna make any money buying a bunch of them?
Comments
Very tough year so far to get accurate information much further than a month out. Time will tell, but I’ll work on putting that all to bed on Thursday.
Great. AI.
Does Amazon really handle 80,000 orders per minute? If so, great, but that would be 4.8 million orders per hour, and over 115 million orders in a 24 hour period, so I question its veracity.
In any event, all that means is that it's a much larger operation that is scaled to its needs. It would make no sense for the Mint to maintain Amazon's ecommerce platform for the dozen times per year it experiences a fraction of Amazon level traffic for a few minutes.
The previous crashing website was clearly inadequate. The current one, with the waiting room, allowing the Mint to orderly process a sell out of tens of thousands of items in a matter of minutes, with no crashes, seems to work just fine. Increasing capacity, and reducing minutes to seconds, really wouldn't serve a purpose, would it?
Correct
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It is not a fair system as people will find out in three days when they go to order this set and they get put into a waiting line before it is sold out, without ever had the chance to purchase it >> even though they were on the website when it was available.
The old system did not do this, somehow they thought it was a good idea to just limit how many would be allowed to show up at the right time.
They AVERAGE 20-25 million per day. 100 million on peak days like Prime Days and Black Friday is quite reasonable. Other sites estimate a low of 9 million. FWIW. Capital One estimates 300 million items on Prime Days
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Agreed. The only change that might be more “fair” in the eyes of the customers would be the race to complete a transaction (possibly making an error) in order to beat everyone else to the inventory in your cart. The Ticketmaster method of giving a user with an item in a cart a set time limit to finish before returning it to an “up for grabs” status. Aside from that, the system now works just fine.
WHAT????????????? The old system crashed all over the place, and it was totally hit or miss whether or not you were ever able to load product into a cart, and actually complete a checkout, before the item went unavailable.
Now, you are randomly placed in a waiting room, and will actually be able to complete a purchase if you make it out of the waiting room before the item sells out. No more or less "fair," but much more orderly.
Not to mention, most things, including this, were widely and easily available for subscription for literally months. The fact that people are only waking up at the 11th hour and realizing this is going to be a winner has nothing to do with creating a "fair" system for people with the fastest internet connection, at the expense to the government of paying for Amazon level ecommerce processing for the 45 seconds a few times a year there would actually be a use for it.
AWESOME!!!! How many websites, all over the world, is that spread out over?
And again, what does that have to do with this? That, if properly motivated, the Mint could invest in a system to allow 100K orders to be processed in a minute, to allow some people to avoid wasting a few precious minutes in a waiting room a few days a year while chasing "hot" issues they were unable to subscribe to? 🤣🤣🤣
I'm not suggesting that the Mint do anything,, simply affirming that the numbers were accurate after you doubted its "veracity".
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And I'm still doubting them. 20-25 million packages per day, worldwide, across all its websites, is a far cry from 115 million. Not to mention the original post implied the activity occurred on a single, US-based website, since that would be an apples to apples comparison with what the Mint is running.
I truly appreciate your desire to argue anything, but you really should stop for a minute and think about what you are saying before jumping down my throat. I am doubting the veracity of the AI response because it is nonsense. As evidenced by your post.
My cc charged $525 yesterday 2/22. Maybe I'll be getting 3.
I really want to know. Who do you routinely call every morning? That is to funny.
Ebay pre sale prices: Raw around $275, PF69 around $375. PF70 around $700. or best offer. Will these prices hold?
The original post mentions 80,000 per minute ON PEAK DAYS. Capital One actually estimates 300 million items on peak days, which is almost triple that with over 100 million items and 50 million transactions in the US alone.
I'd also point out that the original data is NOT FROM AN AI QUERY. @halfdime posted the data and then a follow-up AI query. I'm not sure what specific data source he used as he didn't quote a reference (I did), but the number is quite reasonable.
You have a strange definition of "jumping down my throat". I simply posted other references that supported the original numbers. I made no other commentary. You're the one who continues to argue the point without even looking for data to support your position or refute the OP's.
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For a week? Sure. For a year, probably not.
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ATS 8354
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Copy/paste this;
"https://www.usmint.gov/on/demandware.store/Sites-USM-Site/default/Product-Variation?pid="
Then add the product number "26RF" in the case of the congratulations set
After you pull up the page, search in page for "ats"
Indeed, pretty much every day, 99% of the time.
Over the last 10 years I've recognized fraud charge three times when I call automated system.
So I call to talk to "REPRESENTATIVE" to inform them.
All three times they tell me they have no alerts, so I alert them. Card gets shut down, charge or charges deleted.
Then new uncompromised card gets created & sent via fedex & in my hands couple days later.
I'm up every day by 3am for my coffee, do CC automated system calls & get the day started with Bloomberg Business and CNBC
By the way, no USMINT authorization or charge for 2026 P ASE Proof Congratulations as of 2-24-26 as of 4am today.
Which makes sense as it's not set to release until 2-26-26 Noon.
I am happy for long term subscribers who may be able to get two or three instead of 2026 altered current limit of one.
Happy Tuesday !
I'm surprised you don't have a pre-authorization charge yet on your credit card.
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Also, What does your Mint Subscription Page show?
BST references available on request
I have the same message , however only one . I'm not sure why the shipping date is TBD ?.
That's right they are paying for that capacity.
Do we want a Gov agency to pay for something it does not need on a regular basis to fulfill personal greed? I think not. I want not.
C'mon people think it through.
Many thanks! I used it before and must have added a character to it before saving, thus it wouldn't work.
The mintage of just 60,000 is hard to believe. I do have 1 on subsciption and will pay the outragous $$ for it too.🤑🤑🤑
USN & USAF retired 1971-1993
Successful Transactions with more than 100 Members
Mine is showing it will be shipping first class mail.
