@ProofCollection said:
Patience. They have to deal with the GDP. Generally Dumb Public all day long trying to sell them pocket change.
Yes patience (don’t let them bug you), maintaining game face a must.
Lowballers - I may ask them if they have one sell me at that and at times procured some good pickups. One guy said “your competition over there has one for less” trying haggle me down on a nice slabbed SLQ. I rejected his low ball offer, went over to that dealers table and looked at that coin - it was an obvious inferior piece vs mine.
For the GDP I have cheap junk box raw material mostly raw collector coins in 2x2. Sales of that help pay show expenses.
I applaud your effort to provide coins for everyone at your table. In fact, most of my greatest "cherrypicks" came from the junk boxes of GDD although it's getting harder to do these days. In January I scored one of the common 1788 Machin's Mills Copper with a planchet flaw (VG+ to F) in the dollar box. I cannot wait to see what's next.
Apparently disdain for the customers is one of his angles...
I don't know him, but I agree with him that THE PUBLIC in general (not numismatists or many CRH) can be classified as extremely dumb when it comes to coins. That does not mean we should have distain for them although I imagine it can be very annoying when John Q walks into your shop with a circulated "rare" 1940 Lincoln cent to sell because he saw one listed for 2K on Ebay!
@ProofCollection said:
Patience. They have to deal with the GDP. Generally Dumb Public all day long trying to sell them pocket change.
Yes patience (don’t let them bug you), maintaining game face a must.
Lowballers - I may ask them if they have one sell me at that and at times procured some good pickups. One guy said “your competition over there has one for less” trying haggle me down on a nice slabbed SLQ. I rejected his low ball offer, went over to that dealers table and looked at that coin - it was an obvious inferior piece vs mine.
For the GDP I have cheap junk box raw material mostly raw collector coins in 2x2. Sales of that help pay show expenses.
I applaud your effort to provide coins for everyone at your table. In fact, most of my greatest "cherrypicks" came from the junk boxes of GDD although it's getting harder to do these days. In January I scored one of the common 1788 Machin's Mills Copper with a planchet flaw (VG+ to F) in the dollar box. I cannot wait to see what's next.
Apparently disdain for the customers is one of his angles...
I don't know him, but I agree with him that THE PUBLIC in general (not numismatists or many CRH) can be classified as extremely dumb when it comes to coins. That does not mean we should have distain for them although I imagine it can be very annoying when John Q walks into your shop with a circulated "rare" 1940 Lincoln cent to sell because he saw one listed for 2K on Ebay!
Everyone is ignorant about most things outside their area of specialty. Dealing with the public requires patience. I spent 2 hours with a guy with a stamp collection on Saturday trying to explain the reality of what he had even though I really didn't want to buy it. I ended up buying some of it but begged him to shop it around because he was still "skeptical".
I also recently spent about a dozen hours over THREE YEARS with a guy helping him organize a large stamp estate. I was unpaid and only promised the opportunity to be one of three offers. In the end, I ended up being the only offer and bought the whole storage unit, but it could have turned out differently.
LCS owners answer multiple phone calls every week from people who saw click bait, have that coin app that tells you every coin could be worth $10k, or simply found something unusual to them. (This past weekend, I was in my friend's shop and two different people came in asking about the gold value of their President dollars. )
But if you look at his prior posts with the "looky Lous" and the "tire kickers", his disdain extends beyond simply the ignorance of non-collectors.
I think he sees customers as marks - a target for exploitation due to their gullibility, wealth, or naivety. He likes to brag about this approach via football analogies, no matter how inane.
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Leave some room for price haggling. Remember - They will try to talk you down with their BS.
The last part of this post makes it very easy to press the skip button and avoid your table altogether. Guess you skipped the line that offered people skills. Probably couldn't haggle it down.
Leave some room for price haggling. Remember - They will try to talk you down with their BS.
The last part of this post makes it very easy to press the skip button and avoid your table altogether. Guess you skipped the line that offered people skills. Probably couldn't haggle it down.
No problem when their BS starts its time for them to leave. Goodbye.
LCS owners answer multiple phone calls every week from people who saw click bait, have that coin app that tells you every coin could be worth $10k, or simply found something unusual to them. (This past weekend, I was in my friend's shop and two different people came in asking about the gold value of their President dollars. )
Week? Try half a dozen calls every day. This is why I advocate against when members here enable "new collectors" actively trying to sell their change on eBay for $1400. It's damaging to the hobby, and it's also why I resent Ebay (which you typically take the opposite position). If they would only charge some type of listing fee, there wouldn't be a tsunami of parking lot "errors" that show up first on a google search.
