@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
No
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Thanks for the post, I'm not always sure what the US Mint is going to do. The V75 Privy is a Type 1 proof Eagle and lowest minted Privy... Still selling strong I think..
This 2026 will be a type two eagle, so hard to tell in the long run, but flippers could do well short term maybe..
@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Yes. Whatever they are "clearing out" was manufactured at much lower prices, and has been sitting for quite a while.
As long as they are not selling at below what they can get by melting them, what they are doing makes perfect sense,when they alternative is repricing it and having it continue to sit unsold. Just don't expect to see them sell any 2026 numismatic product at anything close to a 20% premium to spot.
@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
If you want them, yes. The Mint selling numismatic product at anything close to spot is a rare occurrence. Just don't buy expecting to make a killing, because, if the Mint can't sell it at a large premium, you won't be able to either.
@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
No
Might you enlighten me why that is ? Just wondering . Lot's of folks think the price of silver is gonna skyrocket ?
@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
No
Might you enlighten me why that is ? Just wondering . Lot's of folks think the price of silver is gonna skyrocket ?
If you want a bullion play, buy bullion. Why would you pay a premium to own them? U.S. Mint collector products are about the worst way to invest in bullion.
As for coins, anything that didn't sell out at the mint is only going to move with bullion and the premium will evaporate if the price goes up, so there is also no point in buying them as numismatic "investments".
If you want to own one or more, buy one. But, if you didn't already buy one, it's because you don't want one. The price didn't go down.
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@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
If you want them, yes. The Mint selling numismatic product at anything close to spot is a rare occurrence. Just don't buy expecting to make a killing, because, if the Mint can't sell it at a large premium, you won't be able to either.
I am in total agreement with NJ. When that happens, you best heed our advice. 😅
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@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
No
Might you enlighten me why that is ? Just wondering . Lot's of folks think the price of silver is gonna skyrocket ?
If you want a bullion play, buy bullion. Why would you pay a premium to own them? U.S. Mint collector products are about the worst way to invest in bullion.
As for coins, anything that didn't sell out at the mint is only going to move with bullion and the premium will evaporate if the price goes up, so there is also no point in buying them as numismatic "investments".
If you want to own one or more, buy one. But, if you didn't already buy one, it's because you don't want one. The price didn't go down.
Where might one purchase physical silver , in hand ? NOT ON PAPER !
@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
No
Might you enlighten me why that is ? Just wondering . Lot's of folks think the price of silver is gonna skyrocket ?
If you want a bullion play, buy bullion. Why would you pay a premium to own them? U.S. Mint collector products are about the worst way to invest in bullion.
As for coins, anything that didn't sell out at the mint is only going to move with bullion and the premium will evaporate if the price goes up, so there is also no point in buying them as numismatic "investments".
If you want to own one or more, buy one. But, if you didn't already buy one, it's because you don't want one. The price didn't go down.
Actually right now, the random year BU silver eagle at a big dealer's site is around $100.15 (if buy 1-19 with credit card), more expensive then the mint Unc SE which is only $91.
@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
No
Might you enlighten me why that is ? Just wondering . Lot's of folks think the price of silver is gonna skyrocket ?
If you want a bullion play, buy bullion. Why would you pay a premium to own them? U.S. Mint collector products are about the worst way to invest in bullion.
As for coins, anything that didn't sell out at the mint is only going to move with bullion and the premium will evaporate if the price goes up, so there is also no point in buying them as numismatic "investments".
If you want to own one or more, buy one. But, if you didn't already buy one, it's because you don't want one. The price didn't go down.
Actually right now, the random year BU silver eagle at a big dealer's site is around $100.15 (if buy 1-19 with credit card), more expensive then the mint Unc SE which is only $91.
Yes. That's true. So if you want one, buy it. That doesn't make it a good future investment. I don't know any dealers buying at $100, so there is no arbitrage opportunity.
Upstate is buying at $83 and selling at $94. There's no reason to consider the Mint Eagles to be a bargain worth buying UNLESS YOU WANT TO OWN ONE.
