Looks like Penn State is testing the Hoosiers, now trailing 20-17 in the 4th quarter. If the Nittany Lions can score to tie or go ahead it might be panic time for Indiana.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@perkdog said: Indiana down 24-20
Can they drive and score a TD???
This last 5-6 minutes will be the test of their season!! If they don't pull it out there will be a logjam behind current 1st place Ohio State with that Michigan game looming ahead. November, the absolute best time for College Football when the weather gets chilly and the races get tight.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said: @perkdog said: Indiana down 24-20
Can they drive and score a TD???
This last 5-6 minutes will be the test of their season!! If they don't pull it out there will be a logjam behind current 1st place Ohio State with that Michigan game looming ahead. November, the absolute best time for College Football when the weather gets chilly and the races get tight.
It's going to be a huge letdown if they lose, I really wanted a tilt between them and OSU with both being undefeated
Just saw highlights of the Nick Singleton 60 yard run, he got a good block that official in the center of the field!! Interesting that the "blocked" player caught him inside the 5.
Is Gus Johnson the best announcer in all of sports or what??!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said:
Just saw highlights of the Nick Singleton 60 yard run, he got a good block that official in the center of the field!! Interesting that the "blocked" player caught him inside the 5.
Is Gus Johnson the best announcer in all of sports or what??!!
He's like the poster boy for that saying "When you find something you like to do you never have to work another day in your life." When he's announcing the excitement in his voice is great to hear, he sounds like a true fan who just happens to be in the booth.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Thinking about the Indiana game makes me wonder what Penn State would have been like if Allar hadn't gotten injured and they had stuck with Franklin. It's hard to figure out how things collapsed like they did when they were so close to playing in the Championship Game last season.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Getting rid of Franklin and Allar not being the QB (sad it was from injury) made them better. They still messed up the game and have QBs on the roster that look good on combine measurements but really arent that good but are an improvement as low of a bar as that is.
Some NFL team probably does something really stupid with Allar from combine stats like the Colts did with Richardson but he wasnt very good
i don't think it would be hyperbolic to say that that was one of the best catches in the history of college football
not only the sublime vertical, extreme body control and footwork that a ballerina would be envious of, but also what the catch meant for that particular school in an unblemished season
i think i've watched it 10 times
and of course the icing was having Gus Johnson on the call, a commentator who -- let's face it -- has no equal
dude got so excited it sounded like he was speaking in tongues
Honestly that catch is getting over hyped. Its not even the most difficult catch of the day that has happened. And not to mention all the full extension one handed catches in history.
It was exciting and the PSU DB should have actually shoved him while he was in the air and put some effort into it. The win doesnt really change much for Indiana. Theyre going to drop a spot or two and even if they lost theyre still going to make the B!G championship against OSU and be in the playoffs. If they cant win out against Wisconsin and Perdue they dont deserve to be in the playoffs
Honestly that catch is getting over hyped. Its not even the most difficult catch of the day that has happened. And not to mention all the full extension one handed catches in history.
Now it's Oregon's turn for some late game heroics to pull out a victory. That game is hard to figure out, the Ducks known for passing have more than 250 yards on the ground and less than 100 through the air. How did this turn into a defensive battle where both teams ran the ball??
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Honestly that catch is getting over hyped. Its not even the most difficult catch of the day that has happened. And not to mention all the full extension one handed catches in history.
You could look at Texas last week or Auburn with Coleman today which no wasnt game winning. But wouldnt matter anyways. It was a nice play but lets calm down with the best catch in history stuff and wasnt the most difficult catch of even the day
Coleman just made another one handed catch tipping it to himself for a TD and now a 3rd one handed catch for a 2 pt conversion. All the catches were significantly harder
@Basebal21 said:
Lol DJ Moore 100 passing yards and a INT in the endzone early in the game. Oregon won from a safety. Oregon is not a top 10 team with Moore at QB
Did you not watch the game? It poured rain almost the entire game. Moore won the game with A perfect pass that set his team up for the winning FG.