Leave some room for price haggling. Remember - They will try to talk you down with their BS.
The last part of this post makes it very easy to press the skip button and avoid your table altogether. Guess you skipped the line that offered people skills. Probably couldn't haggle it down.
Your cheap shot comment at someone you have never dealt with nor met doesn’t phase me. Nor is really on topic.
I would say all of your comments are off topic, but ironically you're answering the question I posed with every single post.
@ProofCollection said:
Patience. They have to deal with the GDP. Generally Dumb Public all day long trying to sell them pocket change.
Yes patience (don’t let them bug you), maintaining game face a must.
Lowballers - I may ask them if they have one sell me at that and at times procured some good pickups. One guy said “your competition over there has one for less” trying haggle me down on a nice slabbed SLQ. I rejected his low ball offer, went over to that dealers table and looked at that coin - it was an obvious inferior piece vs mine.
For the GDP I have cheap junk box raw material mostly raw collector coins in 2x2. Sales of that help pay show expenses.
I applaud your effort to provide coins for everyone at your table. In fact, most of my greatest "cherrypicks" came from the junk boxes of GDD although it's getting harder to do these days. In January I scored one of the common 1788 Machin's Mills Copper with a planchet flaw (VG+ to F) in the dollar box. I cannot wait to see what's next.
Apparently disdain for the customers is one of his angles...
I don't know him, but I agree with him that THE PUBLIC in general (not numismatists or many CRH) can be classified as extremely dumb when it comes to coins. That does not mean we should have distain for them although I imagine it can be very annoying when John Q walks into your shop with a circulated "rare" 1940 Lincoln cent to sell because he saw one listed for 2K on Ebay!
Everyone is ignorant about most things outside their area of specialty. Dealing with the public requires patience. I spent 2 hours with a guy with a stamp collection on Saturday trying to explain the reality of what he had even though I really didn't want to buy it. I ended up buying some of it but begged him to shop it around because he was still "skeptical".
I also recently spent about a dozen hours over THREE YEARS with a guy helping him organize a large stamp estate. I was unpaid and only promised the opportunity to be one of three offers. In the end, I ended up being the only offer and bought the whole storage unit, but it could have turned out differently.
LCS owners answer multiple phone calls every week from people who saw click bait, have that coin app that tells you every coin could be worth $10k, or simply found something unusual to them. (This past weekend, I was in my friend's shop and two different people came in asking about the gold value of their President dollars. )
But if you look at his prior posts with the "looky Lous" and the "tire kickers", his disdain extends beyond simply the ignorance of non-collectors.
Someone willing to learn your collecting tastes/goals, etc, and have the honesty and integrity to say “I don’t think this one is for you’ or in the alternative, make every effort to make something available to you if in your tastes/goals, etc
It's pretty simple. The qualities that make a good dealer are the same qualities that anyone in any business should try to achieve.
Many mentioned them above, but I'm looking at someone who knows his / her material, and is honest with clients / customers. Also someone who treats people respectfully. Respect is a two way street. And that includes timely returning phone calls / e-mails.
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Leave some room for price haggling. Remember - They will try to talk you down with their BS.
The last part of this post makes it very easy to press the skip button and avoid your table altogether. Guess you skipped the line that offered people skills. Probably couldn't haggle it down.
People Skills? If they take a cheap shot at me or try rip me what does it matter lol? Frankly when their BS starts it’s time for them to leave.
The same boiling water that softens the potato will harden the egg.
@ProofCollection said:
Patience. They have to deal with the GDP. Generally Dumb Public all day long trying to sell them pocket change.
Yes patience (don’t let them bug you), maintaining game face a must.
Lowballers - I may ask them if they have one sell me at that and at times procured some good pickups. One guy said “your competition over there has one for less” trying haggle me down on a nice slabbed SLQ. I rejected his low ball offer, went over to that dealers table and looked at that coin - it was an obvious inferior piece vs mine.
For the GDP I have cheap junk box raw material mostly raw collector coins in 2x2. Sales of that help pay show expenses.
I applaud your effort to provide coins for everyone at your table. In fact, most of my greatest "cherrypicks" came from the junk boxes of GDD although it's getting harder to do these days. In January I scored one of the common 1788 Machin's Mills Copper with a planchet flaw (VG+ to F) in the dollar box. I cannot wait to see what's next.