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@NJCoin said:
Also no new coins. Trust me, it's coming.
They are selling silver products today for below what bulk dealers charge, Maybe they want to clear out all the inventory, all those silver medals especially. They have thousands to clear out that would normally takes years.
Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
No
Might you enlighten me why that is ? Just wondering . Lot's of folks think the price of silver is gonna skyrocket ?
If you want a bullion play, buy bullion. Why would you pay a premium to own them? U.S. Mint collector products are about the worst way to invest in bullion.
As for coins, anything that didn't sell out at the mint is only going to move with bullion and the premium will evaporate if the price goes up, so there is also no point in buying them as numismatic "investments".
If you want to own one or more, buy one. But, if you didn't already buy one, it's because you don't want one. The price didn't go down.
Where might one purchase physical silver , in hand ? NOT ON PAPER !
You're kidding, right? All the usual places, including the BST. It's not hard to buy physical silver. Go to any coin store, coin show, dealer website, Ebay, BST.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
@grote15 said:
Will this issue still be a winner at about $175?
Yes. Not a home run, but yes. How many proof ASEs with a mintage of 60K can you buy today for less than $175, no matter what the Mint originally sold them for?
@grote15 said:
Will this issue still be a winner at about $175?
Yes. Not a home run, but yes. How many proof ASEs with a mintage of 60K can you buy today for less than $175, no matter what the Mint originally sold them for?
It is worth noting, however, that the number of collectors appears to be under 100,000 now based on sales of the regular proof coins. I'm not sure how many years it will take before we'll find that 60,000 will be the norm.
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@grote15 said:
Will this issue still be a winner at about $175?
Yes. Not a home run, but yes. How many proof ASEs with a mintage of 60K can you buy today for less than $175, no matter what the Mint originally sold them for?
It is worth noting, however, that the number of collectors appears to be under 100,000 now based on sales of the regular proof coins. I'm not sure how many years it will take before we'll find that 60,000 will be the norm.
True. And, unfortunately, with the new pricing, that day will be coming sooner rather than later. Once upon a time, like maybe 10-15 years ago or so, they priced at a modest premium to modestly priced silver, and easily sold over 500K per year.
Rising silver prices naturally cut into that, but rising Mint premiums on top of rising spot prices greatly contributed to demand destruction. Far more than collector fatigue.
They still sold nearly 300K of the 2025 proof ASE, and only around 50K of that was accounted for between the beginning of December and today. So there was still robust collector demand for far more than 100K before the latest price increase.
60K will be a winner at $175 for the foreseeable future, although significantly less good than at $105. 100K would also be a winner, although a lot less of a slam dunk, given that the military privies were a double at $105 with that mintage.
It's the 2026 dual date that is a big question mark at $173 with a mintage of 500K, because I'm not sure that the value is there at that price, and at that premium to the current spot price.
@ClawCoins said:
My subscription is for 1. I tried to adjust it to 2 but it gives me an error of "The household limit for this subscription has been exceeded."
So 1 it is.
My subscription still shows 3 but I suspect they will process only 1.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Sure would have been nice to pick these up at a more reasonable price and on the original schedule. The good ole mint instead having us bend over as we wait for the new release date.
These new prices that I looked at last night are higher than I could have anticipated. When I get in the buying/not buying window that the mint has, I will have no choice other than to decrease to 1or maybe 2 if I win the lotto.
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@Goldbully said:
Anyone cancelling their subscription due to the $175 price tag?
The sale is February 26th.
Someone must have I was able to get one at 7:30. Now I have a month to decide if I want to cancel.
It's been a while since I stalked the mint website at 5:30AM local time (Since 2019 ERP). Do subscription availabilities update daily at that time or once per week? I never subscribed to this set in the past because it was the same as the other proofs. This year it appears to be the only way to get the P mint marked coin.
@philographer said:
Wonder what the after-market demand will be for these considering the mint repricing.
What's the market demand?
Lukewarm. Subscriptions have been available again for a minute.
I know. That wasn't my point. My point was that I would judge it by the market not the after market. I wouldn't expect it to be hotter in the after market.
