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  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BLUEJAYWAY said:
    Luck is so bad considering a gambling SHUTDOWN.

    Admittedly, I'm not doing as well as last season. I try to gather some momentum and then get hit with yet another overtime loss in the Cavs game last night.

    I'm still slightly up this season, but the amount might not buy a happy meal.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's try another one with a nationwide wagering handle less than 100 dollars.

    6:00 game

    UMBC ML

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    one more

    -3245.33

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,890 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @bgr said:
    That just means that they’re not setting legitimate lines then. Right?

    It just means that for the most part the NFL is playing out as the betting markets have predicted. The lines certainly would affect the size of the sportsbooks' losses, but not the fact that the NFL favorites have been consistently causing the books to lose money for going on 3 years. If you're betting favorites and the favorites win, you're getting paid no matter what the line is. They can adjust the lines to try to get more money to come in on one side, but most people still go with the favorites even then, perhaps even more, when the line goes from -600 to -900.

    I'm talking moneyline favorites only.

    I know a lot of people look at one of the big favorites going down in particular week and think, oh, there you go, that's the moneymaker game for the books. Of course they rigged that one...

    But it's not that big of a deal in the whole scheme of things when you're passively betting all of the favorites in 3 leg parlays. I'd rather lose a game with a big favorite in my grids than one that was only -120.

    It's actually those -115 "barely favorites" consistently winning that's killing the books.

    Try it yourself. Put together a 3 leg parlay of the biggest favorites that week. It pays what, -150? Then put a 3 leg parlay of 3 favorites at -115 to -130. Pays like +450. Which games do you think the books really want you to lose?

    I mentioned it at the beginning of the year. I know that I mentioned it last year, too. I likely mentioned it the year before. The NFL favorites have for some time been winning at a rate that is a license to print money. You can say it's just luck, or an aberration, that the universe will shift and revert to the mean, and probably all of those things are true, but the fact is, with the results occurring as they have, you would have made a crap-ton of money just passively betting the favorites in a plethora of 3 leg parlays for the last 3 seasons. Flood the zone. Round Robin, even, if that's you're thing. Bet it up and bet it often.

    It also doesn't hurt that I found this laying around a few years ago.
    .

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Am I mistaken or is Galaxy hot?

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 12, 2025 12:12AM

    @stevek said:

    Am I mistaken or is Galaxy hot?

    it's cyclical my friend.........only a matter of time before i start swinging at pitches in the dirt again 🤓

    it's a very rare occurrence when a line gives me extreme pause, but that exact scenario happened last night with the Florida-Florida St game. without knowing a single thing about either one of those teams, i couldn't understand why an in-state rivalry game between two big schools had a spread that sizable (FSU was getting 19). that led me to investigate. i found nothing that warranted such a huge number, so i took the Noles & the points, and i tacked on a few more. sure enough, that game was decided in the final 30 seconds.

    and then we have the OKC Thunder, as sure a thing as you'll ever find. well, they did lose one game, but even in the midst of that one anomaly they were up by 22 points at one stage. outside of that outlier, they've won every game they've played. i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but even i know it's probably a good idea to park money on a team that rarely, if ever, loses. i'm betting on them every game they play until they eat another L burger, and only then will i slow down and give it some thought. they play the Lakers at home tonight. perhaps that will be loss #2, but that's a risk i'm definitely willing to take.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:

    @stevek said:

    Am I mistaken or is Galaxy hot?

    it's cyclical my friend.........only a matter of time before i start swinging at pitches in the dirt again 🤓

    it's a very rare occurrence when a line gives me extreme pause, but that exact scenario happened last night with the Florida-Florida St game. without knowing a single thing about either one of those teams, i couldn't understand why an in-state rivalry game between two big schools had a spread that sizable (FSU was getting 19). that led me to investigate. i found nothing that warranted such a huge number, so i took the Noles & the points, and i tacked on a few more. sure enough, that game was decided in the final 30 seconds.

    and then we have the OKC Thunder, as sure a thing as you'll ever find. well, they did lose one game, but even in the midst of that one anomaly they were up by 22 points at one stage. outside of that outlier, they've won every game they've played. i'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but even i know it's probably a good idea to park money on a team that rarely, if ever, loses. i'm betting on them every game they play until they eat another L burger, and only then will i slow down and give it some thought. they play the Lakers at home tonight. perhaps that will be loss #2, but that's a risk i'm definitely willing to take.

