@Abuelo said:
The Durango eagle is, after the Hookneck, the most beautiful eagle in all of Mexican coins. The third place would be the one in the 20 gold pesos in the XX century, but not close.
I was very excited to win this 1813 Suprema Junta half real earlier in the week! It is absolutely one of my favorite types and is really well struck for the issue. The registries for both NGC and PCGS seem to need some updating, as it is listed under Zacatecas and the populations are combined between this issue and the SJNG type.
Curious to see if anyone else picked up anything from the JBR Collection?
I know it is not Thursday, but last night had one of those surprises while browsing eBay (something that I do every day as I am sure many of you do too). Anyway, I found a Durango 10 pesos 1873/2. All 10 pesos from the Republic are rare (NGC has graded a little over 400 for all dates and mints) and while this is not the rarest (about a dozen coins graded) could be a decade before I see another one. The price was reasonable, so I bought it. I do not think the coin was available but a couple of hours and already had a large number of people that had it in their watch list (in fact when I bought it eBay told me that 2 other people had it in their shopping cart)... So here it is:
The only thing that was not right was timing as Stacks has a rather interesting auction of Mexican coins tomorrow so I dent my funds a bit. But I just could not let it go.
That table that @pruebas copied is the living proof of how rare Republic gold is. Sure you can always find a half escudo on eBay, just remember that there are nearly 100 combinations of year, assayer, mint for the half escudo and you have 915 coins graded... comes to 9 coins per type (of course this is just an average)! Try comparing to Morgan dollars!
Happy Thursday! When I was at the bank today I took this picture. Yes, the light is terrible... Here we have this Top Pop (NGC) likely because the variety goes unrecognised. This is an 1862 C/F H half escudo.
I saw the C/F and had to submit to NGC to correct the attribution, they honoured it.
Thanks- obviously a details grade in the EF spectrum, but some coins that have served their intended purpose can be still appreciated for what they are and how they survived.
The 1793 8R graded 45- just a reasonable circulated example
Congrats in connection with the Stack's wins- nice looking examples
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@TwoKopeiki said:
This toning reminds me of a european collection of high grade crowns that was sold by WAG over a number of different sessions in 2021. A lot of them exhibited similar type toning that looked great at photos, but had a bit of a unnatural shine in-hand. The few examples from that collection I ended-up acquiring all bodybagged. I hope that's not the case here, but the white spots in the toning and the overall look triggered some memories. I hope i'm wrong as it appears to be a nice example.
Here are a few examples from the collection:
To be honest, I also agree as well -- I saw some of these sold in a European I believe UK auction house that noted something along the lines of retoned and old cleaning. I feel maybe it is best to see how it is in hand and under a light.
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@TwoKopeiki said:
This toning reminds me of a european collection of high grade crowns that was sold by WAG over a number of different sessions in 2021. A lot of them exhibited similar type toning that looked great at photos, but had a bit of a unnatural shine in-hand. The few examples from that collection I ended-up acquiring all bodybagged. I hope that's not the case here, but the white spots in the toning and the overall look triggered some memories. I hope i'm wrong as it appears to be a nice example.
Here are a few examples from the collection:
To be honest, I also agree as well -- I saw some of these sold in a European I believe UK auction house that noted something along the lines of retoned and old cleaning. I feel maybe it is best to see how it is in hand and under a light.
Agreed! I did see something along the lines of that as well.
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@Plus00Vltra said:
Finally in hand today:
Unlisted Yonaka variety with inverted letters N.
That's a coin I was interested in too (very nice for this mint) but wasn't going to allocate the budget to it. I thought it would sell for somewhat more. Low mintage where there can't be many like it.
Speaking of overdates, here are a few of mine that came from a completely unexpected source (at the LCS we still call it the "Cat Piss Collection") - probably the biggest and most impressive collection of world overdates I've seen in my lifetime.
LCS owner wanted to pass on the whole thing due to the outward condition of everything. As I flipped through the old PVC pages of 2x2, I told him to give me a couple of hours to come up with an offer because we were definitely buying it.
These are a few of the pieces I bought from it to add to my collection (just the pieces I have imaged and on the USB drive that's plugged in to my computer):
Is it much rarer with overdate talking about the dollar upper than without it? It was what it was, i didn't seek for or choose because they're not lots of its in Russia, i mean.
Speaking of Russia…. I bought three plaster replicas of rare Mexican coins supposedly made by the Hermitage Museum in the 1960s at the request of a Mexican researcher who was communicating with them.
This was apparently the way museums shared coin details back then (at least in the USSR) rather than photos or rubbings.