Honestly that catch is getting over hyped. Its not even the most difficult catch of the day that has happened. And not to mention all the full extension one handed catches in history.
You could look at Texas last week or Auburn with Coleman today which no wasnt game winning. But wouldnt matter anyways. It was a nice play but lets calm down with the best catch in history stuff and wasnt the most difficult catch of even the day
Coleman just made another one handed catch tipping it to himself for a TD and now a 3rd one handed catch for a 2 pt conversion. All the catches were significantly harder
Were those catches in the last seconds of the game where there's a ton a pressure?
It was a nice play but lets calm down with the best catch in history stuff and wasnt the most difficult catch of even the day
lol a nice play
with the outcome on the line he almost reached the level of the crossbar and snagged the game-winner with a guy draped on him. then while in midair he had the wherewithal to look at the ground and get not one, but two feet in by a matter of inches
i'm going to pour myself a glass of bourbon in your honor while i await these better catches you speak of
@bgr said:
I think OSU has done what they needed to do. It's too bad much of the B1G sucks this year so they had little opportunity to fill out their resume.
The BIG Ten dont suck. I think they are the best conference and have proved it on the field the last few years. Other than MSU, Wisky, and Purdue, the league is stacked with solid teams. Every year they have some teams with losing records. But to have seven teams ranked and say they suck is just not right.
I didn’t say that the B1G sucks. You might be too sensitive about college football.
''much of the BIG TEN sucks''
Your words.
Yeah. Much of it. Sub par this season.
State. Wisconsin. Purdue. Rutgers. Northwestern. Maryland, Jerry Sandusky School of Love, Nebraska, UCLA. My point was that OSU has not had ample opportunities to show off against ranked opponents because the B1G is having a down year. You got eyes.
Probably half of those teams will be bowl eligible. As for Penn State, 4 out of their 5 losses were very close. Two were one point losses, and they were competitive with OSU for a half. You cant expect every team in a conference to be 7-2 or better. Not gonna happen.
OSU will play 2 games against ranked B1G teams this year.
Lets wait and see the final rankings at the end of the year. I bet it will be more than 2. Indiana, Michigan, Illinois, and Washington could be ranked in the final polls.
I stand corrected. I actually didn't count Indiana there. 3. I don't have faith in Illinois so I'll be surprised if that's the case. Whether it's 2 or 3 or 4, I cannot tell from who OSU's played how good they are. So for all of the strength of record advocacy that's a bit hypocritical. I'm the one who's saying it's right how it is and here's why.
Honestly that catch is getting over hyped. Its not even the most difficult catch of the day that has happened. And not to mention all the full extension one handed catches in history.
You could look at Texas last week or Auburn with Coleman today which no wasnt game winning. But wouldnt matter anyways. It was a nice play but lets calm down with the best catch in history stuff and wasnt the most difficult catch of even the day
Coleman just made another one handed catch tipping it to himself for a TD and now a 3rd one handed catch for a 2 pt conversion. All the catches were significantly harder
Were those catches in the last seconds of the game where there's a ton a pressure?
Texas yes. Would have ended their playoff hopes if he didnt finger tip it in the endzone
@Basebal21 said:
Lol DJ Moore 100 passing yards and a INT in the endzone early in the game. Oregon won from a safety. Oregon is not a top 10 team with Moore at QB
Did you not watch the game? It poured rain almost the entire game. Moore won the game with A perfect pass that set his team up for the winning FG.
Weather impacts both teams the same when it comes to rain. Moore ios alright he just isnt that good considering his team being so much better almost every week
I did and the CFP might be different but the AP and Coaches have Indiana ahead.
I don’t know why you’re coming at me. I live in a world where I think the most likely scenario is that the CFP is going to look at A&M’s win over ranked Missouri and Indiana struggling at PSU and they flip em.
I don’t really care though so if you’re sure then I’m with you and your crystal ball. I do think A&M is better than Indiana though.