    Some excellent handicapping principles in your post. I particularly like the one about the in-state rivalry. In the olden days when bookies manually set the lines, this angle wouldn't get past any bookie, and the line would be adjusted accordingly. However in this computer era, I doubt if the computer would pick-up on that.

    The Lakers of course are still without LeBron. If they play "perfect" basketball, they could beat OKC tonight. The problem for them is OKC, at least at this point, seems very motivated to win another ring.

    The Lakers playing perfect basketball against a very motivated, highly talented team, and winning the game? Anything can happen as we know. But that's a tough way to try to make money betting on it. My two cents opinion is either play OKC or pass on the game.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    -3117.78

  • bgrbgr Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:

    @bgr said:
    That just means that they’re not setting legitimate lines then. Right?

    It just means that for the most part the NFL is playing out as the betting markets have predicted. The lines certainly would affect the size of the sportsbooks' losses, but not the fact that the NFL favorites have been consistently causing the books to lose money for going on 3 years. If you're betting favorites and the favorites win, you're getting paid no matter what the line is. They can adjust the lines to try to get more money to come in on one side, but most people still go with the favorites even then, perhaps even more, when the line goes from -600 to -900.

    I'm talking moneyline favorites only.

    I know a lot of people look at one of the big favorites going down in particular week and think, oh, there you go, that's the moneymaker game for the books. Of course they rigged that one...

    But it's not that big of a deal in the whole scheme of things when you're passively betting all of the favorites in 3 leg parlays. I'd rather lose a game with a big favorite in my grids than one that was only -120.

    It's actually those -115 "barely favorites" consistently winning that's killing the books.

    Try it yourself. Put together a 3 leg parlay of the biggest favorites that week. It pays what, -150? Then put a 3 leg parlay of 3 favorites at -115 to -130. Pays like +450. Which games do you think the books really want you to lose?

    I mentioned it at the beginning of the year. I know that I mentioned it last year, too. I likely mentioned it the year before. The NFL favorites have for some time been winning at a rate that is a license to print money. You can say it's just luck, or an aberration, that the universe will shift and revert to the mean, and probably all of those things are true, but the fact is, with the results occurring as they have, you would have made a crap-ton of money just passively betting the favorites in a plethora of 3 leg parlays for the last 3 seasons. Flood the zone. Round Robin, even, if that's you're thing. Bet it up and bet it often.

    I thought I knew, or perhaps I had just assumed... that the sports books make money no matter what. They balance the bets by setting the lines and the width of the line is the house's money which they split into profit and operations - their margin. So like are they losing money because they're spending on growth or are they losing money on the sports betting itself? If they make more or less based on who wins or loses, I was thinking that must mean the book is playing one side of the bet themselves.

    It also doesn't hurt that I found this laying around a few years ago.
    .

    Love it.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Virginia Tech ML

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Bulls ML
    Parlay - Bulls ML, Buzelis +10.5, Dosunmu +9.5

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2025 3:42AM

    i know what some of you will be thinking when you see the curious wager below.

    "i wonder what illegal substance galaxy is snorting at 5 am?"

    here me out.

    first off, i don't expect this parlay to lose. if it does, it'll be either one of the biggest upsets in the NFL or NCAA the entire season. that can and does happen all the time, so if i get caught by a stray bullet, i'll regroup. i'm not afraid to gamble.

    also, i want to reiterate that my book has a VIP rewards program, whereby you move glacially toward the next level with every dollar you wager. so in addition to trying to make a buck, i'm also trying to reach Diamond II where a nice little bonus awaits me.

    but it takes forever. even though i've been unloading on games and playing live blackjack like a madman, it feels like i could hop on Voyager 1 and reach the outer edge of the Oort cloud before i get to 💎 II. currently, i'm at 20.7%. not fast enough, so i'm probably going to start playing with fire until i get burned.

    the Thunder held up their end of the bargain last night like they almost always do, and now i need the Pats. but i also needed more money on this game tonight, so i lumped in the 🦆 in the separate (and undisciplined) bet below.

