@Steven59 said: Could easily go 0-8. Cleveland "experts" are saying may be another 3 win season - but with the NFL referees and all the upsets that happen it could be a 5 win season.
It's no secret who the opponents are, it's only the order that gets decided after the draft. Understanding that much always puzzles me about the way a team like Cleveland approaches the draft and any other signings they might make. Can the honestly think they can compete this seasons?? Have a winning record?? Have an actual chance at making the playoffs??
The answer to all the above is a resounding no.
That's why the annual attempt to find the franchise QB is such an act of futility and why the team's approach is always doomed to failure. It makes me think of Einstein's definition of insanity --- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Maybe if the Browns front office did it differently and drafted the best available athlete and focused on improving the team instead of wasting picks on QB's they'd improve.
I'm so tired of the team being less than mediocre, but as long as the NFL shares revenue and makes money for the teams that SUCK it'll never change.
"Maybe if the Browns front office did it differently and drafted the best available athlete and focused on improving the team instead of wasting picks on QB's they'd improve."
They have to draft QB's - no league QB that is any good doesn't want to come here!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
They just signed two "game managers" during the off-season. That's all they really need barring injury to get them through the season.
My point is simple: Flacco and Picket can accomplish what the past 20+ years of reaching for the savior have accomplished. Gabriel and Sanders may end up being the solution but I wouldn't count on that happening. Better to have used those two picks to improve the team where players were available to do that, especially with offensive lineman. Any fan of the Browns who has pie in the sky fantasies of a 5 win team is delusional. The team may not even be watchable this season. I know my excitement level is at rock bottom. I can't even remember the name of their first round draft pick!!
Great for Purdy for sure getting paid but the 49ers just buried themselves with that deal. Hes not even close to a top 10 QB and now hes the 7th highest paid. Other players should be reaching out to his agent lol
@Basebal21 said:
Great for Purdy for sure getting paid but the 49ers just buried themselves with that deal. Hes not even close to a top 10 QB and now hes the 7th highest paid. Other players should be reaching out to his agent lol
Two quarterbacks have had a QBR of 67 or higher each of the last three seasons. Josh Allen is one. The other...
That's great for Purdy but the 49'ers are a shell of their former selves, that D is getting old and McCaffrey is got too many miles on him, also all their WR's are gone lol
SF is just doing the same thing that KC has done this offseason and the what Buffalo did a year ago at this time, getting younger & faster on both sides of the ball while trying to clear up some cap space.
Opinions on Purdy will vary, as will asking if he's really worth getting paid that much money but this is the new norm in the NFL for top 15 starting QBs. His money doesn't kick in until 2026 and by then most of their other higher salaried players are probably going to be off the roster.
Trent Williams will be 37 by the time this season starts. its no secret that SF wants to move Brandon Aiyuk and teams are probably waiting to see how his knee holds up after surgery before giving up picks for him. McCaffrey isn't making huge money and they could either trade or outright release him without it hurting their cap going forward, if they decide to go that route.
4 of their top 5 picks were on the D line which is the one positional group on defense where younger & faster is always better. The only WR that won't be back from last year's team is Deebo and most of the opinions here thought he was washed up to begin with so no big loss there, right? It just means that Jennings & Pearsall both move up their targets depth chart.
The 49ers may not be considered one of the top SB contenders for 2025 but they've got a great HC and a great GM so they're likely to still be competing for the NFCW as long as injuries don't derail their season like they did in 2024.
@Basebal21 said:
Great for Purdy for sure getting paid but the 49ers just buried themselves with that deal. Hes not even close to a top 10 QB and now hes the 7th highest paid. Other players should be reaching out to his agent lol
Two quarterbacks have had a QBR of 67 or higher each of the last three seasons. Josh Allen is one. The other...
QBR is a bad stat. Theres been threads about it before as well.
The simple fact is Purdy was average at best last year and has one really good year when he had video game levels of talent around him on the offense.
As pointed out the band is breaking up. Guys are getting older, traded, and hurt. Hes an average QB at best that is now being paid like hes elite.
Everyone, including me, freaked out at the amount of money Cleveland paid Watson at the time of his signing but after some time I changed what I thought. He was the highest paid guy for about a week!! Now he sits at number 12 and when his contract is up he'll probably be around 15. Purdy may/may not deserve what he's being paid but he won't be at the top for long.
These ever escalating salaries have to slow or stop eventually.
@Maywood said:
Everyone, including me, freaked out at the amount of money Cleveland paid Watson at the time of his signing but after some time I changed what I thought. He was the highest paid guy for about a week!! Now he sits at number 12 and when his contract is up he'll probably be around 15. Purdy may/may not deserve what he's being paid but he won't be at the top for long.