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You talked me into getting the 2026 Congratulations Philly issue.
Been checking in at Mint daily since you noted its lower 60k mintage desirability, then red button popped up half hour ago.
$175 & free delivery sometime in March 26.
Most I've paid for silver ounce bullion from the Mint.
At the moment silver is $80.61 oz.
Wonder where the silver ounce is trading when they ship it in 3 weeks ?
@grote15 said:
Will this issue still be a winner at about $175?
Yes. Not a home run, but yes. How many proof ASEs with a mintage of 60K can you buy today for less than $175, no matter what the Mint originally sold them for?
It is worth noting, however, that the number of collectors appears to be under 100,000 now based on sales of the regular proof coins. I'm not sure how many years it will take before we'll find that 60,000 will be the norm.
True. And, unfortunately, with the new pricing, that day will be coming sooner rather than later. Once upon a time, like maybe 10-15 years ago or so, they priced at a modest premium to modestly priced silver, and easily sold over 500K per year.
Rising silver prices naturally cut into that, but rising Mint premiums on top of rising spot prices greatly contributed to demand destruction. Far more than collector fatigue.
They still sold nearly 300K of the 2025 proof ASE, and only around 50K of that was accounted for between the beginning of December and today. So there was still robust collector demand for far more than 100K before the latest price increase.
60K will be a winner at $175 for the foreseeable future, although significantly less good than at $105. 100K would also be a winner, although a lot less of a slam dunk, given that the military privies were a double at $105 with that mintage.
It's the 2026 dual date that is a big question mark at $173 with a mintage of 500K, because I'm not sure that the value is there at that price, and at that premium to the current spot price.
You talked me into getting the 2026 Congratulations Philly issue.
Been checking in at Mint daily since you noted its lower 60k mintage desirability, then red button popped up half hour ago.
$175 & free delivery sometime in March 26.
Most I've paid for silver ounce bullion from the Mint.
At the moment silver is $80.61 oz.
Wonder where the silver ounce is trading when they ship it in 3 weeks ?
@grote15 said:
Will this issue still be a winner at about $175?
Yes. Not a home run, but yes. How many proof ASEs with a mintage of 60K can you buy today for less than $175, no matter what the Mint originally sold them for?
It is worth noting, however, that the number of collectors appears to be under 100,000 now based on sales of the regular proof coins. I'm not sure how many years it will take before we'll find that 60,000 will be the norm.
True. And, unfortunately, with the new pricing, that day will be coming sooner rather than later. Once upon a time, like maybe 10-15 years ago or so, they priced at a modest premium to modestly priced silver, and easily sold over 500K per year.
Rising silver prices naturally cut into that, but rising Mint premiums on top of rising spot prices greatly contributed to demand destruction. Far more than collector fatigue.
They still sold nearly 300K of the 2025 proof ASE, and only around 50K of that was accounted for between the beginning of December and today. So there was still robust collector demand for far more than 100K before the latest price increase.
60K will be a winner at $175 for the foreseeable future, although significantly less good than at $105. 100K would also be a winner, although a lot less of a slam dunk, given that the military privies were a double at $105 with that mintage.
It's the 2026 dual date that is a big question mark at $173 with a mintage of 500K, because I'm not sure that the value is there at that price, and at that premium to the current spot price.
I also noticed the subscription was available earlier today. I think I got in - it was in my cart and I submitted, but dont see it in my subscriptions yet. Not usually a fan of this set, but noticed it was the way to get a "P" mint proof.
Would rather not miss this 1 proof in my collection.
I also noticed the subscription was available earlier today. I think I got in - it was in my cart and I submitted, but dont see it in my subscriptions yet. Not usually a fan of this set, but noticed it was the way to get a "P" mint proof.
Would rather not miss this 1 proof in my collection.
Check your Subscriptions again,
I see it in my Subscriptions, and I just bought 30 minutes ago.
I also noticed the subscription was available earlier today. I think I got in - it was in my cart and I submitted, but dont see it in my subscriptions yet. Not usually a fan of this set, but noticed it was the way to get a "P" mint proof.