Apparently disdain for the customers is one of his angles...
I don't know him, but I agree with him that THE PUBLIC in general (not numismatists or many CRH) can be classified as extremely dumb when it comes to coins. That does not mean we should have distain for them although I imagine it can be very annoying when John Q walks into your shop with a circulated "rare" 1940 Lincoln cent to sell because he saw one listed for 2K on Ebay!
Everyone is ignorant about most things outside their area of specialty. Dealing with the public requires patience. I spent 2 hours with a guy with a stamp collection on Saturday trying to explain the reality of what he had even though I really didn't want to buy it. I ended up buying some of it but begged him to shop it around because he was still "skeptical".
I also recently spent about a dozen hours over THREE YEARS with a guy helping him organize a large stamp estate. I was unpaid and only promised the opportunity to be one of three offers. In the end, I ended up being the only offer and bought the whole storage unit, but it could have turned out differently.
LCS owners answer multiple phone calls every week from people who saw click bait, have that coin app that tells you every coin could be worth $10k, or simply found something unusual to them. (This past weekend, I was in my friend's shop and two different people came in asking about the gold value of their President dollars. )
But if you look at his prior posts with the "looky Lous" and the "tire kickers", his disdain extends beyond simply the ignorance of non-collectors.
@Catbert said:
I think he sees customers as marks - a target for exploitation due to their gullibility, wealth, or naivety. He likes to brag about this approach via football analogies, no matter how inane.
@Catbert said:
I think he sees customers as marks - a target for exploitation due to their gullibility, wealth, or naivety. He likes to brag about this approach via football analogies, no matter how inane.
Off topic.
I bet @MFeld is tossing and turning in his sleep at having to deal with the indignity of living in a world where YOU can unironically call somebody else's post off topic. You are the absolute Holy Roman Emperor of off topic posts.
Also...I don't see you disputing the accuracy of Carbert's post...
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@Catbert said:
I think he sees customers as marks - a target for exploitation due to their gullibility, wealth, or naivety. He likes to brag about this approach via football analogies, no matter how inane.
Off topic.
I bet @MFeld is tossing and turning in his sleep at having to deal with the indignity of living in a world where YOU can unironically call somebody else's post off topic. You are the absolute Holy Roman Emperor of off topic posts.
@Cougar1978 said:
I don’t let the boo birds here bug me. What shows have u setup up at btw?
I've told you a dozen times that I'm not a dealer. Why are you incapable of understanding that most people here are NOT dealers and you randomly giving (bad) unsolicited dealer advice to collectors is absurd?
A dealer that takes the time to listen and to make corrections with respect and decency. Teaching moments are always great! Even the most seasoned collectors need to be schooled
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I have a few dealers who's websites I scour to find coins I like.
When I ask hard questions like is that a scratch or will it cross so on and so on honest answers will win a customer every time.
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@Catbert said:
I think he sees customers as marks - a target for exploitation due to their gullibility, wealth, or naivety. He likes to brag about this approach via football analogies, no matter how inane.
This is a lot more prevalent with non-US coinage in my experience. Price discovery is a lot more limited and it's not unusual to see ask prices really inflated versus any realistic market value, meaning the buyer isn't hopelessly buried in the coin the minute they buy it. I see some legitimate room for a difference of opinion on "market price", but not in the ask prices I'm referencing. It's also more prevalent on eBay, but I've seen or heard it elsewhere too.
Some good comments, and some where people show their colors.
Probably in order;
Honest
Straight-forward
Personable
Knowledgeable
Integrity
Communicates well
Business is about building relationships. Whether that be coins or cars or commercial contracting (my business for years). It's not always about the almighty dollar or the final penny of profit (although I am keenly aware of the fact that businesses are run "for-profit" or they won't be in business for long).
If you are honest and straight-forward, and personable enough where I can like dealing (or even be friends) with you, and then have knowledge to back up your business operation and show integrity in how you deal with ALL of your customers, AND you communicate well ... I either already am, or want to be a customer of yours.
I'll buy the right coin at the right price from almost anyone, but that doesn't make me feel like I WANT to do business with them.
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@Cougar1978 said:
I don’t let the boo birds here bug me. What shows have u setup up at btw?
I've told you a dozen times that I'm not a dealer. Why are you incapable of understanding that most people here are NOT dealers and you randomly giving (bad) unsolicited dealer advice to collectors is absurd?
There is a TON of bad advise given on this forum. Why single out one poster?
After 50 years walking bourse floors, I've had dealers yell at me as I walked by like they were some kind of Hooker!
I 've had dealers berate me because I ask for their best price. Intimidation does not open my wallet.
buying a coins is a want not a need.
I 've had dealers get angry and loud when I pointed out a defect during a negotiation
A dealer baited and switched and inferior grade coin on me on a mail order . thinking I was just a Rube.
Another well known dealer at the time.
I've had a dealer once refuse to show me a coin as he was to busy playing Checkers with his partner.
not sure why he was paying for a bourse table?
Three or four times I have had dealers get angry at me when I offered them coins trying to intimidate me.
I guess to get a better deal. I went on and sold them quickly to nicer more cordial dealers.
I've had dealer make a deal and as I was getting my money out a guy at the table said he would pay more .
I was shocked . the dealer went back on his word wow! The Guy he sold it to is now a very big dealer.
later I guess he did not like the coin because later he caught me and tried to sell me the same coin I walked away.
I ve seen a very Major dealer hold a chair sitting at the the PCGS submittal table while others dealer cut the long wait line and walk up and give their coins to him to submit. a few Folks waiting in line noticed and were not happy. he was a shill for them.
There was a women dealer screaming at me because she confused me with someone else who she had a problem with.
I was like who is this women I never met before. I got out of her way.
There were some gentlemen honest dealers out there too
I ve seen a very Major dealer hold a chair sitting at the the PCGS submittal table while others dealer cut the long wait line and walk up and give their coins to him to submit. a few Folks waiting in line noticed and were not happy. he was a shill for them.
This is something that really falls on PCGS to rectify. To become an authorized dealers, you have to go through a 3 month process and background check and sign a bunch of agreements and not everyone even is approved. The discount on grading fees is marginal, and most of us spend no less than $1000/month on grading fees, with many spending $10,000 month on grading fees or more.
At a show, we have a submission thats all filled out that just need to be dropped off, but lately PCGS has not had an AD drop-off like they've had in the past. It's a real issue if we have to wait an hour in the line with the public while we have customers at our table waiting too look at coins, and don't feel comfortable being away from the table for that long considering how much value is there. They should always have one employee that can take AD submissions off to the side, grading is an integral pert of the business and you'd think they'd want to enable a high volume dealer to be able to submit efficiently.
I’m at coin shows to buy nice coins, but I’m also there to teach my daughters to love the hobby.
Went to Baltimore on Friday and purchased 4 great coins for my type set from Dave Kahn. I got to catch up with him some after a few years of slow goings in my coin collecting, and I mentioned that one of my daughters was getting into the hobby and starting with Roosevelt dimes and that I was going to bring her back the next day to hunt for some…….
Stopped by his table the next day and he had a 1962 proof in an NGC 69 holder waiting for her. This instantly became her new favorite coin, and she has told about 72 different people about it in the 2 weeks since it happened.
Dave doesn’t really deal in Roosevelt dimes at all, and I’m sure he actually had to put forth some effort to dig that coin up. It’s a $30ish coin, but basically a Brasher Doubloon to my daughter right now. The gesture sure meant a lot to me, and won’t soon be forgotten. Just pure class.
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@MEJ7070 said:
I’d add “willingness to engage with my kids”.
I’m at coin shows to buy nice coins, but I’m also there to teach my daughters to love the hobby.
Went to Baltimore on Friday and purchased 4 great coins for my type set from Dave Kahn. I got to catch up with him some after a few years of slow goings in my coin collecting, and I mentioned that one of my daughters was getting into the hobby and starting with Roosevelt dimes and that I was going to bring her back the next day to hunt for some…….
Stopped by his table the next day and he had a 1962 proof in an NGC 69 holder waiting for her. This instantly became her new favorite coin, and she has told about 72 different people about it in the 2 weeks since it happened.
Dave doesn’t really deal in Roosevelt dimes at all, and I’m sure he actually had to put forth some effort to dig that coin up. It’s a $30ish coin, but basically a Brasher Doubloon to my daughter right now. The gesture sure meant a lot to me, and won’t soon be forgotten. Just pure class.
Great story about a great dealer. And welcome to the forum! Great first post too!
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I don't know him, but I agree with him that THE PUBLIC in general (not numismatists or many CRH) can be classified as extremely dumb when it comes to coins. That does not mean we should have distain for them although I imagine it can be very annoying when John Q walks into your shop with a circulated "rare" 1940 Lincoln cent to sell because he saw one listed for 2K on Ebay!
