2025 New England Patriots Discussion Thread

erikthredd

Might as well turn the page and start a new Pats thread as well. Here's Vrabel's press conference from this morning at the combine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv5jZLMB3mY

perkdog

Nice job!

craig44

Awesome, I am in, right after perk.

priority number 1, Offensive Line.

perkdog

@craig44 said:
Awesome, I am in, right after perk.

priority number 1, Offensive Line.

100%

OL and some WR's

erikthredd

I'm ok with passing on drafting more WRs in this draft when they haven't been able to develop the four talented wideouts already on the team in Polk, Douglas, Boutte & Baker. That group needs another adult in the room, not another 20yr old in his first NFL camp. I'd rather see them use a somewhat high pick on a legit pass catching TE though. Gunnar Helm out of Texas or LSU's Mason Taylor (former Fins DE Jason Taylor's son) are the two that I'd be looking at in rounds 3-4. Maybe even Iowa's Luke Lachey later on.

The only real elite wideouts in this draft will likely be off of the board by the time our 2nd pick comes around and I'd prefer that they use their top two picks beefing up each side of the ball at the line of scrimmage. We have zero serviceable tackles on offense and their main defensive line rotation is a bunch of guys in their 30's (Godchaux/Wise/Ekuale) and one that's been battling blood clots in Barmore. Two picks in the top 38 should be able to land you two foundational linemen like you found in 2001 with Richard Seymour & Matt Light. Now go put in the work and find those caliber of players.

bronco2078

OL

Basebal21

Supposedly rumors are starting that Hunter may still be there at 4 With the Titans looking to move down and some combination of Ward, Sanders, Ewers or Milroe being the top 3 picks. RIP to whatever fan base gets subjected to Milroe as their first round QB if that happens. Dart could potentially be another but Milroe is going to look incredible at the combine and I really think someone is going to do something stupid with him.

Hunter and Maye together would be awesome. Its not a good offensive draft overall but even if they dont take a WR at 4 there should still be a premium one at the top of the 2nd.

Im very curious how Vrabel and Boutte are going to get along. Boutte has the talent to be that adult in the WR room, but his attitude has always held him back. Vrabs is generally really well liked by all the former Titans players but they all also say hes not going to put up with any crap and you get a lot of that with Boutte

erikthredd

I'd be really surprised if Vrabel moves on from Boutte over anything he said or did under a previous head coach here. From all reports it sounds like the majority of players under contract will be given a fresh start now with Vrabel taking over and Boutte was the one wideout in the WR room last season that actually showed flashes of possibly developing into a better WR down the road. That all being said, this time around those young WRs won't be running their mouths like they did a year ago.

At this point I'm cool with any of Abdul Carter, Travis Hunter, Mason Graham or Will Campbell with that 4th pick. Even better if they could possibly drop back 2-3 spots, add a pick or two and still land one of the four but that would take a QB falling and some team trying to move up to land him.

Basebal21

I dont think Vrabs would do it from the past unless every one just hates him, but Boutte has shown for years that hes going to end up doing something. His all American freshman year at LSU seemed to get to his head. Thats the part I am very curious about seeing how it will develop. You can be a players coach and still not put up with nonsense which is Vrabs reputation

At least 1 of the three of Carter, Hunter, Campbell will be there for sure, two if Graham is included.

erikthredd

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/44022968/sources-titans-give-harold-landry-permission-seek-trade

Here's an interesting name to keep an eye on. Vrabel actually traded up for Landry in his first draft with the Titans and the Pats LBs are pretty meh.

perkdog

Can always use a good LB

erikthredd

His sack totals for his past three seasons have been 12/10/9, he’d almost instantly become their best pass rusher. His 17m salary could easily be manageable with the cap space they have. It would then just come down to cost, likely a 4-5th rounder at most. I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. Having played at BC and previously under Vrabel is just a huge bonus here.

bronco2078

@erikthredd said:
His sack totals for his past three seasons have been 12/10/9, he’d almost instantly become their best pass rusher. His 17m salary could easily be manageable with the cap space they have. It would then just come down to cost, likely a 4-5th rounder at most. I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. Having played at BC and previously under Vrabel is just a huge bonus here.

BC ?
british columbia has football?

erikthredd

@bronco2078 said:

@erikthredd said:
His sack totals for his past three seasons have been 12/10/9, he’d almost instantly become their best pass rusher. His 17m salary could easily be manageable with the cap space they have. It would then just come down to cost, likely a 4-5th rounder at most. I'd do that trade in a heartbeat. Having played at BC and previously under Vrabel is just a huge bonus here.

BC ?
british columbia has football?

Actually, they do, the BC Lions in the CFL and they won twice as many games as the Pats in 2024. Maybe we should be looking to raid their roster lol.

Basebal21

Deebo is supposedly getting traded and supposedly the price wont be that high

perkdog

@Basebal21 said:
Deebo is supposedly getting traded and supposedly the price wont be that high

Possibly because the guy has done such a Phenominal. job of ruining his reputation

He sucked last year and was literally a high maintenance distraction

perkdog

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/new-england-patriots/news/patriots-predicted-land-four-time-1000-yard-receiver-pair-drake-maye/a208704995e74280e67c096f

Hopefully Godwin isn't washed up, if they land him I'd love to see him take on a veteran leadership role and teach some of our WR's how to play , notably Polk who was an utter disaster

craig44

I would take Godwin. My only experience watching him was during the brady years. he was a very good WR, but somewhat fragile.

Basebal21

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:
Deebo is supposedly getting traded and supposedly the price wont be that high

Possibly because the guy has done such a Phenominal. job of ruining his reputation

He sucked last year and was literally a high maintenance distraction

Other than Kittle they all sucked including their QB lol. If the rumors are true that it would only take a 4th rounder I would take a chance on that

perkdog

@Basebal21 said:

@perkdog said:

@Basebal21 said:
Deebo is supposedly getting traded and supposedly the price wont be that high

Possibly because the guy has done such a Phenominal. job of ruining his reputation

He sucked last year and was literally a high maintenance distraction

Other than Kittle they all sucked including their QB lol. If the rumors are true that it would only take a 4th rounder I would take a chance on that

100%

Basebal21

Well Washington apparently just got Deebo for a 5th round pick according to Shefty and Rap