These ever escalating salaries have to slow or stop eventually.
But they could have signed Watson to the league minimum and still over paid lol
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She even looks evil!
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@craig44 said: instead of changing rules, figure out how to stop it. just like mlb and the shift.
Except that MLB changed the rules a couple seasons ago to prevent the shift. Two infielders on either side of 2nd base, all four infielders on the infield dirt and no repositioning of the best defenders to a specific side of the field is now the rule of law in MLB.
Bye, bye to the shift. Don't you guys follow MLB??
Maybe now they'll teach batters how to hit behind runners and to the opposite field again. Bring back the hit-and-run!!!
If you need someone pushing your ass to the Land of 6...Call a proctologist...
Ball Up and Play Real Football...
I can agree with this part of it too
But what's good for one team should be good for the other, why don't other teams do this? They are probably worried about injury, the Eagles said FU this is what we are going to do and you can't stop us
@Maywood said: @craig44 said: instead of changing rules, figure out how to stop it. just like mlb and the shift.
Except that MLB changed the rules a couple seasons ago to prevent the shift. Two infielders on either side of 2nd base, all four infielders on the infield dirt and no repositioning of the best defenders to a specific side of the field is now the rule of law in MLB.
Bye, bye to the shift. Don't you guys follow MLB??
Maybe now they'll teach batters how to hit behind runners and to the opposite field again. Bring back the hit-and-run!!!
ummm, that is what I meant. I had my little mini rant about instead of outlawing it, learn to stop it. I guess I was trying to contrast the NFL decision with the MLB one.
If you need someone pushing your ass to the Land of 6...Call a proctologist...
Ball Up and Play Real Football...
I can agree with this part of it too
But what's good for one team should be good for the other, why don't other teams do this? They are probably worried about injury, the Eagles said FU this is what we are going to do and you can't stop us
hey ya perkdog...
Lemme think on how I would like to answer your question without Non Old School thoughts & theory's...
If you need someone pushing your ass to the Land of 6...Call a proctologist...
Ball Up and Play Real Football...
I can agree with this part of it too
But what's good for one team should be good for the other, why don't other teams do this? They are probably worried about injury, the Eagles said FU this is what we are going to do and you can't stop us
hey ya perkdog...
Lemme think on how I would like to answer your question without Non Old School thoughts & theory's...
Haha Buddy I'm old school too but it's a different game now brother 💪🍻
If you need someone pushing your ass to the Land of 6...Call a proctologist...
Ball Up and Play Real Football...
I can agree with this part of it too
But what's good for one team should be good for the other, why don't other teams do this? They are probably worried about injury, the Eagles said FU this is what we are going to do and you can't stop us
hey ya perkdog...
Lemme think on how I would like to answer your question without Non Old School thoughts & theory's...
Haha Buddy I'm old school too but it's a different game now brother 💪🍻
The Original Tush-Push...
If you look closely Tommy Kramer crossed the Plane with the help of Fullback Bill Brown...
If you need someone pushing your ass to the Land of 6...Call a proctologist...
Ball Up and Play Real Football...
I can agree with this part of it too
But what's good for one team should be good for the other, why don't other teams do this? They are probably worried about injury, the Eagles said FU this is what we are going to do and you can't stop us
hey ya perkdog...
Lemme think on how I would like to answer your question without Non Old School thoughts & theory's...
Haha Buddy I'm old school too but it's a different game now brother 💪🍻
The Original Tush-Push...
If you look closely Tommy Kramer crossed the Plane with the help of Fullback Bill Brown...
Old school NFL fans should be against the "tush push" since it used to be against the rules, and a penalty, to help the ball carrier. Now that the rules have changed, and even a retard knows when the Eagles are going to use the play, learn how to stop it. The current NFL is a little different than it used to be and I guess that starts with the Commissioner.
The only argument against the tush push is that defenders arent allowed to push each other. Either let everyone do it or no one. Id rather just see them let the defenders do it as well instead of making a big rule change
If the Tush push is such a cheat code why doesnt everyone do it? Why doesnt it work every time?
@Basebal21 said:
The only argument against the tush push is that defenders arent allowed to push each other. Either let everyone do it or no one. Id rather just see them let the defenders do it as well instead of making a big rule change
If the Tush push is such a cheat code why doesnt everyone do it? Why doesnt it work every time?
There is a pretty good chance of your center or other lineman getting hurt under. a pile of heavy bodies pushing, not to mention a QB can get messed up as well.
Use at your own risk I guess, but imo your paying a RB to do that job so let him do his job.
