I posted this coin when I first got it but I just now got it back from grading after leaving it in my tray for a while.
I believe this type is notable for being the first ever coin minted with the word "Guatemala" on it. According to Brian Stickney in A Monetary History of Central America it was minted from silver donated by the Catholic church at a fineness of .750 when all other circulating silver was to the colonial era standard.
A heritage auction listing for a different example states there are fewer than 30 confirmed surviving examples. Even if the real number is higher than that, I am glad to have my example.
These coins are fascinating, the CAR had serious political problems when this coin was minted. I think the 1829 Guatemala real and the El Salvador coinage from the 1830s are some of the most interesting coins ever minted. At least to me.
These coins are fascinating, the CAR had serious political problems when this coin was minted. I think the 1829 Guatemala real and the El Salvador coinage from the 1830s are some of the most interesting coins ever minted. At least to me.
Do you have any readings you would recommend to learn more about the Guatemala coins? I rely pretty heavily on the Stickney book. If it's only in Spanish I could probably give it a try. I have learned about the El Salvador coinage from Jovel & Yonaka's book, but I've been outbid the 3 or 4 times I tried to get a coin for myself.
These coins are fascinating, the CAR had serious political problems when this coin was minted. I think the 1829 Guatemala real and the El Salvador coinage from the 1830s are some of the most interesting coins ever minted. At least to me.
Do you have any readings you would recommend to learn more about the Guatemala coins? I rely pretty heavily on the Stickney book. If it's only in Spanish I could probably give it a try. I have learned about the El Salvador coinage from Jovel & Yonaka's book, but I've been outbid the 3 or 4 times I tried to get a coin for myself.
For the 1829 specifically this is the book:
Mr Jovel has an extraordinary group of books on CAR and early Central American coins, as well as the Iturbide series minted in Central America. Some of his books are easily available. Others not so much. The one on El Salvador I had to call a library in San Salvador to buy it and have it shipped to me... worth every penny as far as I am concerned.
I can add one more coin from my most recent submission. Came back details for the scratch but hard to complain since, well, it's scratched. The significance of this coin is the date of 1832, which in my experience has been much harder to find than 1831.
I think it's interesting to compare the positioning of the legend in this coin to the 1831 example directly above. It's rotated by about three letters if you look at where the volcano touches REPUBLICA. Meanwhile the reverse die appears to be the same, though on close inspection it might not be.
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
@Abuelo said:
Mr Jovel has an extraordinary group of books on CAR and early Central American coins, as well as the Iturbide series minted in Central America. Some of his books are easily available. Others not so much. The one on El Salvador I had to call a library in San Salvador to buy it and have it shipped to me... worth every penny as far as I am concerned.
Thanks for the tips.
I wasn't able to find the book covering Guatemala for sale immediately. However in my searching I found the El Salvador volume so based on what you said, I bought it right away. Just reading the table of contents I'm excited.
And for fun, I brought all my Central American specific books onto one shelf next to my desk.
@Boosibri said:
First time buying a coin at auction and seeing myself quoted on the flip attached.
That’s pretty cool.
Im looking forward to seeing what the Boosi pedigreed holders will look like!
Something like this....
Great coin!
If I ever do sell my collection, many years from now, I will sell them in the holders that they are in I think. Gives a better impression of being fresh, and I doubt the provenance will matter much to folks.
I bought one Eternal coin and I can't wait to liberate it from its holder.
@Boosibri said:
First time buying a coin at auction and seeing myself quoted on the flip attached.
That’s pretty cool.
Im looking forward to seeing what the Boosi pedigreed holders will look like!
Something like this....
Great coin!
If I ever do sell my collection, many years from now, I will sell them in the holders that they are in I think. Gives a better impression of being fresh, and I doubt the provenance will matter much to folks.
I bought one Eternal coin and I can't wait to liberate it from its holder.
I love the humility but I think your doubts are incorrect. Definitely hear you about the Eternal holders. Lots of provenance holders come off a bit cheesy to me.
If I wasn’t a very proud Virginia Cavalier who’s been traumatized multiple times in March by Izzo and the Spartans I would actually love Johnnys logo concept fwiw.
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I posted this coin when I first got it but I just now got it back from grading after leaving it in my tray for a while.
I believe this type is notable for being the first ever coin minted with the word "Guatemala" on it. According to Brian Stickney in A Monetary History of Central America it was minted from silver donated by the Catholic church at a fineness of .750 when all other circulating silver was to the colonial era standard.
A heritage auction listing for a different example states there are fewer than 30 confirmed surviving examples. Even if the real number is higher than that, I am glad to have my example.
@Euclid yes, it was "donated"...
These coins are fascinating, the CAR had serious political problems when this coin was minted. I think the 1829 Guatemala real and the El Salvador coinage from the 1830s are some of the most interesting coins ever minted. At least to me.
Picked this one up recently, just popped on PCGS, AU55. Very pleased.
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8 r Northern Peru
Peace.
Do you have any readings you would recommend to learn more about the Guatemala coins? I rely pretty heavily on the Stickney book. If it's only in Spanish I could probably give it a try. I have learned about the El Salvador coinage from Jovel & Yonaka's book, but I've been outbid the 3 or 4 times I tried to get a coin for myself.
For the 1829 specifically this is the book:
Mr Jovel has an extraordinary group of books on CAR and early Central American coins, as well as the Iturbide series minted in Central America. Some of his books are easily available. Others not so much. The one on El Salvador I had to call a library in San Salvador to buy it and have it shipped to me... worth every penny as far as I am concerned.
1944 2 1/2 struck for Curaçao at the Denver Mint. I picked this coin up for $25 at the start of September
VF 30
I can add one more coin from my most recent submission. Came back details for the scratch but hard to complain since, well, it's scratched. The significance of this coin is the date of 1832, which in my experience has been much harder to find than 1831.
I think it's interesting to compare the positioning of the legend in this coin to the 1831 example directly above. It's rotated by about three letters if you look at where the volcano touches REPUBLICA. Meanwhile the reverse die appears to be the same, though on close inspection it might not be.
http://www.mrbrklyn.com/coins/food_for_all_1972/1000_peso_1969_Uraguay_o.2.jpg
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http://www.mrbrklyn.com/uragay_1969_fao.html
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My second 8 r 1813, another stamp.
Peace.
Thanks for the tips.
I wasn't able to find the book covering Guatemala for sale immediately. However in my searching I found the El Salvador volume so based on what you said, I bought it right away. Just reading the table of contents I'm excited.
And for fun, I brought all my Central American specific books onto one shelf next to my desk.
Well done @Euclid
First time buying a coin at auction and seeing myself quoted on the flip attached.
Latin American Collection
Impressive @Boosibri
That’s pretty cool.
Im looking forward to seeing what the Boosi pedigreed holders will look like!
Something like this....
Great coin!
If I ever do sell my collection, many years from now, I will sell them in the holders that they are in I think. Gives a better impression of being fresh, and I doubt the provenance will matter much to folks.
I bought one Eternal coin and I can't wait to liberate it from its holder.
Latin American Collection
I love the humility but I think your doubts are incorrect. Definitely hear you about the Eternal holders. Lots of provenance holders come off a bit cheesy to me.
If I wasn’t a very proud Virginia Cavalier who’s been traumatized multiple times in March by Izzo and the Spartans I would actually love Johnnys logo concept fwiw.
I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.
@SimonW great coins!
Thanks Abuelo!
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