    -3117.78

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2025 4:13AM

    @galaxy27 said:
    i know what some of you will be thinking when you see the curious wager below.

    "i wonder what illegal substance galaxy is snorting at 5 am?"

    here me out.

    first off, i don't expect this parlay to lose. if it does, it'll be either one of the biggest upsets in the NFL or NCAA the entire season. that can and does happen all the time, so if i get caught by a stray bullet, i'll regroup. i'm not afraid to gamble.

    also, i want to reiterate that my book has a VIP rewards program, whereby you move glacially toward the next level with every dollar you wager. so in addition to trying to make a buck, i'm also trying to reach Diamond II where a nice little bonus awaits me.

    but it takes forever. even though i've been unloading on games and playing live blackjack like a madman, it feels like i could hop on Voyager 1 and reach the outer edge of the Oort cloud before i get to 💎 II. currently, i'm at 20.7%. not fast enough, so i'm probably going to start playing with fire until i get burned.

    the Thunder held up their end of the bargain last night like they almost always do, and now i need the Pats. but i also needed more money on this game tonight, so i lumped in the 🦆 in the separate (and undisciplined) bet below.

    -3117.78

    I totally understand this bet

    I reached Silver in my Draft Kings app, to get Gold it would take probably another 20k to water which I don't have the stomach for lol

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just looked at the Oregon game. That Oregon ML is a lock, no need to worry about that one.

    The Patriots-Jets game potentially could be an "On any given Sunday" type game. In this case substitute Thursday for Sunday. The Patriots have become a good football team. Hopefully Vrabel can keep his players motivated enough for this game. Instill in them that yes it's the lowly Jets, but you're not good enough yet to take them for granted as an easy win. If the Patriots players get lackadaisical, the Jets could sneak up on them. I like Vrabel, I'd be surprised if he allows that to happen.

    Looking forward to one day seeing you post a memo copy from BD saying "Welcome to the Diamond Club"

    BTW - I'm not going to get into a further discussion on this here. It's a sports forum. Suffice to say that so-called "live" blackjack can be rigged. That is a fact. Whether or not BD has it rigged, well, I'll just say in my opinion you're better off focusing on the sports.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    i know what some of you will be thinking when you see the curious wager below.

    "i wonder what illegal substance galaxy is snorting at 5 am?"

    here me out.

    first off, i don't expect this parlay to lose. if it does, it'll be either one of the biggest upsets in the NFL or NCAA the entire season. that can and does happen all the time, so if i get caught by a stray bullet, i'll regroup. i'm not afraid to gamble.

    also, i want to reiterate that my book has a VIP rewards program, whereby you move glacially toward the next level with every dollar you wager. so in addition to trying to make a buck, i'm also trying to reach Diamond II where a nice little bonus awaits me.

    but it takes forever. even though i've been unloading on games and playing live blackjack like a madman, it feels like i could hop on Voyager 1 and reach the outer edge of the Oort cloud before i get to 💎 II. currently, i'm at 20.7%. not fast enough, so i'm probably going to start playing with fire until i get burned.

    the Thunder held up their end of the bargain last night like they almost always do, and now i need the Pats. but i also needed more money on this game tonight, so i lumped in the 🦆 in the separate (and undisciplined) bet below.

    -3117.78

    I totally understand this bet

    I reached Silver in my Draft Kings app, to get Gold it would take probably another 20k to water which I don't have the stomach for lol

    Briefly, if you care to expound on it, no problem if you don't. What are say one or two main benefits to the gold versus the silver? Thanks.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    BTW - I'm not going to get into a further discussion on this here. It's a sports forum. Suffice to say that so-called "live" blackjack can be rigged. That is a fact. Whether or not BD has it rigged, well, I'll just say in my opinion you're better off focusing on the sports.

    i feel you. trust me, that thought never escapes me. but i've been with BO (not BD) for a long time and they are, from my perspective, very reputable. last year they made a 750$ error in my favor and when i brought it to their attention, i was told to keep it. talk about shocking. it was at that point i knew they were a different breed. plus, i very rarely play anything more than 10$ hands.