I did and the CFP might be different but the AP and Coaches have Indiana ahead.
I don’t know why you’re coming at me. I live in a world where I think the most likely scenario is that the CFP is going to look at A&M’s win over ranked Missouri and Indiana struggling at PSU and they flip em.
I don’t really care though so if you’re sure then I’m with you and your crystal ball. I do think A&M is better than Indiana though.
The only reason Texas a@m is undefeated is because they haven't played Georgia or Alabama. They only beat a bad Arkansas team by a field goal. I think Indiana is better. Their defense is currently rated at #5, and their offense is #6.
I'm not and all I posted was a simple answer to your snarly one-word "Watch" reply. Like I said, the CFP might be different so in part I agree with you. Aside from that, haven't we been through all this before via PM?? If you keep wanting to play cutesy you might be rubbed the wrong way with some of my replies just like that Basebal player. In the immortal words from a coin forum's tagline, I don't tolerate fools kindly.
I'll let @coolstanley analyze the Strength of Schedule BS line because it tires me out, suffice as to say that as long the "Poll Voters" insist on ranking SEC teams higher than they should be and the Big 10 teams lower than they should be that things are gonna look like a fantasy. As the past few seasons have pointed out via the Playoff system and the entire Bowl Game scenario, the SEC is weaker than everyone thinks and the Big 10 is stronger than everyone thinks
Neither of us can deny that truth, but we're willing to believe the Poll concocted fantasy as we wish.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said: @bgs said: I don’t know why you’re coming at me.
I'm not and all I posted was a simple answer to your snarly one-word "Watch" reply. Like I said, the CFP might be different so in part I agree with you. Aside from that, haven't we been through all this before via PM?? If you keep wanting to play cutesy you might be rubbed the wrong way with some of my replies just like that Basebal player. In the immortal words from a coin forum's tagline, I don't tolerate fools kindly.
Me: A&M is better than Indiana right now. I think they will end up in 2.
Stan: Bologna
Me: Watch
Now we wait until 7PM ET on Tuesday.
I get that, in the interim, you guys want to tell me how stupid I am and how smart you are. Enjoy it. I get that if the CFP does rank them 2 you'll come and insult me further and cry about the SEC. I get that if the CFP doesn't you'll be back to insult and ridicule how stupid I am for thinking they would. This is the way.
I have no comment for now on your private messages other than - these messages to me are not welcome or necessary.
I'll let @coolstanley analyze the Strength of Schedule BS line because it tires me out, suffice as to say that as long the "Poll Voters" insist on ranking SEC teams higher than they should be and the Big 10 teams lower than they should be that things are gonna look like a fantasy. As the past few seasons have pointed out via the Playoff system and the entire Bowl Game scenario, the SEC is weaker than everyone thinks and the Big 10 is stronger than everyone thinks
You keep calling every opinion you don't like "Strength of Schedule BS" but it doesn't appear that you understand it at all. Have you looked at the Strength of Record standings? Do you want to take a stab at explaining how you think this works and then others can help you understand it more correctly?
SOR
1 A&M
2 Indiana
3 OSU
4 Alabama
5 Georgia
SOS
1 Gators
2 Badgers
3 LSU
4 The Original (this one is just for BB21) USC
5 Auburn
I am not a strength of schedule proponent for rankings during the season. At the start of the season, it's least valid, but also most necessary. It's like asking what the weather is going to be like next month. I have a fair idea, but things change. I think the CFP committee does a solid job. Their hands are tied a bit in some areas. It's a business after all.
Neither of us can deny that truth, but we're willing to believe the Poll concocted fantasy as we wish.
@bgs said: I get that, in the interim, you guys want to tell me how stupid I am and how smart you are. Enjoy it. I get that if the CFP does rank them 2 you'll come and insult me further and cry about the SEC. I get that if the CFP doesn't you'll be back to insult and ridicule how stupid I am for thinking they would. This is the way.
Now you're talking like a baby because we haven't been doing that, at least I haven't.
The thing about the schedule and record strength is that it's all based on biased Polling. I explained myself above and throughout the whole thread. If you want to listen to the pundits tell you who's strong and who has a really good record based on their Poll voting you can do that, I just don't believe they really know what they're talking about. Consider everything those "experts" thought about Texas, Clemson and LSU 3 months ago. Why would you think they still have an opinion that matters. I've also been pretty clear about the CFP, their main interest isn't in deciding which team is best, it's more directed toward manipulating which teams will play each other in the playoff to get the best game for the Championship. It's not a conspiracy, it's just the NCAA taking care of itself for monetary reasons. I think I posted several pages back who I thought would be in the Top 12 or 10 when there was still 6-7 weeks left in the season.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@Maywood said: @bgs said: I get that, in the interim, you guys want to tell me how stupid I am and how smart you are. Enjoy it. I get that if the CFP does rank them 2 you'll come and insult me further and cry about the SEC. I get that if the CFP doesn't you'll be back to insult and ridicule how stupid I am for thinking they would. This is the way.
Now you're talking like a baby because we haven't been doing that, at least I haven't.
Believe what you want. I don't want you to feel like you need to change how you interact or that I care about how you interact. I don't need to like you to be able to find value in some of the things you post here. You present a pattern as I see it.
The thing about the schedule and record strength is that it's all based on biased Polling. I explained myself above and throughout the whole thread. If you want to listen to the pundits tell you who's strong and who has a really good record based on their Poll voting you can do that, I just don't believe they really know what they're talking about. Consider everything those "experts" thought about Texas, Clemson and LSU 3 months ago. Why would you think they still have an opinion that matters. I've also been pretty clear about the CFP, their main interest isn't in deciding which team is best, it's more directed toward manipulating which teams will play each other in the playoff to get the best game for the Championship. It's not a conspiracy, it's just the NCAA taking care of itself for monetary reasons. I think I posted several pages back who I thought would be in the Top 12 or 10 when there was still 6-7 weeks left in the season.
The thing about the schedule and record strength is that it's all based on biased Polling.
This isn't true. Strength of Schedule is a simple linear regression based on average winning percentage. If you believe it's biased just explain how.
I explained myself above and throughout the whole thread.
What a classic. The 'I have already explained it' is usually followed by 'If you can't understand it...'. I am proud of you for taking a stand and wanting to be correct. Now you need to put in the work!
If you want to listen to the pundits tell you who's strong and who has a really good record based on their Poll voting you can do that, I just don't believe they really know what they're talking about.
Both SOS and SOR are based on statistical averages. These are not biased by polling, voting, or expert opinion.
**Consider everything those "experts" thought about Texas, Clemson and LSU 3 months ago. Why would you think they still have an opinion that matters. **
I'm not saying that anyone's opinion matters arbitrarily here. If you want me to offer an opinion on any particular opinion as to why it may matter I would need to know which one you want me to consider. This is just noise to distract from the fact that you are asserting things that you have not even tried to understand.
**I've also been pretty clear about the CFP, their main interest isn't in deciding which team is best, it's more directed toward manipulating which teams will play each other in the playoff to get the best game for the Championship. **
I would guess that the primary objective is engagement, which drives money. While there is going to be some "gamesmanship" here, because end of the day it's about making money... quality is a big part of that is what the product is. So you're going to have the 8 best teams in the CFP but you're not going to have the 12 best teams. I'll take this over what the B1G wants to do, which is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not a fan of the SEC either, but the 16 team flop makes more sense to me.
It's not a conspiracy, it's just the NCAA taking care of itself for monetary reasons.
You've figured it out. A primary objective of a business is to make money. Here's your diploma.
I think I posted several pages back who I thought would be in the Top 12 or 10 when there was still 6-7 weeks left in the season.
I apologize, but I don't know whether this is significant because I did not really look closely at what your predictions were. Did you get them all correct or something? I think more than 8 starts to raise an eyebrow, so if you got like 10 right before the season started... good job!
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Blah, blah, blah......................
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Maybe you just like the drama. Dude makes good points there.
OSU just realized the game had started.
Blah, blah, blah.......................
In a weird name twist where Georgia is playing Mississippi State the Bulldogs are leading the Bulldogs 38-14.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Looks like Penn State is testing the Hoosiers, now trailing 20-17 in the 4th quarter. If the Nittany Lions can score to tie or go ahead it might be panic time for Indiana.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Indiana down 24-20
Can they drive and score a TD???
@perkdog said: Indiana down 24-20
Can they drive and score a TD???
This last 5-6 minutes will be the test of their season!! If they don't pull it out there will be a logjam behind current 1st place Ohio State with that Michigan game looming ahead. November, the absolute best time for College Football when the weather gets chilly and the races get tight.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
It's going to be a huge letdown if they lose, I really wanted a tilt between them and OSU with both being undefeated
Unless Texas Tech has a historic meltdown, BYU is proving their schedule played a significant role in their record.
Fire AJ Preller
Just saw highlights of the Nick Singleton 60 yard run, he got a good block that official in the center of the field!! Interesting that the "blocked" player caught him inside the 5.
Is Gus Johnson the best announcer in all of sports or what??!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Indiana TD!!!
Looks like Mendoza saved the Hoosiers!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Gus Johnson is my favorite lol
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One of the best Gus Johnson moments ever lol
@perkdog said: Gus Johnson is my favorite lol
He's like the poster boy for that saying "When you find something you like to do you never have to work another day in your life." When he's announcing the excitement in his voice is great to hear, he sounds like a true fan who just happens to be in the booth.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Thinking about the Indiana game makes me wonder what Penn State would have been like if Allar hadn't gotten injured and they had stuck with Franklin. It's hard to figure out how things collapsed like they did when they were so close to playing in the Championship Game last season.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Getting rid of Franklin and Allar not being the QB (sad it was from injury) made them better. They still messed up the game and have QBs on the roster that look good on combine measurements but really arent that good but are an improvement as low of a bar as that is.
Some NFL team probably does something really stupid with Allar from combine stats like the Colts did with Richardson but he wasnt very good
Fire AJ Preller
First time in history Indiana won at Penn State. And it took probably the best TD catch of the year to do it.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
Upset alert. Almost halftime Auburn 17 Vanderbilt 3.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
i don't think it would be hyperbolic to say that that was one of the best catches in the history of college football
not only the sublime vertical, extreme body control and footwork that a ballerina would be envious of, but also what the catch meant for that particular school in an unblemished season
i think i've watched it 10 times
and of course the icing was having Gus Johnson on the call, a commentator who -- let's face it -- has no equal
dude got so excited it sounded like he was speaking in tongues
sheer greatness, all of it
Honestly that catch is getting over hyped. Its not even the most difficult catch of the day that has happened. And not to mention all the full extension one handed catches in history.
It was exciting and the PSU DB should have actually shoved him while he was in the air and put some effort into it. The win doesnt really change much for Indiana. Theyre going to drop a spot or two and even if they lost theyre still going to make the B!G championship against OSU and be in the playoffs. If they cant win out against Wisconsin and Perdue they dont deserve to be in the playoffs
Fire AJ Preller
Blah, blah, blah....................
Really, what's wrong with you?? You try to come across like an expert analyst who has years of playing experience.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
well, let's see it
it better be good
and it better be a game-winning TD
https://x.com/CFBONFOX/status/1987256513531105715?s=20
Now it's Oregon's turn for some late game heroics to pull out a victory. That game is hard to figure out, the Ducks known for passing have more than 250 yards on the ground and less than 100 through the air. How did this turn into a defensive battle where both teams ran the ball??
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
@galaxy27, he even got both feet down!! But , yeah, just your average catch, right??!!!!!!!!