I believe the plasters were plated in a Mexican numismatic book around 1972.
I should dig out the details and post them here as a fun exhibit.
(I was toying with the idea of donating them to the ANS as a historic artifact.)
@Sergey74 said:
Is it much rarer with overdate talking about the dollar upper than without it? It was what it was, i didn't seek for or choose because they're not lots of its in Russia, i mean.
It doesn't appear to be much more rare than the plain date. They both seem to have a similar availability.
I recently added this, from the Peh collection. I really like the color. There aren’t too many in 64 and up, especially given the length of the series.
@pruebas said:
Speaking of Russia…. I bought three plaster replicas of rare Mexican coins supposedly made by the Hermitage Museum in the 1960s at the request of a Mexican researcher who was communicating with them.
This was apparently the way museums shared coin details back then (at least in the USSR) rather than photos or rubbings.
I believe the plasters were plated in a Mexican numismatic book around 1972.
I should dig out the details and post them here as a fun exhibit.
(I was toying with the idea of donating them to the ANS as a historic artifact.)
I found them. There are six pieces, since they are uniface.
Each has an inventory number on the reverse.
Here are some quick images (some used a flash, sorry).
Zongolica 8R:
(This piece is one of 5 known to exist . It was known that the Hermitage had an example.)
@pruebas said:
Speaking of Russia…. I bought three plaster replicas of rare Mexican coins supposedly made by the Hermitage Museum in the 1960s at the request of a Mexican researcher who was communicating with them.
This was apparently the way museums shared coin details back then (at least in the USSR) rather than photos or rubbings.
I believe the plasters were plated in a Mexican numismatic book around 1972.
I should dig out the details and post them here as a fun exhibit.
(I was toying with the idea of donating them to the ANS as a historic artifact.)
I found them. There are six pieces, since they are uniface.
Each has an inventory number on the reverse.
Here are some quick images (some used a flash, sorry).
Zongolica 8R:
(This piece is one of 5 known to exist . It was known that the Hermitage had an example.)
These are cool. I think I was able to find the 1733 by searching the Hermitage website, but not the other two. Theres only the reverse image of the 1733 but i'm not sure it's a match for the plaster. The image shows strike weakness on the top lion and castle while the plaster seems to have more detail preserved. But hard to say for sure.
Would be cool to see a Zongolica in that collection. Hermitage is on my bucket list although with the current political climate it's anyone's guess as to when I would be able to visit.
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I agree. And it makes sense it’s French.
Amazing acquisition and story! Well done @pruebas 👍
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The pics are terrible, this is a beautiful coin, these make it look like it has lung cancer.
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Bolivia 1 Sol. Happy weekend, everyone!
Very cool looking coin thanks for sharing!!!
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New addition to the set. Nice and crusty
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Two I've added this year.
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I was very excited to win this 1813 Suprema Junta half real earlier in the week! It is absolutely one of my favorite types and is really well struck for the issue. The registries for both NGC and PCGS seem to need some updating, as it is listed under Zacatecas and the populations are combined between this issue and the SJNG type.
Curious to see if anyone else picked up anything from the JBR Collection?
Lovely example @threefifty
Congrats!
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I know it is not Thursday, but last night had one of those surprises while browsing eBay (something that I do every day as I am sure many of you do too). Anyway, I found a Durango 10 pesos 1873/2. All 10 pesos from the Republic are rare (NGC has graded a little over 400 for all dates and mints) and while this is not the rarest (about a dozen coins graded) could be a decade before I see another one. The price was reasonable, so I bought it. I do not think the coin was available but a couple of hours and already had a large number of people that had it in their watch list (in fact when I bought it eBay told me that 2 other people had it in their shopping cart)... So here it is:
The only thing that was not right was timing as Stacks has a rather interesting auction of Mexican coins tomorrow so I dent my funds a bit. But I just could not let it go.
Awesome catch @Abuelo ❤️ Congrats!
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@Abuelo I agree with you. That’s why I’ve always liked 4E and G2.5P! Ideally, we should add the PCGS pops to these for a more accurate picture.
I recently had to restrain myself from pulling the trigger on an 8E with the beautiful French eagle.
That’s quite nice @Abuelo an overdate to boot!
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That table that @pruebas copied is the living proof of how rare Republic gold is. Sure you can always find a half escudo on eBay, just remember that there are nearly 100 combinations of year, assayer, mint for the half escudo and you have 915 coins graded... comes to 9 coins per type (of course this is just an average)! Try comparing to Morgan dollars!