It will all change once someone gets hurt bad, you watch
So……….. Is there a QB is this group of the 2024 draft that will be decent, let alone elite? I have to see it to believe it. Cam Ward? Meh. The rest of them. Hm………. Of course since I am a Duck, hoping for Dillon, but I just don’t see the quality overall as in the 2024 draft….. IMO anyone named Sanders sucks, big time……………...
@Basebal21 said:
The only argument against the tush push is that defenders arent allowed to push each other. Either let everyone do it or no one. Id rather just see them let the defenders do it as well instead of making a big rule change
If the Tush push is such a cheat code why doesnt everyone do it? Why doesnt it work every time?
There is a pretty good chance of your center or other lineman getting hurt under. a pile of heavy bodies pushing, not to mention a QB can get messed up as well.
Use at your own risk I guess, but imo your paying a RB to do that job so let him do his job.
It will all change once someone gets hurt bad, you watch
Linemen can get rolled up or hurt on any play. Its not really any different than an inside run.
@Desert Moon said:
So……….. Is there a QB is this group of the 2024 draft that will be decent, let alone elite? I have to see it to believe it. Cam Ward? Meh. The rest of them. Hm………. Of course since I am a Duck, hoping for Dillon, but I just don’t see the quality overall as in the 2024 draft….. IMO anyone named Sanders sucks, big time……………...
Ward and Dart are probably it. Ewers could but the injury history is really bad other than that its a bad draft for QBs
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@Steven59 said: Could easily go 0-8. Cleveland "experts" are saying may be another 3 win season - but with the NFL referees and all the upsets that happen it could be a 5 win season.
It's no secret who the opponents are, it's only the order that gets decided after the draft. Understanding that much always puzzles me about the way a team like Cleveland approaches the draft and any other signings they might make. Can the honestly think they can compete this seasons?? Have a winning record?? Have an actual chance at making the playoffs??
The answer to all the above is a resounding no.
That's why the annual attempt to find the franchise QB is such an act of futility and why the team's approach is always doomed to failure. It makes me think of Einstein's definition of insanity --- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Maybe if the Browns front office did it differently and drafted the best available athlete and focused on improving the team instead of wasting picks on QB's they'd improve.
I'm so tired of the team being less than mediocre, but as long as the NFL shares revenue and makes money for the teams that SUCK it'll never change.
"Maybe if the Browns front office did it differently and drafted the best available athlete and focused on improving the team instead of wasting picks on QB's they'd improve."
They have to draft QB's - no league QB that is any good doesn't want to come here!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Or Sanders could be a stud and the Browns win 9 games
They just signed two "game managers" during the off-season. That's all they really need barring injury to get them through the season.
My point is simple: Flacco and Picket can accomplish what the past 20+ years of reaching for the savior have accomplished. Gabriel and Sanders may end up being the solution but I wouldn't count on that happening. Better to have used those two picks to improve the team where players were available to do that, especially with offensive lineman. Any fan of the Browns who has pie in the sky fantasies of a 5 win team is delusional. The team may not even be watchable this season. I know my excitement level is at rock bottom. I can't even remember the name of their first round draft pick!!
Insane contract the 49ers gave Purdy
So Purdy will be getting a pay raise of roughly 50+M a season? Yeah, you could say he had a pretty good day. 😉
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Great for Purdy for sure getting paid but the 49ers just buried themselves with that deal. Hes not even close to a top 10 QB and now hes the 7th highest paid. Other players should be reaching out to his agent lol
Two quarterbacks have had a QBR of 67 or higher each of the last three seasons. Josh Allen is one. The other...
does this mean he can finally move out of his parents basement?
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
That's great for Purdy but the 49'ers are a shell of their former selves, that D is getting old and McCaffrey is got too many miles on him, also all their WR's are gone lol
SF is just doing the same thing that KC has done this offseason and the what Buffalo did a year ago at this time, getting younger & faster on both sides of the ball while trying to clear up some cap space.
Opinions on Purdy will vary, as will asking if he's really worth getting paid that much money but this is the new norm in the NFL for top 15 starting QBs. His money doesn't kick in until 2026 and by then most of their other higher salaried players are probably going to be off the roster.
Trent Williams will be 37 by the time this season starts. its no secret that SF wants to move Brandon Aiyuk and teams are probably waiting to see how his knee holds up after surgery before giving up picks for him. McCaffrey isn't making huge money and they could either trade or outright release him without it hurting their cap going forward, if they decide to go that route.
4 of their top 5 picks were on the D line which is the one positional group on defense where younger & faster is always better. The only WR that won't be back from last year's team is Deebo and most of the opinions here thought he was washed up to begin with so no big loss there, right? It just means that Jennings & Pearsall both move up their targets depth chart.