ON the 26th ?
It is showing it in the shipping method on the order number.
Thank you brother !
No one suggested that...
It's also possible to pay for added bandwidth temporarily. Amazon probably supplies the service to the Mint as it is
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'Subscription Processing' - CC hit.
Ha !
My single one of 60k Philly ASE $ is now "subscription processing" & CC hit 2-25 5:37am
The old system was excitement and allowed everyone an equal chance if they could pull the strings to get an order in. Now if you get put in the waiting line for a product like this one it is an automatic non purchase as time will run out.
Only the mint would think of restricting buyers the opportunity to acquire what they want as a solution to the bad hosting they get.
Where are you getting this from?
Every. Single. Time. I was placed in the waiting room, I was given an opportunity to enter the site and make a purchase before sell out. Every. Single. Time.
What you refer to as excitement under the old system was nothing but stress for me. Everyone now truly has an equal chance, as long as they enter the waiting room before 12:00 noon, at which point their spot in the queue is randomized.
Before, your ability to make it through the repeated crashes was based on nothing other than pure luck, persistence, and maybe the quality of your internet connection. Not really fair. Especially if you didn't have access to blazing fast internet.
Yeah I agree that might be an option, I am not an expert in high capacity fulfillment. It will still be an expensive option as they will most likely charge a Gov agency as much as they possibly can.
But there is simply no need. The waiting room works just fine. The 10 minute sell out does not need to be reduced to 20 seconds.
ats: 8,354
Comment: 'Not a whole lot for opening day available'
Some people have spent longer than 10 minutes in the waiting room. I know you don't buy most of these things. But it is pretty frustrating if you spend an hour or more in the waiting room, especially if you're on a lunch break or something. It's not always a 10 minute sell out. I've spent 30 minutes in a waiting room. Some issues had the waiting room eliminated after 45 minutes.
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Charged? or Pending Charge? I don't think they are charged until the order flips from processing to shipped.
Yup. But guess what? The issues where the waiting room cleared after an hour or so are the ones, like the military privies, that did not sell out until after the HHL was lifted. The really hot items, where they had less than 20K units available for sale, typically sell out in a few minutes.
Either way, while it's a truly FASCINATING debate, the US Mint is not Amazon, is not running a global ecommerce site, with literally millions of SKUs offered for sale, and is never going to invest in the infrastructure necessary to appease you with this, for the handful of times per year they have a single item for sale that has very high demand before it sells out in a very short period of time.
What they had before truly sucked, because it was unstable under stress. The waiting room totally fixed that. If you don't have an hour or so to wait, maybe once or twice a year, if you don't get lucky and clear the waiting room in less time, you can be a buyer on eBay rather than a seller. It's okay. It's still not food, water or shelter. You'll be okay.
If I got one in my sub can I still get another one on the 26th?
Mike
My Indians
Dansco Set
no
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ats 8379
As of 7:36 EST 2/25/2026
(edited....searched wrong one....8379 it is!)
"ats": 68555, for the double date W mint Eagle
With no HHL it may not last long. I'm sure we will see more of them in the future (like the 2025 Silver set that was again available this morning for a short time)
Yes. I'm very inconsiderate. Let's just spend whatever it takes in order to allow anyone at any time to be able to get in and out of any website in less than a minute. 🤣
Come to think of it, it is very inconsiderate for the Mint to launch product at noon on weekdays, Eastern time, when many people have to work. And when it is not noon in every time zone. I think launches should be held at 8:00 p.m. on Thursdays, and should be geo fenced so it's 8:00 p.m. for everyone, all over the world, since the Mint is running a global ecommerce site.
1/24th of each ATS for each time zone, with anything left also released, 1/24th at a time, at noon local time the next day. Should I call my congressperson to make the demand?
Inconsiderate. 🤣
The waiting room fixed it because instead of increasing the number of potential customers allowed to purchase, they restricted the amount of potential customers able to purchase.
The waiting room is not actually fair because they arbitrarily pick who can buy instead of allowing customers to determine it. The odds are nobody placed in the waiting room tomorrow has a chance to buy a coin set. Even if they were up at 5 AM.
No. I'm afraid you don't understand how it works. Yes, being up at 5:00 a.m. isn't going to help, and that's not unfair.
What they do is randomize the place in the queue of everyone who is in the waiting room when they actually put it into effect. Nothing more fair than that.
"Allowing customers to determine it" by access to superior equipment or super fast internet is the very epitome of unfair. Now, literally everyone who hits the site by shortly before noon on release day gets the same shot.
The odds are 100% that the only people able to buy anything tomorrow will be people who were placed in the waiting room. Unless, in the case of the dual dated coin, any remain after they close the waiting room.
The fact that all of them won't be able to buy, if the number of people exceeds the number of coins available, is just math. But there is nothing more fair than running a lottery in which everyone has an equal chance, rather than stratifying potential buyers by the speed and quality of their computer equipment.
And, again, for the true fans here, both coins being released tomorrow were available for subscription literally for months last year. The fact that people are just waking up today because people are talking about it is no one's fault but their own.
Also true.
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they sold nearly 300,000 2025 silver eagle proofs, that are not special at all.
And I see that they’ve sold already 200,000 2026s with the dual date per the Mint sales report, so I don’t see any reason why they’re not gonna be able to sellout of this initial lot especially after the limit is lifted.
The question is with the higher price will they sell as many and will they bother minting more?
Either way for us non dealers, I mean to grade and sell on eBay and pay all the fees, your break even is around $300 or a little less, plus you’re hoping to get 70s
So it’s a good coin to get, but are you really gonna make any money buying a bunch of them?