As a Dealer, don't cut your own fingers handling the knife by the sharp end just so you can beat your customer with the handle.
Everyone is ignorant about most things outside their area of specialty. Dealing with the public requires patience. I spent 2 hours with a guy with a stamp collection on Saturday trying to explain the reality of what he had even though I really didn't want to buy it. I ended up buying some of it but begged him to shop it around because he was still "skeptical".
I also recently spent about a dozen hours over THREE YEARS with a guy helping him organize a large stamp estate. I was unpaid and only promised the opportunity to be one of three offers. In the end, I ended up being the only offer and bought the whole storage unit, but it could have turned out differently.
LCS owners answer multiple phone calls every week from people who saw click bait, have that coin app that tells you every coin could be worth $10k, or simply found something unusual to them. (This past weekend, I was in my friend's shop and two different people came in asking about the gold value of their President dollars. )
But if you look at his prior posts with the "looky Lous" and the "tire kickers", his disdain extends beyond simply the ignorance of non-collectors.
I think he sees customers as marks - a target for exploitation due to their gullibility, wealth, or naivety. He likes to brag about this approach via football analogies, no matter how inane.
"Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
1) Does the dealer have coins with the eye appeal I like? Does the dealer price these coins fairly according to my standards?
That is about it.
The last part of this post makes it very easy to press the skip button and avoid your table altogether. Guess you skipped the line that offered people skills. Probably couldn't haggle it down.
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No problem when their BS starts its time for them to leave. Goodbye.
Week? Try half a dozen calls every day. This is why I advocate against when members here enable "new collectors" actively trying to sell their change on eBay for $1400. It's damaging to the hobby, and it's also why I resent Ebay (which you typically take the opposite position). If they would only charge some type of listing fee, there wouldn't be a tsunami of parking lot "errors" that show up first on a google search.
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I would say all of your comments are off topic, but ironically you're answering the question I posed with every single post.
Just... not implicitly.
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Sounds like you are a very special dealer.
Someone willing to learn your collecting tastes/goals, etc, and have the honesty and integrity to say “I don’t think this one is for you’ or in the alternative, make every effort to make something available to you if in your tastes/goals, etc
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It's pretty simple. The qualities that make a good dealer are the same qualities that anyone in any business should try to achieve.
Many mentioned them above, but I'm looking at someone who knows his / her material, and is honest with clients / customers. Also someone who treats people respectfully. Respect is a two way street. And that includes timely returning phone calls / e-mails.
"Seu cabra da peste,
"Sou Mangueira......."
@Cougar1978
Why the LOL?
What do you know about this topic that all the others here don't?
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The same boiling water that softens the potato will harden the egg.
He is having a lot of fun with his two ebay stores,
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I think most dealers have similar stories.
Off topic.
Absolutely - it’s one of the last bastions of free enterprise. One can’t let them bug you. Have fun, work your angle, make money.
I bet @MFeld is tossing and turning in his sleep at having to deal with the indignity of living in a world where YOU can unironically call somebody else's post off topic. You are the absolute Holy Roman Emperor of off topic posts.
Also...I don't see you disputing the accuracy of Carbert's post...
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I don’t let the boo birds here bug me. What shows have u setup up at btw?
I've told you a dozen times that I'm not a dealer. Why are you incapable of understanding that most people here are NOT dealers and you randomly giving (bad) unsolicited dealer advice to collectors is absurd?
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Go find a hobby lol.
A dealer that takes the time to listen and to make corrections with respect and decency. Teaching moments are always great! Even the most seasoned collectors need to be schooled
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I have a few dealers who's websites I scour to find coins I like.
When I ask hard questions like is that a scratch or will it cross so on and so on honest answers will win a customer every time.
Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
Successful BST transactions with: Namvet Justindan Mattniss RWW olah_in_MA
Dantheman984 Toyz4geo SurfinxHI greencopper RWW bigjpst bretsan MWallace logger7
This is a lot more prevalent with non-US coinage in my experience. Price discovery is a lot more limited and it's not unusual to see ask prices really inflated versus any realistic market value, meaning the buyer isn't hopelessly buried in the coin the minute they buy it. I see some legitimate room for a difference of opinion on "market price", but not in the ask prices I'm referencing. It's also more prevalent on eBay, but I've seen or heard it elsewhere too.
Some good comments, and some where people show their colors.