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
And it looks like Oregon will prevail with a last second Field Goal. Not the way I thought the game would go.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
You could look at Texas last week or Auburn with Coleman today which no wasnt game winning. But wouldnt matter anyways. It was a nice play but lets calm down with the best catch in history stuff and wasnt the most difficult catch of even the day
Coleman just made another one handed catch tipping it to himself for a TD and now a 3rd one handed catch for a 2 pt conversion. All the catches were significantly harder
Fire AJ Preller
Lol DJ Moore 100 passing yards and a INT in the endzone early in the game. Oregon won from a safety. Oregon is not a top 10 team with Moore at QB
Fire AJ Preller
Iowa almost got em. It was a story about a boy. A boy who wishfully hoped... but alas it was not enough.
Did you not watch the game? It poured rain almost the entire game. Moore won the game with A perfect pass that set his team up for the winning FG.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
Were those catches in the last seconds of the game where there's a ton a pressure?
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
lol a nice play
with the outcome on the line he almost reached the level of the crossbar and snagged the game-winner with a guy draped on him. then while in midair he had the wherewithal to look at the ground and get not one, but two feet in by a matter of inches
i'm going to pour myself a glass of bourbon in your honor while i await these better catches you speak of
Auburn and Vandy headed to overtime at 38 all. Sec network.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
I've caught better colds in the rain.
Washington says "hold my beer".
Texas yes. Would have ended their playoff hopes if he didnt finger tip it in the endzone
Fire AJ Preller
Weather impacts both teams the same when it comes to rain. Moore ios alright he just isnt that good considering his team being so much better almost every week
Fire AJ Preller
This is what happens when there are so many nice hills to choose from.
Louisville crapped the bed on that loss. Between them and UVA doing the same the ACC is now a mess
Fire AJ Preller
The new CFP rankings top 5 should remain unchanged.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
A&M is better than Indiana right now. I think they will end up in 2.
Bologna
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
Watch.
@bgr said: Watch.
I did and the CFP might be different but the AP and Coaches have Indiana ahead.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
I don’t know why you’re coming at me. I live in a world where I think the most likely scenario is that the CFP is going to look at A&M’s win over ranked Missouri and Indiana struggling at PSU and they flip em.
I don’t really care though so if you’re sure then I’m with you and your crystal ball. I do think A&M is better than Indiana though.
The only reason Texas a@m is undefeated is because they haven't played Georgia or Alabama. They only beat a bad Arkansas team by a field goal. I think Indiana is better. Their defense is currently rated at #5, and their offense is #6.
Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!
Ohio State Buckeyes - National Champions
@bgs said: I don’t know why you’re coming at me.
I'm not and all I posted was a simple answer to your snarly one-word "Watch" reply. Like I said, the CFP might be different so in part I agree with you. Aside from that, haven't we been through all this before via PM?? If you keep wanting to play cutesy you might be rubbed the wrong way with some of my replies just like that Basebal player. In the immortal words from a coin forum's tagline, I don't tolerate fools kindly.
I'll let @coolstanley analyze the Strength of Schedule BS line because it tires me out, suffice as to say that as long the "Poll Voters" insist on ranking SEC teams higher than they should be and the Big 10 teams lower than they should be that things are gonna look like a fantasy. As the past few seasons have pointed out via the Playoff system and the entire Bowl Game scenario, the SEC is weaker than everyone thinks and the Big 10 is stronger than everyone thinks
Neither of us can deny that truth, but we're willing to believe the Poll concocted fantasy as we wish.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Me: A&M is better than Indiana right now. I think they will end up in 2.
Stan: Bologna
Me: Watch
Now we wait until 7PM ET on Tuesday.
I get that, in the interim, you guys want to tell me how stupid I am and how smart you are. Enjoy it. I get that if the CFP does rank them 2 you'll come and insult me further and cry about the SEC. I get that if the CFP doesn't you'll be back to insult and ridicule how stupid I am for thinking they would. This is the way.
I have no comment for now on your private messages other than - these messages to me are not welcome or necessary.