Would rather not miss this 1 proof in my collection.
Check your Subscriptions again,
I see it in my Subscriptions, and I just bought 30 minutes ago.
At 1st I was thinking it was rather sneaky of the mint to switch to the P mint mark for this congratulations set, to lure in the likes of me who are chasing every version of the proof ASE. I never bought this version before - was always the same "W" ASE proof to me.
But then it occurred to me, it might make it easier to send it in to be graded with the "congratulations set" designation, without having to send the whole unopened package? At least make it easier for those that care about the designation.
I ordered two more subscriptions this evening, one per account. The add box does show up periodically, although it is not currently available. Keep trying during the day at night if you want to subscribe.
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Would one think this is a time to purchase these coins ?
No
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Thanks for the post, I'm not always sure what the US Mint is going to do. The V75 Privy is a Type 1 proof Eagle and lowest minted Privy... Still selling strong I think..
This 2026 will be a type two eagle, so hard to tell in the long run, but flippers could do well short term maybe..
Yes. Whatever they are "clearing out" was manufactured at much lower prices, and has been sitting for quite a while.
As long as they are not selling at below what they can get by melting them, what they are doing makes perfect sense,when they alternative is repricing it and having it continue to sit unsold. Just don't expect to see them sell any 2026 numismatic product at anything close to a 20% premium to spot.
If you want them, yes. The Mint selling numismatic product at anything close to spot is a rare occurrence. Just don't buy expecting to make a killing, because, if the Mint can't sell it at a large premium, you won't be able to either.
Might you enlighten me why that is ? Just wondering . Lot's of folks think the price of silver is gonna skyrocket ?
If you want a bullion play, buy bullion. Why would you pay a premium to own them? U.S. Mint collector products are about the worst way to invest in bullion.
As for coins, anything that didn't sell out at the mint is only going to move with bullion and the premium will evaporate if the price goes up, so there is also no point in buying them as numismatic "investments".
If you want to own one or more, buy one. But, if you didn't already buy one, it's because you don't want one. The price didn't go down.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
I am in total agreement with NJ. When that happens, you best heed our advice. 😅
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
Where might one purchase physical silver , in hand ? NOT ON PAPER !
Actually right now, the random year BU silver eagle at a big dealer's site is around $100.15 (if buy 1-19 with credit card), more expensive then the mint Unc SE which is only $91.
I really don't wanna get off topic from the original thread ...... I have respect for my neighbor Halfdime
Yes. That's true. So if you want one, buy it. That doesn't make it a good future investment. I don't know any dealers buying at $100, so there is no arbitrage opportunity.
Upstate is buying at $83 and selling at $94. There's no reason to consider the Mint Eagles to be a bargain worth buying UNLESS YOU WANT TO OWN ONE.
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You're kidding, right? All the usual places, including the BST. It's not hard to buy physical silver. Go to any coin store, coin show, dealer website, Ebay, BST.
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The mint just priced this at $175
Which just took most of the juice out of it. Not a terrible deal with a 60K mintage, but it's not going to be a double at $175.
Will this issue still be a winner at about $175?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
If silver hits $200.
Although you can buy 2 ounces for $175 so...
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AWESOME !
Yes. Not a home run, but yes. How many proof ASEs with a mintage of 60K can you buy today for less than $175, no matter what the Mint originally sold them for?
It is worth noting, however, that the number of collectors appears to be under 100,000 now based on sales of the regular proof coins. I'm not sure how many years it will take before we'll find that 60,000 will be the norm.
All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.
True. And, unfortunately, with the new pricing, that day will be coming sooner rather than later. Once upon a time, like maybe 10-15 years ago or so, they priced at a modest premium to modestly priced silver, and easily sold over 500K per year.
Rising silver prices naturally cut into that, but rising Mint premiums on top of rising spot prices greatly contributed to demand destruction. Far more than collector fatigue.
They still sold nearly 300K of the 2025 proof ASE, and only around 50K of that was accounted for between the beginning of December and today. So there was still robust collector demand for far more than 100K before the latest price increase.
60K will be a winner at $175 for the foreseeable future, although significantly less good than at $105. 100K would also be a winner, although a lot less of a slam dunk, given that the military privies were a double at $105 with that mintage.
It's the 2026 dual date that is a big question mark at $173 with a mintage of 500K, because I'm not sure that the value is there at that price, and at that premium to the current spot price.
My subscription is for 1. I tried to adjust it to 2 but it gives me an error of "The household limit for this subscription has been exceeded."
So 1 it is.
The limit is one
Anyone cancelling their subscription due to the $175 price tag?
The sale is February 26th.
My subscription still shows 3 but I suspect they will process only 1.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
Just got a scrip in as they popped
Someone must have I was able to get one at 7:30. Now I have a month to decide if I want to cancel.
either someone cancelled or an extra 2 are coming available as mint is enforcing the HHL qty 1 when the HHL was once at qty 3.
They generally don't adjust quantity until the release.
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Sure would have been nice to pick these up at a more reasonable price and on the original schedule. The good ole mint instead having us bend over as we wait for the new release date.
These new prices that I looked at last night are higher than I could have anticipated. When I get in the buying/not buying window that the mint has, I will have no choice other than to decrease to 1or maybe 2 if I win the lotto.
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Wonder what the after-market demand will be for these considering the mint repricing.
He who knows he has enough is rich.
What's the market demand?
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Lukewarm. Subscriptions have been available again for a minute.
It's been a while since I stalked the mint website at 5:30AM local time (Since 2019 ERP). Do subscription availabilities update daily at that time or once per week? I never subscribed to this set in the past because it was the same as the other proofs. This year it appears to be the only way to get the P mint marked coin.
I know. That wasn't my point. My point was that I would judge it by the market not the after market. I wouldn't expect it to be hotter in the after market.
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Ha !
You talked me into getting the 2026 Congratulations Philly issue.
Been checking in at Mint daily since you noted its lower 60k mintage desirability, then red button popped up half hour ago.
$175 & free delivery sometime in March 26.
Most I've paid for silver ounce bullion from the Mint.
At the moment silver is $80.61 oz.
Wonder where the silver ounce is trading when they ship it in 3 weeks ?
Happy Shopping !
Lindy
I also noticed the subscription was available earlier today. I think I got in - it was in my cart and I submitted, but dont see it in my subscriptions yet. Not usually a fan of this set, but noticed it was the way to get a "P" mint proof.
Would rather not miss this 1 proof in my collection.
Red Button is live again...
740pm
I tried it again, this time I think it went thru ... further anyway. Got to payment.
I just snagged a $175 C.S. Sub.
ats: 4
edited to add:
ats: 0
Red button gone.
>
Check your Subscriptions again,
I see it in my Subscriptions, and I just bought 30 minutes ago.
Red button lit up once, or should I say twice more ?
;^)
10pm Mountain Time
Silver now $83.55
Posted ATS went from 9900 to 39,900 in the last couple of days.
In stock date is February 12.
Could the remaining balance be reserved for the big boys?
After 2nd try - its there now. I'm in.
Absolutely not. Subscriptions reduce the number
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At 1st I was thinking it was rather sneaky of the mint to switch to the P mint mark for this congratulations set, to lure in the likes of me who are chasing every version of the proof ASE. I never bought this version before - was always the same "W" ASE proof to me.
But then it occurred to me, it might make it easier to send it in to be graded with the "congratulations set" designation, without having to send the whole unopened package? At least make it easier for those that care about the designation.
Congratulations to everyone who got in a subscription!
I ordered two more subscriptions this evening, one per account. The add box does show up periodically, although it is not currently available. Keep trying during the day at night if you want to subscribe.
Sorry, but I don’t understand your answer.
Last week the posted ATS was 9,900 for the public. Was increased to 39,900 yesterday.
Also, today the “Authorized Bulk Program” page for this coin popped.
Price for them is 183.75 (the 5% markup). As of now that ATS is zero.
Could twenty thousand be reserved for “bulkers”? We will see.