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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I feel. confident we can win today, Miami is a dumpster fire so let's go into Miami and punch them in the face.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46244307/patriots-trading-wr-jaylynn-polk-saints

    Another player from the 2024 Pats draft class has been sent packing,

    With just Drake Maye & OL Caedan Wallace left out of their 8 picks, I don’t see Eliot Wolf being kept around after this season.

    I know you didn't agree with me but I couldn't stand Polk

    I didn’t care about Polk at all, I just wanted to see them get some sort of value for him, even as small as it was.

    Just 17 months later, 6 of their 8 2024 draft picks are no longer on the roster and the only return that the team saw for that entire group was this minimal trade package.

    I get that, it sucks but it is what it is

    We need to evaluate talent better

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:
    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46244307/patriots-trading-wr-jaylynn-polk-saints

    Another player from the 2024 Pats draft class has been sent packing,

    With just Drake Maye & OL Caedan Wallace left out of their 8 picks, I don’t see Eliot Wolf being kept around after this season.

    I know you didn't agree with me but I couldn't stand Polk

    I didn’t care about Polk at all, I just wanted to see them get some sort of value for him, even as small as it was.

    Just 17 months later, 6 of their 8 2024 draft picks are no longer on the roster and the only return that the team saw for that entire group was this minimal trade package.

    I get that, it sucks but it is what it is

    We need to evaluate talent better

    Or maybe just give them more time to develop, on top of better talent evaluation.
    Moving off of that many draft picks after one season is very very rare especially when 3 were in the top 110 picks.

    When a team totally gives up on a player drafted that high, in such a short amount of time, it’s usually due to an arrest or situation where the optics look very damning on the organization. That’s not what happened here.

    In most cases, many of these young players will get waived then signed onto the practice squad and Vrabel was like nope, you’re all gone lol.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I feel. confident we can win today, Miami is a dumpster fire so let's go into Miami and punch them in the face.

    That’s much easier said than done. Miami has won 8 of the last 9 games against NE, regardless of home or away.

    If we do happen to win, it will be interesting to see if Mike McDaniel gets canned or not.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2025 7:52AM

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:
    I feel. confident we can win today, Miami is a dumpster fire so let's go into Miami and punch them in the face.

    That’s much easier said than done. Miami has won 8 of the last 9 games against NE, regardless of home or away.

    If we do happen to win, it will be interesting to see if Mike McDaniel gets canned or not.

    Anything I say here is easier said than done lol

    The history of us going down there and playing isn't great as we both know but I think Miami is unraveling, I think Tyreek wants out and McDaniel can't handle attitudes,

    Pats 23 Miami 16

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭✭✭

    -> @perkdog said:

    @erikthredd said:

    @perkdog said:
    I feel. confident we can win today, Miami is a dumpster fire so let's go into Miami and punch them in the face.

    That’s much easier said than done. Miami has won 8 of the last 9 games against NE, regardless of home or away.

    If we do happen to win, it will be interesting to see if Mike McDaniel gets canned or not.

    Anything I say here is easier said than done lol

    The history of us going down there and playing isn't great as we both know but I think Miami is unraveling, I think Tyreek wants out and McDaniel can't handle attitudes,

    Pats 23 Miami 16

    I actually just checked and Miami has won 4 in a row against NE in Miami. Tua has also never lost to the Pats.

    Looks like Christian Gonzalez is out again and if Carlton Davis continues to get beat like he did last week, I’d expect Tyreek & Waddle to have a field day versus our secondary.

    If we’re going to have any chance of winning this game, Josh McDaniels needs to get the run game going. Do whatever he needs to do to get TreyVeyon Henderson more touches on offense.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    feeling confident today as well. If we can get consistent pressure on tua, he will wilt. it is what he does under pressure. if that first read is not open, panic time

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,913 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Miami has always been a tough game for the Patriots, especially in the fish’s yard. The Patriots had problems with them even when they were great. I am not optimistic.

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  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2025 10:11AM

    Great start!
    Edit: I type that and the kicker blows the extra point 🤣

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    great first drive!!!

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I want this kicker cut right now

    Not after the game not tomorrow but right now

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,913 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This kicker has got to go. There has got to be somebody out there who is better than this stiff.

    As for Miami, they have no defense. Their best defensive player is the New England kicker.

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    this guy needs to be cut

    like before halftime

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    while we are at it, can CBS figure this thing out. they have only been broadcasting games for 50 years...

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,913 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    while we are at it, can CBS figure this thing out. they have only been broadcasting games for 50 years...

    At least I know it’s not my local station.

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  • BillJonesBillJones Posts: 34,913 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    this guy needs to be cut

    like before halftime

    Give him one more shot. If he misses, we can try the punter.

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 14, 2025 11:20AM

    @craig44 said:
    while we are at it, can CBS figure this thing out. they have only been broadcasting games for 50 years...

    Seriously, we were ready to rip the TV off the wall

    They can put a robot on Mars but can't figure out a nonsense free broadcast????

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    defense getting shredded. missing CB1 really hampers them. no pressure on Tua. will need to change that up in the second half and make the game quicker for him. he struggles when things speed up

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That was such a weird game. Lots of good, lots of bad but glad we got the win.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i agree, it was weird. here is hoping all 3 units will gel together better after a few more weeks.

    glad to eek out the W

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 8,799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @galaxy27 said:

    That play cost me $300 lol

  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 15, 2025 4:30PM

    @perkdog said:

    That play cost me $300 lol

    But you at least got what you were asking for in last week’s game 😎

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    tough to go into halftime with no points on that big drive. tough interception by drake

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the defense is starting to come around though

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    wow, spillane finally did something good!!

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    can we PLEASE bench/cut Stevenson?

    7 fumbles last season, 2 today.

    I have had enough

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    now gibson with a fumble. impossible to win with all the turnovers. 4 so far. 2 at goal line/end zone

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Gross, they had a chance but didn't get it done

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    5 turnovers total. cant win that way

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the only reason to keep stevenson on this team is to save wear and tear on henderson

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  • erikthredderikthredd Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s been pretty tough trying to get a read on this team under Vrabel. You can see the offense getting better each week where they start stacking up consecutive successful plays into a deep prolonged drive, only to let one mental error at the very end ruin it all. They were absolutely brutal at finishing off drives today.

    They had the 5 turnovers plus 2 more interceptions that got overturned.

    As for Stevenson, I think the worst part is that he’s been their best player on offense over these first three games. I doubt that they’re going to change his touches much unless he keeps coughing the ball up.

    They’re now 0-2 at home with Carolina coming in next, who just shut out the Falcons 30-0 today.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 11,863 ✭✭✭✭✭

    team looked great yesterday. It helps that they were playing Carolina. a big test coming next weekend

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 32,094 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They definately looked great against arguably the worst team in the league

    I'll take the win though, Special teams has been pretty damn good this season

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,621 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    team looked great yesterday. It helps that they were playing Carolina. a big test coming next weekend

    Carolina shut out Atlanta 30-0 and then Atlanta smoked Washington. It’s a strange league

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