Probably in order;
Honest
Straight-forward
Personable
Knowledgeable
Integrity
Communicates well
Business is about building relationships. Whether that be coins or cars or commercial contracting (my business for years). It's not always about the almighty dollar or the final penny of profit (although I am keenly aware of the fact that businesses are run "for-profit" or they won't be in business for long).
If you are honest and straight-forward, and personable enough where I can like dealing (or even be friends) with you, and then have knowledge to back up your business operation and show integrity in how you deal with ALL of your customers, AND you communicate well ... I either already am, or want to be a customer of yours.
I'll buy the right coin at the right price from almost anyone, but that doesn't make me feel like I WANT to do business with them.
“We are only their care-takers,” he posed, “if we take good care of them, then centuries from now they may still be here … ”
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There is a TON of bad advise given on this forum. Why single out one poster?
Your entire MO seems to bash Cougar. In multiple threads. Over and over.
Don’t you have any numismatic commentary to offer?
HOW NOT ACT AS A DEALER.
After 50 years walking bourse floors, I've had dealers yell at me as I walked by like they were some kind of Hooker!
I 've had dealers berate me because I ask for their best price. Intimidation does not open my wallet.
buying a coins is a want not a need.
I 've had dealers get angry and loud when I pointed out a defect during a negotiation
A dealer baited and switched and inferior grade coin on me on a mail order . thinking I was just a Rube.
Another well known dealer at the time.
I've had a dealer once refuse to show me a coin as he was to busy playing Checkers with his partner.
not sure why he was paying for a bourse table?
Three or four times I have had dealers get angry at me when I offered them coins trying to intimidate me.
I guess to get a better deal. I went on and sold them quickly to nicer more cordial dealers.
I've had dealer make a deal and as I was getting my money out a guy at the table said he would pay more .
I was shocked . the dealer went back on his word wow! The Guy he sold it to is now a very big dealer.
later I guess he did not like the coin because later he caught me and tried to sell me the same coin I walked away.
I ve seen a very Major dealer hold a chair sitting at the the PCGS submittal table while others dealer cut the long wait line and walk up and give their coins to him to submit. a few Folks waiting in line noticed and were not happy. he was a shill for them.
There was a women dealer screaming at me because she confused me with someone else who she had a problem with.
I was like who is this women I never met before. I got out of her way.
There were some gentlemen honest dealers out there too
Nice name drop, I just picked up an old One Sen. I am always curious who here sells on eBay, and their seller name.
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This is something that really falls on PCGS to rectify. To become an authorized dealers, you have to go through a 3 month process and background check and sign a bunch of agreements and not everyone even is approved. The discount on grading fees is marginal, and most of us spend no less than $1000/month on grading fees, with many spending $10,000 month on grading fees or more.
At a show, we have a submission thats all filled out that just need to be dropped off, but lately PCGS has not had an AD drop-off like they've had in the past. It's a real issue if we have to wait an hour in the line with the public while we have customers at our table waiting too look at coins, and don't feel comfortable being away from the table for that long considering how much value is there. They should always have one employee that can take AD submissions off to the side, grading is an integral pert of the business and you'd think they'd want to enable a high volume dealer to be able to submit efficiently.
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Thanks!
I’d add “willingness to engage with my kids”.
I’m at coin shows to buy nice coins, but I’m also there to teach my daughters to love the hobby.
Went to Baltimore on Friday and purchased 4 great coins for my type set from Dave Kahn. I got to catch up with him some after a few years of slow goings in my coin collecting, and I mentioned that one of my daughters was getting into the hobby and starting with Roosevelt dimes and that I was going to bring her back the next day to hunt for some…….
Stopped by his table the next day and he had a 1962 proof in an NGC 69 holder waiting for her. This instantly became her new favorite coin, and she has told about 72 different people about it in the 2 weeks since it happened.
Dave doesn’t really deal in Roosevelt dimes at all, and I’m sure he actually had to put forth some effort to dig that coin up. It’s a $30ish coin, but basically a Brasher Doubloon to my daughter right now. The gesture sure meant a lot to me, and won’t soon be forgotten. Just pure class.
Prior career and business experience in other fields; buying and selling collectibles may be an honest option to make a living for someone who had a career in the real world, who has good support systems as a service to the large community.
Great story about a great dealer. And welcome to the forum! Great first post too!
Add this to the benefits of a physical coin show.
I like a tidy organized shop. When I walk in to a pig pen, I can almost hear the words before I ask - "I have one of those around here somewhere".
WS