You keep calling every opinion you don't like "Strength of Schedule BS" but it doesn't appear that you understand it at all. Have you looked at the Strength of Record standings? Do you want to take a stab at explaining how you think this works and then others can help you understand it more correctly?
SOR
1 A&M
2 Indiana
3 OSU
4 Alabama
5 Georgia
SOS
1 Gators
2 Badgers
3 LSU
4 The Original (this one is just for BB21) USC
5 Auburn
I am not a strength of schedule proponent for rankings during the season. At the start of the season, it's least valid, but also most necessary. It's like asking what the weather is going to be like next month. I have a fair idea, but things change. I think the CFP committee does a solid job. Their hands are tied a bit in some areas. It's a business after all.
@bgs said: I get that, in the interim, you guys want to tell me how stupid I am and how smart you are. Enjoy it. I get that if the CFP does rank them 2 you'll come and insult me further and cry about the SEC. I get that if the CFP doesn't you'll be back to insult and ridicule how stupid I am for thinking they would. This is the way.
Now you're talking like a baby because we haven't been doing that, at least I haven't.
The thing about the schedule and record strength is that it's all based on biased Polling. I explained myself above and throughout the whole thread. If you want to listen to the pundits tell you who's strong and who has a really good record based on their Poll voting you can do that, I just don't believe they really know what they're talking about. Consider everything those "experts" thought about Texas, Clemson and LSU 3 months ago. Why would you think they still have an opinion that matters. I've also been pretty clear about the CFP, their main interest isn't in deciding which team is best, it's more directed toward manipulating which teams will play each other in the playoff to get the best game for the Championship. It's not a conspiracy, it's just the NCAA taking care of itself for monetary reasons. I think I posted several pages back who I thought would be in the Top 12 or 10 when there was still 6-7 weeks left in the season.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," --- Benjamin Franklin
Believe what you want. I don't want you to feel like you need to change how you interact or that I care about how you interact. I don't need to like you to be able to find value in some of the things you post here. You present a pattern as I see it.
This isn't true. Strength of Schedule is a simple linear regression based on average winning percentage. If you believe it's biased just explain how.
I explained myself above and throughout the whole thread.
What a classic. The 'I have already explained it' is usually followed by 'If you can't understand it...'. I am proud of you for taking a stand and wanting to be correct. Now you need to put in the work!
If you want to listen to the pundits tell you who's strong and who has a really good record based on their Poll voting you can do that, I just don't believe they really know what they're talking about.
Both SOS and SOR are based on statistical averages. These are not biased by polling, voting, or expert opinion.
**Consider everything those "experts" thought about Texas, Clemson and LSU 3 months ago. Why would you think they still have an opinion that matters. **
I'm not saying that anyone's opinion matters arbitrarily here. If you want me to offer an opinion on any particular opinion as to why it may matter I would need to know which one you want me to consider. This is just noise to distract from the fact that you are asserting things that you have not even tried to understand.
**I've also been pretty clear about the CFP, their main interest isn't in deciding which team is best, it's more directed toward manipulating which teams will play each other in the playoff to get the best game for the Championship. **
I would guess that the primary objective is engagement, which drives money. While there is going to be some "gamesmanship" here, because end of the day it's about making money... quality is a big part of that is what the product is. So you're going to have the 8 best teams in the CFP but you're not going to have the 12 best teams. I'll take this over what the B1G wants to do, which is absolutely ridiculous. I'm not a fan of the SEC either, but the 16 team flop makes more sense to me.
It's not a conspiracy, it's just the NCAA taking care of itself for monetary reasons.
You've figured it out. A primary objective of a business is to make money. Here's your diploma.
I think I posted several pages back who I thought would be in the Top 12 or 10 when there was still 6-7 weeks left in the season.
I apologize, but I don't know whether this is significant because I did not really look closely at what your predictions were. Did you get them all correct or something? I think more than 8 starts to raise an eyebrow, so if you got like 10 right before the season started... good job!