Take a look to this video by Kent.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2tRLD9LgjW/?igsh=Mnloam1iYXd6MDJi
That said, please do not start collecting Mexican gold... it is hard enough already! 😄😄😄
Agree @SimonW
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Happy Thursday! When I was at the bank today I took this picture. Yes, the light is terrible... Here we have this Top Pop (NGC) likely because the variety goes unrecognised. This is an 1862 C/F H half escudo.
I saw the C/F and had to submit to NGC to correct the attribution, they honoured it.
Enjoy!
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Mexico 1793 Mo 8R
Peru 1755 4- Yes this one was pierced but it really has a wonderful look in hand
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That’s a very nice looking Peru regardless of the hole @coinkat
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A couple new ones from the recent Stack’s auction:
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@SimonW -
Thanks- obviously a details grade in the EF spectrum, but some coins that have served their intended purpose can be still appreciated for what they are and how they survived.
The 1793 8R graded 45- just a reasonable circulated example
Congrats in connection with the Stack's wins- nice looking examples
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Finally in hand today:
Unlisted Yonaka variety with inverted letters N.
Those are fantastic additions @SimonW; aiming to shoot the moon on Lima 4R?
You should send the images to Brad Yonaka so he can add it to the new 2nd edition book he is working on. If you need is e-mail just PM me.
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To be honest, I also agree as well -- I saw some of these sold in a European I believe UK auction house that noted something along the lines of retoned and old cleaning. I feel maybe it is best to see how it is in hand and under a light.
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So you’re the one…🤣
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If they show up. I don’t have any plans of stopping, but I never really made plans to finish the set. We’ll see what happens. I have 8 of them now.
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Agreed! I did see something along the lines of that as well.
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That's a coin I was interested in too (very nice for this mint) but wasn't going to allocate the budget to it. I thought it would sell for somewhat more. Low mintage where there can't be many like it.
Hi everyone.
US dollar 1802:
The northern army peso:
Peace.
Don't know the US series to provide a comment on authenticity, but that 1802 looks to be 2/1 overdate.
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Yes, it is.
Peace.
Speaking of overdates, here are a few of mine that came from a completely unexpected source (at the LCS we still call it the "Cat Piss Collection") - probably the biggest and most impressive collection of world overdates I've seen in my lifetime.
LCS owner wanted to pass on the whole thing due to the outward condition of everything. As I flipped through the old PVC pages of 2x2, I told him to give me a couple of hours to come up with an offer because we were definitely buying it.
These are a few of the pieces I bought from it to add to my collection (just the pieces I have imaged and on the USB drive that's plugged in to my computer):
Bolivia 1863/1862 2 Soles
Newfoundland 1880/7 10 Cents
Chile 1892/82 Half Decimo
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Is it much rarer with overdate talking about the dollar upper than without it? It was what it was, i didn't seek for or choose because they're not lots of its in Russia, i mean.
Peace.
Speaking of Russia…. I bought three plaster replicas of rare Mexican coins supposedly made by the Hermitage Museum in the 1960s at the request of a Mexican researcher who was communicating with them.
This was apparently the way museums shared coin details back then (at least in the USSR) rather than photos or rubbings.
I believe the plasters were plated in a Mexican numismatic book around 1972.
I should dig out the details and post them here as a fun exhibit.
(I was toying with the idea of donating them to the ANS as a historic artifact.)
It doesn't appear to be much more rare than the plain date. They both seem to have a similar availability.
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Peru, presidency of Bolivar:
Peace.
I recently added this, from the Peh collection. I really like the color. There aren’t too many in 64 and up, especially given the length of the series.
@scubafuel that is a superb coin.
Gorgeous early milled Mexican 1 real congrats!!!
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I found them. There are six pieces, since they are uniface.
Each has an inventory number on the reverse.
Here are some quick images (some used a flash, sorry).
Zongolica 8R:
(This piece is one of 5 known to exist . It was known that the Hermitage had an example.)
1733-MoMF (small crown) 8R Pillar:
1724-MoD 8R Galano:
Awesome post @pruebas! Crazy that they have a Zongolica 8r, I wonder how it made its way over there.
These are cool. I think I was able to find the 1733 by searching the Hermitage website, but not the other two. Theres only the reverse image of the 1733 but i'm not sure it's a match for the plaster. The image shows strike weakness on the top lion and castle while the plaster seems to have more detail preserved. But hard to say for sure.
https://www.hermitagemuseum.org/digital-collection/3128296?lng=ru
Would be cool to see a Zongolica in that collection. Hermitage is on my bucket list although with the current political climate it's anyone's guess as to when I would be able to visit.
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1760 Lima 4, Ferdinand, posthumous issue.
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