    i will say there was ONE time a year or so ago (probably right after that 750$ gift) when i got a wild hair and played a 1k blackjack hand. i'll never forget this. i had 17 and the dealer was showing an ace. talk about being dead. i kissed that grand goodbye. even if a 7, 8, 9, 10 or face card didn't appear, the dealer was drawing to sink my 17. i think i lose 3 out of 4 times in a situation like that. but, i didn't. dealer busted, much to my extreme surprise. if things were not on the up and up, taking that 1k from me would have been easier than taking candy from a baby.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2025 4:34AM

    @stevek said:

    The Patriots-Jets game potentially could be an "On any given Sunday" type game. In this case substitute Thursday for Sunday. The Patriots have become a good football team. Hopefully Vrabel can keep his players motivated enough for this game. Instill in them that yes it's the lowly Jets, but you're not good enough yet to take them for granted as an easy win. If the Patriots players get lackadaisical, the Jets could sneak up on them. I like Vrabel, I'd be surprised if he allows that to happen.

    no question about it. look no further than the Bills. oh really? you're going to take out the Chiefs, then turn around and get blown out of the water by the Dolphins?

    like i said, it can and does happen. i just hope it can and doesn't happen tonight. 👻

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,476 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    @galaxy27 said:
    i know what some of you will be thinking when you see the curious wager below.

    "i wonder what illegal substance galaxy is snorting at 5 am?"

    here me out.

    first off, i don't expect this parlay to lose. if it does, it'll be either one of the biggest upsets in the NFL or NCAA the entire season. that can and does happen all the time, so if i get caught by a stray bullet, i'll regroup. i'm not afraid to gamble.

    also, i want to reiterate that my book has a VIP rewards program, whereby you move glacially toward the next level with every dollar you wager. so in addition to trying to make a buck, i'm also trying to reach Diamond II where a nice little bonus awaits me.

    but it takes forever. even though i've been unloading on games and playing live blackjack like a madman, it feels like i could hop on Voyager 1 and reach the outer edge of the Oort cloud before i get to 💎 II. currently, i'm at 20.7%. not fast enough, so i'm probably going to start playing with fire until i get burned.

    the Thunder held up their end of the bargain last night like they almost always do, and now i need the Pats. but i also needed more money on this game tonight, so i lumped in the 🦆 in the separate (and undisciplined) bet below.

    -3117.78

    I totally understand this bet

    I reached Silver in my Draft Kings app, to get Gold it would take probably another 20k to water which I don't have the stomach for lol

    Briefly, if you care to expound on it, no problem if you don't. What are say one or two main benefits to the gold versus the silver? Thanks.

    Larger profit boosts, more free play or "Crowns" which equal $$ to bet with.

    As it is for Silver I get max $250 profit boosts which is high enough for my wagering, since rarely I ever bet over a $100

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2025 4:51AM

    Regarding tonight's game I 100% agree with @stevek only because it makes too much sense that the Pats will win, short week and Thursday night.

    I believe the Pats will win but one thing for certain is I would not under any circumstances employ a point spread, Vrabel has proved he would rather go for it on 4th down rather than take an easy FG which is great until it isn't, it will eventually screw him like Dan Campbell screwed himself and his team out of a Super Bowl appearance a couple years ago against SF when he refused to kick FG's

    Another thing that I'm still. annoyed by is Vrabel ordering Maye to snap the ball and drop. to. the ground when on the opponents 1 yard line, and my opinion of Maye when he was screaming at Henderson to not score the other day on that long run is pretty foul to the point that I would get banned if I called him what I want to call him over that play.

    The Pats got a good thing going but I'm worried they will outthink and out coach themselves into snapping defeat out of the jaws of victory sooner rather than later

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:

    @stevek said:

    BTW - I'm not going to get into a further discussion on this here. It's a sports forum. Suffice to say that so-called "live" blackjack can be rigged. That is a fact. Whether or not BD has it rigged, well, I'll just say in my opinion you're better off focusing on the sports.

    i feel you. trust me, that thought never escapes me. but i've been with BO (not BD) for a long time and they are, from my perspective, very reputable. last year they made a 750$ error in my favor and when i brought it to their attention, i was told to keep it. talk about shocking. it was at that point i knew they were a different breed. plus, i very rarely play anything more than 10$ hands.

    i will say there was ONE time a year or so ago (probably right after that 750$ gift) when i got a wild hair and played a 1k blackjack hand. i'll never forget this. i had 17 and the dealer was showing an ace. talk about being dead. i kissed that grand goodbye. even if a 7, 8, 9, 10 or face card didn't appear, the dealer was drawing to sink my 17. i think i lose 3 out of 4 times in a situation like that. but, i didn't. dealer busted, much to my extreme surprise. if things were not on the up and up, taking that 1k from me would have been easier than taking candy from a baby.