The 49ers may not be considered one of the top SB contenders for 2025 but they've got a great HC and a great GM so they're likely to still be competing for the NFCW as long as injuries don't derail their season like they did in 2024.
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QBR is a bad stat. Theres been threads about it before as well.
The simple fact is Purdy was average at best last year and has one really good year when he had video game levels of talent around him on the offense.
As pointed out the band is breaking up. Guys are getting older, traded, and hurt. Hes an average QB at best that is now being paid like hes elite.
Everyone, including me, freaked out at the amount of money Cleveland paid Watson at the time of his signing but after some time I changed what I thought. He was the highest paid guy for about a week!!
Now he sits at number 12 and when his contract is up he'll probably be around 15. Purdy may/may not deserve what he's being paid but he won't be at the top for long.
These ever escalating salaries have to slow or stop eventually.
How long before a professional athlete is signed to a one billion dollar contract?
Did not the Dodgers sign Otani to a $700 million dollar contract?
But they could have signed Watson to the league minimum and still over paid lol
Patriots OTA's start today. Lets get it fellas!!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Bill Belichick, 73, And Jordon Hudson, 24, Are Engaged: Report
“I think it’s ironic that a man who really controlled everything — and I mean everything — now is being controlled by some other person,” said Upton Bell, a former general manager of the New England Patriots, via the Athletic. “You can’t just point at the woman here and say, ‘She is being controlling.’ That only happens if you let yourself be controlled.”
She even looks evil!
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
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I am glad they did not "outlaw" the tush push. I hate when leagues change rules because certain plays/strategies cannot be stopped.
instead of changing rules, figure out how to stop it. just like mlb and the shift.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
@craig44 said: instead of changing rules, figure out how to stop it. just like mlb and the shift.
Except that MLB changed the rules a couple seasons ago to prevent the shift. Two infielders on either side of 2nd base, all four infielders on the infield dirt and no repositioning of the best defenders to a specific side of the field is now the rule of law in MLB.
Bye, bye to the shift. Don't you guys follow MLB??
Maybe now they'll teach batters how to hit behind runners and to the opposite field again. Bring back the hit-and-run!!!
Tush-Push Thoughts...
If you need someone pushing your ass to the Land of 6...Call a proctologist...
Ball Up and Play Real Football...
I can agree with this part of it too
But what's good for one team should be good for the other, why don't other teams do this? They are probably worried about injury, the Eagles said FU this is what we are going to do and you can't stop us
ummm, that is what I meant. I had my little mini rant about instead of outlawing it, learn to stop it. I guess I was trying to contrast the NFL decision with the MLB one.
I guess I worded it poorly.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
hey ya perkdog...
Lemme think on how I would like to answer your question without Non Old School thoughts & theory's...
Haha Buddy I'm old school too but it's a different game now brother 💪🍻
The Original Tush-Push...
If you look closely Tommy Kramer crossed the Plane with the help of Fullback Bill Brown...
That's some Old School Tudor...🔌🏈
From around 82-83-ish...📸
Later my brother...💬💬💬
Love it
Old school NFL fans should be against the "tush push" since it used to be against the rules, and a penalty, to help the ball carrier. Now that the rules have changed, and even a retard knows when the Eagles are going to use the play, learn how to stop it. The current NFL is a little different than it used to be and I guess that starts with the Commissioner.
They sort of did. 680 million of his 700 million is deferred for 10 years so theyre only paying him 2 million a year for the life of the contract
The only argument against the tush push is that defenders arent allowed to push each other. Either let everyone do it or no one. Id rather just see them let the defenders do it as well instead of making a big rule change
If the Tush push is such a cheat code why doesnt everyone do it? Why doesnt it work every time?
There is a pretty good chance of your center or other lineman getting hurt under. a pile of heavy bodies pushing, not to mention a QB can get messed up as well.
Use at your own risk I guess, but imo your paying a RB to do that job so let him do his job.
It will all change once someone gets hurt bad, you watch
this is all you need to know about the efficacy of the tush push
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
So……….. Is there a QB is this group of the 2024 draft that will be decent, let alone elite? I have to see it to believe it. Cam Ward? Meh. The rest of them. Hm………. Of course since I am a Duck, hoping for Dillon, but I just don’t see the quality overall as in the 2024 draft….. IMO anyone named Sanders sucks, big time……………...
Linemen can get rolled up or hurt on any play. Its not really any different than an inside run.
Ward and Dart are probably it. Ewers could but the injury history is really bad other than that its a bad draft for QBs
and people wonder why we've never had a 4k passer
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet