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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BustDMs said:


    .....
    My latest.

    Excellent, Potosi gold can be tough to come by, that's a nice group of coins.

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wonderful strike @Abuelo

  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Posts: 1,835 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cladiator said:
    Newest addition to my 1776 set.

    Very nice, I had pursued that one

  • scubafuelscubafuel Posts: 1,937 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marmac beautiful compilation! Hard to beat those designs.

  • marmacmarmac Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭

    @scubafuel thanks, a couple of them probably even look familiar :)

  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Fantastic addition

  • realeswatcherrealeswatcher Posts: 469 ✭✭✭✭

    @Abuelo, interesting piece, nicely struck/preserved. I do believe that's a well-executed example of one of the numerous contemporary counterfeits of this series, for which 1836 is definitely the most frequently-targeted date. For those familiar with these, some of these CCs of course come really crude with blatantly non-regal design elements. This one is more faithful than usual, but a close comparison will show some differences. Here's yours compared to a definitively "regal" 1836 (if you compare the surrounding years, that is the standard "look" - eagle punch, etc.)... it should be apparent:

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @realeswatcher it is very likely that you are right. In my experience coppers were heavily counterfeit, some well, others not even close and grotesque.

    You can see these 2 eagles


    Just to show another example to your point (yet the other coin here is another 1/8 instead of a 1/4 real) but the style is different as you point out. Yet many of these contemporary counterfeits did circulate heavily (as this example) so is difficult in many cases to tell for sure. And as these coins were minted in large numbers, likely many varieties exist. That said, I have the suspicion that you may be right.

  • EddiEddi Posts: 554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @marmac said:
    My dark side pursuits started off as a somewhat peripheral endeavor, but quickly became enamored with South/North Peru and early Peru Royalist/ Republic period. A medley of a few examples I’ve got decent pictures of.

    What an interesting collection of early Peruvian Republican coins. Congratulations!

    Among others, the last 8 Reales struck in 1824 under Spanish rule, the first 8 republican 8 reales (peso de San Martin, also called Peso Peru Libre), a very nice example of the scarce 1839 1/4 real de Arequipa (only year of issue), and notably, a North Peru 2 reales (also very scarce). Nice representative selection.

  • marmacmarmac Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭

    @Eddi thank you for the compliment. The period of back and forth control between Royalists and Republic forces along with the Peru-Bolivia Federation period I've found to be a really fascinating period and have tried to focus on those segments in history with my Peruvian efforts. I've managed to acquire a few other critical examples from these periods, though unfortunately don't have any good pictures of the pieces at present time.

  • @7Jaguars said:
    1891 Dominican Republic 5 Franco’s

    Just from auction and raw.

    It appears to be softly struck esp on obverse with subdued lustre but I don’t see much wear. What do you all think?
    Hard to show on iPhone pictures.




    Very nice and the toning is beautiful! Kraft envelope style of tone? I like it! I prefer original toning coins -- like your crown here!

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  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes me as well and I agree with your comment.

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This toning reminds me of a european collection of high grade crowns that was sold by WAG over a number of different sessions in 2021. A lot of them exhibited similar type toning that looked great at photos, but had a bit of a unnatural shine in-hand. The few examples from that collection I ended-up acquiring all bodybagged. I hope that's not the case here, but the white spots in the toning and the overall look triggered some memories. I hope i'm wrong as it appears to be a nice example.

    Here are a few examples from the collection:









  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    This toning reminds me of a european collection of high grade crowns that was sold by WAG over a number of different sessions in 2021. A lot of them exhibited similar type toning that looked great at photos, but had a bit of a unnatural shine in-hand. The few examples from that collection I ended-up acquiring all bodybagged. I hope that's not the case here, but the white spots in the toning and the overall look triggered some memories. I hope i'm wrong as it appears to be a nice example.

    In my Experience that brownish with bluish look is almost immediately bodybagged. It’s my understanding that it means it was exposed to a higher than normal level of sulfuric gas. Whether that’s comes from an envelope de-gassing/acidifying or something else, it doesn’t matter.

    I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I bought this one because it is a high grade mess! Fractures, breaks and mistakes!


    I'm BACK!!! Used to be Billet7 on the old forum.

  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoKopeiki said:
    This toning reminds me of a european collection of high grade crowns that was sold by WAG over a number of different sessions in 2021. A lot of them exhibited similar type toning that looked great at photos, but had a bit of a unnatural shine in-hand. The few examples from that collection I ended-up acquiring all bodybagged. I hope that's not the case here, but the white spots in the toning and the overall look triggered some memories. I hope i'm wrong as it appears to be a nice example.

    Here are a few examples from the collection:










    Interesting as it is quite similar. Which service did you send to?

    Love that Milled British (1830-1960)
    Well, just Love coins, period.
  • TwoKopeikiTwoKopeiki Posts: 9,848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @7Jaguars said:

    @TwoKopeiki said:

    Interesting as it is quite similar. Which service did you send to?

    Both services.

  • AbueloAbuelo Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @pruebas said:

    @bidask said:

    @scubafuel said:
    I posted these in the gold thread but figured I’d add them here as well.


    I used to own those.

    They are great coins .

    I also used to own the Norweb PL 65 Mexican 8 escudos Pruebas showed .

    Another fantastic coin

    They all came from the same collection .

    https://www.biddr.com/auctions/heritage/browse?a=660&l=690278

    I still own the Garrett Mexican 4 escudos in 65 .

    No longer!

    I (finally!) purchased the Garrett 4E from @bidask to join the Norweb 8E in my type set.
    Here they both are side-by-side. (The actual coins are much nicer than the photos.)




    No words.

  • BoosibriBoosibri Posts: 12,395 ✭✭✭✭✭
  • ashelandasheland Posts: 23,714 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Awesome coins, everybody!

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