    That is a good example of trustworthiness. Perhaps Bovada is an exception. However I have read countless stories about how offshore websites have ripped off their customers in various ways.

    I just checked out BO on the Trustpilot website. The usual complaints from gamblers was expected. I looked at some of the recent complaints, and was astonished that BO personally responded to every single one of them. I have never seen that before from any other website on Trustpilot.

    That's all well and good. But I still wouldn't fully trust any offshore gambling website. I'm not going to expound further as to why. Suffice to say, in some way, shape, or form, depending on the customer's wagering activity, etc, they simply aren't going to let a customer win money in the long run. Except for sports betting whereby they have no control over the sporting event results.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek

    BetOnline is who i make donations to

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This Patriots-Jets game in my view, is what makes today's era of sports betting so interesting. It's tough to envision the Pats losing this game. But as Perk alluded to, the key is the point spread. I mean I think the Pats could win this game by anywhere from 4 points to maybe 30 points. Depending of course on various fumbles, picks, etc, with the two teams. So the question is do ya maximize profit on the Pats by betting the spread, or be on the safe side by betting the moneyline?

    We've all had those games whereby we played the ML on a favorite, and it wins, goes past the spread by many points, and then ponder the extra profit we could have made. However we shouldn't forget those games when our ML favorite eked out a win, and we cashed. Rather we made a profit from the ML, and didn't lose our original capital.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:
    @stevek

    BetOnline is who i make donations to

    I've heard of them from their ads, but not familiar with them.

    I wonder if Polymarket which I've read is coming soon to be legally offered to American customers, which is an America owned prediction market website, will take a lot of business away from these offshore websites? Especially those with customers from Texas and other states.

    I've also read that DK, Robinhood, and some others are going to get involved in the prediction market, which technically is now legal in all states, until a specific state law would ban it. I guess right now there is some distinction between a gambling bet and a prediction bet regarding a sports event? LOL

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,476 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd love to own Draft Kings

  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    I'd love to own Draft Kings

    You can. Its stock is publicly traded, symbol DKNG. It's selling now for around $30 a share.

    But I think you implied from your comment that you'd love to own all of it. LOL

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,476 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2025 11:20AM

    @stevek said:

    @perkdog said:

    I'd love to own Draft Kings

    You can. Its stock is publicly traded, symbol DKNG. It's selling now for around $30 a share.

    But I think you implied from your comment that you'd love to own all of it. LOL

    Yes I know I can buy DK stock, I want to be the owner lol

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    just had a random thought

    i found a quarter on the ground yesterday

    if the Browns were community-owned a la the Packers, i wonder how many shares that would get me

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2025 12:34PM

    this week's 10-team crack party

    look at some of these lines lol

    where would the state of your program be if you were given 7 touchdowns, a field goal and the hook prior to opening kick......and still not be able to cover?

    Ohio St 91, UCLA 2

    -3117.78


  • stevekstevek Posts: 30,927 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps with most of the great inventors throughout history, the general public thought it was a form of madness attempting their various pursuits. I mean Benjamin Franklin tying a metal key to a kite? Folks must have walked by and thought was the yell is Ben doing?

    I can envision centuries from now, a young child opening up a book about the world's greatest inventors. The child asking the father, Who is this Galaxy? The father immediately replies, Oh he's the one who invented the profitable ten team, 3 touchdown parlay.

  • bgrbgr Posts: 3,336 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I remember that story. He tied the string to the Liberty Bell and when lightning struck it caused a crack. The next day when masons were inspecting the damage Ben had caused the sun shone through the crack revealing a tuft of horse hair protruding from between two floor boards. When they jostled the piece it came free and beneath it... there was a leather bound set of papers. They were signed "That never happened bruh"..

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